Friend in the know told me if USC beats us by 4 TDs ...

[Irish Rogue]

Charlie will be fired. The administration will give him another year if we aren't embarrassed. If we are, he won't be coaching the bowl game.

Friend is highly placed.

Obviously we want to see ND beat the Condoms, but unless USC lays down, I don't see this game being under 4 touchdowns. Brady and the gang could not get close in 06.

 

[ndftbl]

So deceptive

So deceptive

Look at this quote from the Tribune. It speaks volumes:

'The current class of juniors, a group rated No. 8 nationally by Rivals.com when it signed in February 2006, boasts zero true impact players. Firing Weis would mean his superiors decided that either the staff miscalculated the talent or can't do enough to nurture it.'

The reasons it was rated so highly were (1) a 5-star CB who is not on the team this year, (2) two top QBs NEITHER of whom is currently on the team, (3) six top OLs, two of whom have left the team, and (4) large numbers generally - 28 or 29.

Adjust for all those factors, and the class would probably be no higher than 30.

So, judge the class based on whether it is living up to No. 30, not No. 8.

 

[Master Guns]

If he is fired....

How many players decommit?

How many players transfer?

This rumor is bogus because ND knows that we need this recruiting class and next year will be turned around.

All of you asking for his head on a plate are ridiculous. You act like the next guy that comes in will be sooo successful.....

What top notch coach wants to come here especially since we like to fire people right away and not give anyone time to build a program..

Exactly!

CW getting fired before he gets another season will set us back even further. Stop drinking the cool-aid on these flavor of the week coaches. If he is going to get fired next year the administration has to go out and line up THE COACH THAT WILL STOP THE MADNESS. Personally I'm tired of the revolving door on the head coaches office. Unless we have a Rockne reincarnated waiting in the wings or the next "Lou Holtz" (and not Skip either) with play-book in hand we need to wait this out and see if CW can get it together. What is another year or two when you've been waiting since 1988??

 

[Fire Charlie]

Charlie will be fired. The administration will give him another year if we aren't embarrassed. If we are, he won't be coaching the bowl game.

Friend is highly placed.

I never thought id be saying this but..

GO TROJANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

You make some good points Master Guns.

 

[Fire Charlie]

Exactly!

CW getting fired before he gets another season will set us back even further. Stop drinking the cool-aid on these flavor of the week coaches. If he is going to get fired next year the administration has to go out and line up THE COACH THAT WILL STOP THE MADNESS. Personally I'm tired of the revolving door on the head coaches office. Unless we have a Rockne reincarnated waiting in the wings or the next "Lou Holtz" (and not Skip either) with play-book in hand we need to wait this out and see if CW can get it together. What is another year or two when you've been waiting since 1988??

Charlie got the best yougn QB in the country in Jimmy Clausen and he cant win with him. He's got 2 great receivers and he can't win with them. He's got a two great safties, 3 great LB's, and a great DT and he still cant win. I dont [care] if it sets us back 3, 4, or 5 years because the fact of the matter is Charlie cannot get it done. He should have stuck to coordinating.

 

[Dacian_Irish]

I think worrying about recruits is not a top priority. If you wait a year, do you worry about the recruits next year? It could happen that they lose recruits, but to me it's not something to base a decision on either way.

I don't have a clue what you said.... maybe it is because Bambi was a little distracting! lol....

Dude your so right recruiting is so over rated! You and TW would be best buds..

Recruiting is huge!

 

[Dacian_Irish]

I never thought id be saying this but..

GO TROJANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you get banned for saying that! Don't ever joke like that again!

 

[SoCalDomer]

I never thought id be saying this but..

GO TROJANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you get banned for saying that! Don't ever joke like that again!

No, people don't get banned for liking other schools. However, when they posts things like it and the post below, they are usually just a few posts away from that anyway. It's an issue of attitude and whether they intend to be a postivie contributor or just a flamer. A user name like that is strike one.

Who gives a shit? Charlie got the best yougn QB in the country in Jimmy Clausen and he cant win with him. He's got 2 great receivers and he can't win with them. He's got a two great safties, 3 great LB's, and a great DT and he still cant win. I dont give a fuck if it sets us back 3, 4, or 5 years because the fact of the matter is Charlie cannot get it done. He should have stuck to coordinating.

 

[WaveDomer]

I don't have a clue what you said.... maybe it is because Bambi was a little distracting! lol....

Dude your so right recruiting is so over rated! You and TW would be best buds..

Recruiting is huge!

I'm not saying recruiting is overrated. What I'm saying is you can't use that as your rationale to keep him if all signs point to firing him. No matter how long you wait to fire someone, you will always have to worry about recruits. Kind of like not wanting to move apartments this year because you're worried about the security deposit.

 

[Junkhead]

I'm not saying recruiting is overrated. What I'm saying is you can't use that as your rationale to keep him if all signs point to firing him. No matter how long you wait to fire someone, you will always have to worry about recruits. Kind of like not wanting to move apartments this year because you're worried about the security deposit.

I hope ND gets it together, but what does recruiting matter in the grand scheme if the coaches can't get wins? Or at least progress!

 

[OCIrish]

Define a true impact player.

Here is my heartfelt response to the rest of your post:
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And I mean that. No shit.

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[NDsuperfan09]

I havent heard anything concrete but I do know there is a ton of smoke all over the internet.

 

[nd911]

You're right superfan, and that smoke is coming from the fire Urban Meyer is starting. It's an exciting time to be an Irish fan.

 

[TX_Irish]

dont let the door knob hit ya

 

[PADOMERNUT]

You're right superfan, and that smoke is coming from the fire Urban Meyer is starting. It's an exciting time to be an Irish fan.

????????

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

first, you need to do a better job of making arguments if you want us to respond with more detail...
Well, I'm done trying to engage those people.

That was a very detailed and engaging response.

I'm Bambi Dammit.

 

[RKWhite]

The hated Mark May knew this team was so totally overrated. He was like the short sellers on the stock market- they saw this whole fiscal/financial crisis long before it hit. Sometimes you have to listen to those who strongly disagree with you- they may be closer to the truth!

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Charlie will be fired. The administration will give him another year if we aren't embarrassed. If we are, he won't be coaching the bowl game.

Friend is highly placed.

I call BS...sorry, but this is a multi-multi-million dollar decision...it does not ride on the outcome of one game.

 

[ACamp1900]

A friend in the know told ME that win or lose I'll be taking a turkey nap today

 

[kmoose]

Charlie got the best yougn QB in the country in Jimmy Clausen and he cant win with him. He's got 2 great receivers and he can't win with them. He's got a two great safties, 3 great LB's, and a great DT and he still cant win. I dont [care] if it sets us back 3, 4, or 5 years because the fact of the matter is Charlie cannot get it done. He should have stuck to coordinating.

1. Clausen is sure as hell not the best young QB in the country. He looks like he has all of the tools to be a great QB, but his play is inconsistent as hell. The jury is still out on him.

2. Those two great receivers are a true sophomore, and a true freshman. Tate has been playing well all year, but naturally it took Floyd a few games to really figure out what he was doing. And now he is out.

3. We have one very good safety, in Bruton. McCarthy tackles very well, making him a great run support guy. But his cover skills are average at best.


4. We don't have ONE great LB, let alone three. If you believe that we do, then it's no wonder that you want Weis fired. But the problem with that one is not Weis. It's you! Mo Crum is the best linebacker we have, and that's pretty average.

5. This one puzzles me the most. Who is this great DT you speak of? Is he on one of the interhall teams?

Based just upon your synopsis here, FC (which is by no means scientific nor necessarily accurate), I'm guessing that you expected 10 wins this year, and can't fathom that we didn't get there. Since the problem could certainly not be unrealistic expectations from *you*, then the problem must be with Weis, right?

 

[mooneytostle]

Charlie will be fired. The administration will give him another year if we aren't embarrassed. If we are, he won't be coaching the bowl game.

Friend is highly placed.

So if they beat us by 3TDs and a field goal they deem him good enough to stay? I really hope that the powers that be have a less arbitrary process to determine whether or not Weis should be retained.

On a related note: we will most likely lose by 6 touchdowns.

 

[NDsuperfan09]

lol at anyone believing midwestguy has inside sources.

 

[fraymont]

It very well be ugly...but 6tds is a lot. I mean last year they beat us 38-0 and we were a LOT worse

 

[phork]

And so were they.

 

[scoutgod]

This is by FAR the most entertaining thread on this site.

To think there is an over/under on this score to determine a huge buy(sell?)out is amazing.


There is a Sarah Palin porn rip-off online somewhere.... Gov.Nalin' ... this thread is by far more interesting.

 

[midwestguy]

lol at anyone believing midwestguy has inside sources.

Let's just say I went to law school with someone who is definitely in the know. The good thing about a post like mine is that we'll all know by Monday if it was true or not.

 

[ArtFernisanass]

Let's just say I went to law school with someone who is definitely in the know. The good thing about a post like mine is that we'll all know by Monday if it was true or not.

yes we will.

 

[Junkhead]

I have a in-law relative really high up in the AD. Waiting on word back on this story. Might take a few days.

 

[tbach3]

Charlie will be fired. The administration will give him another year if we aren't embarrassed. If we are, he won't be coaching the bowl game.

Friend is highly placed.

More BS I'm afraid.