Weis is staying.
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whoever thought mediocrity would be so prosperous for an unworthy coach
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THIS IS THE BEST NEWS!!!! Thank you!!! Charlie is the man for the job, trust me!!!
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I support the players, not Charlie Weis. This will go down as the biggest public relations nightmare in the history of college football.
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It may not work out, but I think you're overstating that just a little.
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Another year of the dribble on Charlie's face. Michael Scott is running ND, and Dwight Schrute, and Andy Bernard are his #1 and #2.
Hahahahahaha! We'll be 7-5 next season, maybe 8-4.
Hahahahahaha! We'll be 7-5 next season, maybe 8-4.
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WOW! A lot of "sources" that are totally BS again! Is it the day before signing day yet lol! Great job ND...this is the best we are going to get for now guys move on!
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If we don't win 11 games next year, then he needs to go. 5 years is enough to build a program. I still call USC a loss because clearly we are light years from that team.
Saying that, I will support Weis now that the decision has apparently been made.
Saying that, I will support Weis now that the decision has apparently been made.
We better win 9-10 games next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously
If not...
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i like the decision to keep him for one more year. i wonder how this may affect the recruiting for '10 though. kids may not want to go to a school where the coach is on the hot seat. either way, im glad he is our coach for another year. last year we learned this year we built on our young team and next year we should be in the top 25 at minimum. possible bcs game if we play up to our potential. i think it will all depend on if clausen figures out he cant just throw the ball up to anyone in triple coverage. our line should improve and we will have alot of experienced youth on the field who have gone through a full year. not to mention i wanna see shaq, floyd, and golden lined up with one of our other guys in the slot. i am sad about how this season turned out but call me an asshole if you want (ive been called worse by better) but im already excited about next year!!! go irish
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my thoughts exactly
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Excited about next year? How could you possibly be excited about next year? Did you not watch the USC game where we didn't get a first down until the end of the third quarter ?
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Good News Look for much improvement next year and a Nat. Championship in '10. Much progress must happen in the offseason... Let's not just open up the quarterback position for competition, all positions are open for competition. I would like to see jonas gray have a shot at playing along with some others.
Let's Get the train rollin fellas( let's start with a bowl win)!!!!
Let's Get the train rollin fellas( let's start with a bowl win)!!!!
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Great can we go back to disliking Meyer again for at least another year? lol Or are we going to wait until he tells Shaq that we will no longer be using WR in our offense?
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I wonder how much money Chuck gave Scout.Com to come out with that preemptive article?
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Sigh.
The reality is that Charlie is going to get that 5th year. Let's all remember that he stated very clearly in his first interview at ND the following. "If I can't get it done in 5 years I should be FIRED". Well, those words will follow him like a bad fart for 2009. So, now that he is staying, let's look at why, what he must do this off-season and what he must do during the 2009 season.
WHY IS HE STAYING??
1. Our rookie AD is plain and simply not prepared to make what will amount to career defining decision during his first few months on the job. This is a move which will require many moving pieces all moving with perfect timing or the walls will crumble. If Swarbick announces now, most of the best candidates are in bowls which puts them in ugly situations and they may get locked up just like Miles at LSU when UM wanted him.
2. No Messiah Coach. Last time we fired Ty believing we could get Urban the Legend. There is no monster candidate out there right now. Next year or beyond, we my have a few options. If Skip Holtz shows continued growth, he could be a savior. If Kelly shows another year of miracle wins at UC, maybe he is the guy. IF the Urban rumors about him still being interested in ND, his kids are a year older.
3. The BUYOUT!!! Regardless of the actual number, it is pretty much agreed to be a significant number. This will cause embarassment and financial pain. Next year makes it one year less.
4. RECRUITING!! Nobody will argue that CW can close a recruit with the best of them. He again has a stellar recruit list lined up for 2009 and according to all reports he has a great start on 2010.
5. ND MAN. CW is an ND grad and loves ND, so he does get some give and take for that reason. He supports the University and everyone would rather an ND guy succeed.
Off-Season Changes:
1. Serious Staff Changes. Let's not kid ourselves, Swarbick may not have fired CW, but he surely gave Charlie some advise. It is like, "Charlie, its them or you, make a choice who is going. So you will see a new OC that has experience at designing and leading a college offense. There will be a new OL coach, I expect someone who is a complete ass kicker like a Tenuta. In conclusion here, bye-bye Haywood, Latina and maybe Mendoza.
2. 2009 Signing Day. He must close the deal with the kids he has recruited for this year. There are some instant contributors on this list that we can use on O and D. Wood and Shaq could play as Frosh. So could Calabrese and Stockton on D.
2009 Season
1. He must hand the keys for the offense completely over to the new OC and his staff. CW can give some advise, but our O needs some serious HELP. Look at the D. It is 100% in the hands of Tenuta and Brown. They have done a very good job getting those kids to play hard and with passion. The O needs a new identity like its coaching staff.
2. CW needs to open the QB competition up to both Crist and Clausen. No eligibility to save for Dayne in 09. Jimmy your job is not a given anymore.
3. OL, every position is open season. There is not a player on that line who deserves a guaranteed spot. There are going to be plenty of kids to compete. Not even 3 year starter Young should have a nod, he has underperformed like no other.
4. 10 win season is the only acceptable result next year. CW is bringing back an entire offense and most of the defense. He has 7 home games, 1 nuetral field and 4 away. The opponents are softer and even the tough ones are going to be younger than ND.
5. ND needs to have no mercy on even the weakest opponent. What should have been a solid victory at Navy turned into a downer of a victory. CW needs to forget about that respect crap and be ruthless like Urban. We need to show the nation some good ole ass whoopins. NO MERCY!! When Navy comes to ND, drive it down their throat and more.
6. Recruiting Savvy. Charlie must continue to recruit with the elite schools. This will only get done next season if he shows some early season success. We need to bury Nevada, whip UM, beat MSU to start.
I know that many of you were clammering for CW to pack his bags and I was right there with you. However, I think we all knew there were some big obstacles and timing is not good. We can either cry for 9 months or look at some real possible positives.
The positives are the following.
First, we are going to go to a bowl game and will be matched against a likely soft opponent. This will allow our kids a chance to end the season with a win. We will get that damn 48 year bowl victory drought monkey off our back. That is a darn good thing. Plus, I want the seniors to get a chance to celebrate a final games victory. Kuntz, Bruton and others deserve better than the Syracuse debacle.
Second, CW is closing out another great recruiting class with some great athletes. This will mean that we will have 4 Top 10 recruiting classes.
Third, if CW can pick a couple good O staff guys like he did with Brown and Tenuta on D we could make some serious strides with our talent.
Third, if CW does not show the improvement next season, there will be a roster so laden with talent that coming to ND will be very attractive to many top coaches.
Finally, do not cry, jump off a cliff, burn your ND flag, or have your ND tattoo removed. The University will survive, the team will improve and most of all "WE ARE ND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY IS HE STAYING??
1. Our rookie AD is plain and simply not prepared to make what will amount to career defining decision during his first few months on the job. This is a move which will require many moving pieces all moving with perfect timing or the walls will crumble. If Swarbick announces now, most of the best candidates are in bowls which puts them in ugly situations and they may get locked up just like Miles at LSU when UM wanted him.
2. No Messiah Coach. Last time we fired Ty believing we could get Urban the Legend. There is no monster candidate out there right now. Next year or beyond, we my have a few options. If Skip Holtz shows continued growth, he could be a savior. If Kelly shows another year of miracle wins at UC, maybe he is the guy. IF the Urban rumors about him still being interested in ND, his kids are a year older.
3. The BUYOUT!!! Regardless of the actual number, it is pretty much agreed to be a significant number. This will cause embarassment and financial pain. Next year makes it one year less.
4. RECRUITING!! Nobody will argue that CW can close a recruit with the best of them. He again has a stellar recruit list lined up for 2009 and according to all reports he has a great start on 2010.
5. ND MAN. CW is an ND grad and loves ND, so he does get some give and take for that reason. He supports the University and everyone would rather an ND guy succeed.
Off-Season Changes:
1. Serious Staff Changes. Let's not kid ourselves, Swarbick may not have fired CW, but he surely gave Charlie some advise. It is like, "Charlie, its them or you, make a choice who is going. So you will see a new OC that has experience at designing and leading a college offense. There will be a new OL coach, I expect someone who is a complete ass kicker like a Tenuta. In conclusion here, bye-bye Haywood, Latina and maybe Mendoza.
2. 2009 Signing Day. He must close the deal with the kids he has recruited for this year. There are some instant contributors on this list that we can use on O and D. Wood and Shaq could play as Frosh. So could Calabrese and Stockton on D.
2009 Season
1. He must hand the keys for the offense completely over to the new OC and his staff. CW can give some advise, but our O needs some serious HELP. Look at the D. It is 100% in the hands of Tenuta and Brown. They have done a very good job getting those kids to play hard and with passion. The O needs a new identity like its coaching staff.
2. CW needs to open the QB competition up to both Crist and Clausen. No eligibility to save for Dayne in 09. Jimmy your job is not a given anymore.
3. OL, every position is open season. There is not a player on that line who deserves a guaranteed spot. There are going to be plenty of kids to compete. Not even 3 year starter Young should have a nod, he has underperformed like no other.
4. 10 win season is the only acceptable result next year. CW is bringing back an entire offense and most of the defense. He has 7 home games, 1 nuetral field and 4 away. The opponents are softer and even the tough ones are going to be younger than ND.
5. ND needs to have no mercy on even the weakest opponent. What should have been a solid victory at Navy turned into a downer of a victory. CW needs to forget about that respect crap and be ruthless like Urban. We need to show the nation some good ole ass whoopins. NO MERCY!! When Navy comes to ND, drive it down their throat and more.
6. Recruiting Savvy. Charlie must continue to recruit with the elite schools. This will only get done next season if he shows some early season success. We need to bury Nevada, whip UM, beat MSU to start.
I know that many of you were clammering for CW to pack his bags and I was right there with you. However, I think we all knew there were some big obstacles and timing is not good. We can either cry for 9 months or look at some real possible positives.
The positives are the following.
First, we are going to go to a bowl game and will be matched against a likely soft opponent. This will allow our kids a chance to end the season with a win. We will get that damn 48 year bowl victory drought monkey off our back. That is a darn good thing. Plus, I want the seniors to get a chance to celebrate a final games victory. Kuntz, Bruton and others deserve better than the Syracuse debacle.
Second, CW is closing out another great recruiting class with some great athletes. This will mean that we will have 4 Top 10 recruiting classes.
Third, if CW can pick a couple good O staff guys like he did with Brown and Tenuta on D we could make some serious strides with our talent.
Third, if CW does not show the improvement next season, there will be a roster so laden with talent that coming to ND will be very attractive to many top coaches.
Finally, do not cry, jump off a cliff, burn your ND flag, or have your ND tattoo removed. The University will survive, the team will improve and most of all "WE ARE ND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Polish Irishman
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Good luck, Chuck. Let us hope we not are at a systemic disadvantage next year.
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I have an inside source that said Swarbrick called Urban Meyer and Meyer told him wait one more year and he will come. Source is very highly placed.
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Totally agree. Haywood will probably have another job somewhere else (maybe UW) and, if we are lucky, Latina and Mendoza will be shown the door. I would love to see a guy like Bernie Parmalee get a shot at a higher position like OC. I think he has quietly done a great job. He gets very little credit for keeping a patchwork TE corps to not become a liability. The other three I would be happy to see go. Sorry guys, best of luck to ya.
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I call shenanigans!