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</PRE>Congrove, Pigskin, Keeper, Sagarin and Thompson power rating
services. The final ('07) power ratings for 117 teams were
compared to Rivals '04-07 team recruiting points. A power/
talent line was drawn through the middle of the graphed
data.

The line was updated with the '05-08 Rivals numbers. This
was done for the five services.

ND's new place on the lines was compared to the 2008 oppo-
nent's location to get a point spread. Since as many teams
were above the line as below it, the line represents the
point where a team's power rating is as likely to go either
way. ND prevailed in 10 of 12, but the uncanny thing is
how close the numbers compared. The wild cards seem to be
Pitt and North Carolina.

The margins ov victory (or loss) for the five services
are listed below. Enjoy...Tom

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I honestly see us losing to Purdue and beating Michigan... am I crazy???

Purdue has thier best team in ten years and Michigan is obviously going to be needing some games to adjust to the new system


but GREAT info
 
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Totally not out of the realm of possibility for this squad to go 10-2. How soon people forget the 2005 team that was supposed to win 4-5 games according to the Briston pundits.
 
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I could see us going 10-2 but I could also see us going 7-5...should be a VERY interesting season!!!
 
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purdue has their best team in 10 years? not sure about that. they lost a ton of talent from last year. Painter is back but does he have anyone to throw to?
 
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Alright i realize the numbers are plus and minus, but what about Navy. It doesnt give a plus or minus... is their a glitch and their is supposed to be a plus but there isnt enough room to show it or what?
 
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Yeah Camp no offense but what? Purdue lost all their wide outs and a lot of their better talent(our therefore lack of) on defense. Pudue should be a cake walk
 
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with this team this year. anything could happen. we will beat some people we werent suppossed to but then we may lose to a cake walk team. its going to be a interesting year thats for sure
 
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IHateMarkMay said:
Alright i realize the numbers are plus and minus, but what about Navy. It doesnt give a plus or minus... is their a glitch and their is supposed to be a plus but there isnt enough room to show it or what?
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It's probably a 2 digit cell. it's assumed to be a +
 
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Purude will be one of our tougher games I believe, look at the system on this thread it has Purdue being on par with Stanford and SU... and WORSE than SDSU... that's much crazier than my first statement...
 
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I say we lose to: Usc, Michigan State, Boston College, and either Michigan or Purdue (Maybe both). 10-2 would be nice but I'm thinking 7-5 or 8-4 more realistically. NOTE::: North Carolina is gonna be a tough ass game as well.
 
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Not enough room to show the "+" with...

Not enough room to show the "+" with...

the formatted columns. I use Lucida-Console font
because all letters and numbers have the same width
(and keep their spacing with HTML).

Any place you see a number without a sign should read
as a "plus".

The numbers are conservative because the power ratings
compared for the scoring margins are on a very slight
positive-slope straight line...Tom
 
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NDOM said:
I say we lose to: Usc, Michigan State, Boston College, and either Michigan or Purdue (Maybe both). 10-2 would be nice but I'm thinking 7-5 or 8-4 more realistically. NOTE::: North Carolina is gonna be a tough ass game as well.
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your joking about BC right?
 
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how do they own us? in the past 5 years we have played them they have beaten some of the worst Irish teams by a combined 25 points. we were decent in 02 when they beat us, in 03 04 and 07 we were a combined 14-20.

BC will go 4-8 this year. They lost 15 5th year seniors, most of which were starters
 
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notredomer23 said:
how do they own us? in the past 5 years we have played them they have beaten some of the worst Irish teams by a combined 25 points. we were decent in 02 when they beat us, in 03 04 and 07 we were a combined 14-20.

BC will go 4-8 this year. They lost 15 5th year seniors, most of which were starters
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Doesnt matter what our record was at the time or now. It matters that BC has beaten us the last several times we played them. I think they have won 5 or 6 in a row from what I remember???? I may be wrong.
 
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Your right, it doenst matter what our record was then, and why should theres matter from past years too. Using that logic it sounds like your saying just because they have won 5 straight it guarentees they win a 6th? They will suck this year. mark it down whatever you want
 
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notredomer23 said:
Your right, it doenst matter what our record was then, and why should theres matter from past years too. Using that logic it sounds like your saying just because they have won 5 straight it guarentees they win a 6th? They will suck this year. mark it down whatever you want
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I argee with NDOM until we beat them consider it a tough game...
 
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ya seriously, BC will be awful this year. They had 20 something 5th year senniors on the team last year. But they'll probably go 6-6 or 7-5 and win another crappy bowl game.
 
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ND 10-2 with corrections...

ND 10-2 with corrections...

My underlying 2005 and 2006 San Diego State Rivals
numbers came from another universe. This caused
the point spread for San Diego St (S D S) to be
way too small. A better set of numbers appear
below...TOm

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Yeah I thought it looked a bit off...
 
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Yeah Camp no offense but what? Purdue lost all their wide outs and a lot of their better talent(our therefore lack of) on defense. Pudue should be a cake walk
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I don't think that they will be a "cake walk", yet I would be surprised if they would UPSET the Irish this year. Yes, Painter is back (and a decent QB), but he won't have any proven studs to throw to. Plus, playing at ND .... I can't see the boilers beating ND!
 
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10-2 is pretty much a pipe dream. Is it possible? Sure. It's possible. Is it at all likely? Nope. We still have an unproven QB, a very pedestrian running game, no one that has shown the ability to catch the ball on a regular basis, and a defense that is suspect. Is there some individual talent scattered around the field? Of course. But individual talent does not get you anywhere near 10-2(unless you are talking about freakish Bo Jackson type talent, which we DO NOT have). With Tenuta coming on board, and Charlie giving up the playcalling, a huge turnaround is possible. But what gets me is not that we had such a bad year last year, but more importantly that we didn't even push around the teams that we should have, like Navy. I think we ought to prepare ourselves for 6-6, 5-7, while hoping for 8-4.
 
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10-2 is pretty much a pipe dream. Is it possible? Sure. It's possible. Is it at all likely? Nope. We still have an unproven QB, a very pedestrian running game, no one that has shown the ability to catch the ball on a regular basis, and a defense that is suspect. Is there some individual talent scattered around the field? Of course. But individual talent does not get you anywhere near 10-2(unless you are talking about freakish Bo Jackson type talent, which we DO NOT have). With Tenuta coming on board, and Charlie giving up the playcalling, a huge turnaround is possible. But what gets me is not that we had such a bad year last year, but more importantly that we didn't even push around the teams that we should have, like Navy. I think we ought to prepare ourselves for 6-6, 5-7, while hoping for 8-4.
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I this team wins less than 6 this year CW should be fired... period... no excuse to miss a bowl game two straight years with this talent, no matter how young and spread out it is... especially with THIS schedule...

but I do agree ten wins may be quite a strech
 
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ACamp1900 said:
I this team wins less than 6 this year CW should be fired... period...
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I'll be incredibly unhappy with less than 6 wins, myself. But, I won't call for his head until I see how the team played, in those games. If they look like this past year? I'd have to agree that Charlie's early success was probably more attributable to one Brady Quinn, than to Weis' genius. If they play hard, look like they know what they are doing out there, are in every game in 4th Quarter, and just have some bad breaks? Then I think we are headed in the right direction, and a coaching change would probably set us back instead of moving us forward.
 
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