Indianapolis Colts Football

[Irish#1]

Price is going to love running behind Q once he gets off IR.

 

[ab2cmiller]

2 firsts for Sauce, but nothing for Q?

Model franchise!

Q was going to be a free agent at the end of the year.

Sauce had like 5 years left on his contract.

Of course you're not going to be getting 1st's in that situation.

 

[Irish#1]

Q was going to be a free agent at the end of the year.

Sauce had like 5 years left on his contract.

Of course you're not going to be getting 1st's in that situation.

I wasn't expecting a 1st, but he was worth a 2nd. I'm going to miss watching him. He's still playing at a high level.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Buckner is also in the final year of his contract and will likely not be resigned. Buzz is that he could be traded back to the 49ers.

 

[bkess8]

I wasn't expecting a 1st, but he was worth a 2nd. I'm going to miss watching him. He's still playing at a high level.

Same here, I wanted at least a 2nd for Big Q.

 

[MacIrish75]

Same here, I wanted at least a 2nd for Big Q.

My main issue is that they made this deal on 10/27 when it likely still would’ve been there on 11/9-10. If you get this return at that point, fine. It is what it is. Let it play out a bit first.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

My main issue is that they made this deal on 10/27 when it likely still would’ve been there on 11/9-10. If you get this return at that point, fine. It is what it is. Let it play out a bit first.

I don’t disagree, but we have no leverage whatsoever. Everyone know we’re about to fire sale. All they had to say is say look, the deal is today only. We need him asap. You don’t do it today, then we are not doing it next week. It is what it is at this point, this team isn’t going to be good for a very long time, one way or the other.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Team going nowhere in an obvious teardown got picks for a 31 year old on an expiring deal. It's as good as it will get.

 

[ab2cmiller]

For a 4th round pick

 

[Bane]

Thank you for not sending him to Chicago or Green Bay 🙏

 

[bkess8]

Would love it if we can hire Brian Flores as HC then pair him with a good young OC and John McKay as GM from the Rams.

 

[Irish#1]

Irsay better hit a grand slam with her decisions. Unless she manages to somehow get a couple first and second round picks you can count on the Colts being cellar dwellers for the next 3-4 years.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Nelson and Buckner gone they are turbo-tanking.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Yeah! Jets might have two top three picks!!!

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Now dump Taylor to solidify my top three pick!

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Who is acting GM? Irsay?

 

[BeatSC]

They should Riley Leonard another shot. He played a lot better than Jones in the final game that actually mattered last year. He accounted for 3 TDs if not 4 and kept the Colts in that game. What do they have to lose? Jones is a bust……again!

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Who is acting GM? Irsay?

Ed Dodds was assistant GM under Ballard and is the “acting” interim GM, but as a practical matter, he’s just doing the administrative tasks and Carlie is actually making the decisions at this point, as I understand it.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Nelson and Buckner gone they are turbo-tanking.

Well, they aren’t tanking. Their first round pick belongs to the jets, so any additional losing they do only really helps the jets. They would be thrilled to still win games. But what they ARE doing is trying to get some draft capital to make the GM and Head coach jobs look more attractive to candidates.

 

[bkess8]

This is a real damned if we do, damned if we don't. A new coach and GM aren't coming to Indy with the roster/draft capital situation we had prior to the two trades made yesterday. We didn't get what Big Q and Buckner were worth as players but we got what we could due to the contract they had left. If they trade Taylor and don't get a first round pick then I will be pissed because he is worth that and more. We haven't won the shittiest division in the NFL for the last 10 years so it was time to break it all down and start over fresh. I am hoping they can bring in a coach and GM who they will give time to build this the right way for years to come. You can't win in the NFL without a franchise QB and we have one of the worst right now who we paid way to much money for so we have to ride out that contract also.

 

[drayer54]

Mediocre organization is going to have a mediocre quarterback. The people I know who work there say it has gone to shit since the daughters took over. They're cheap and they hire terribly. This is going to be rough.

Everyone misses Jim…

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Well, they aren’t tanking. Their first round pick belongs to the jets, so any additional losing they do only really helps the jets. They would be thrilled to still win games. But what they ARE doing is trying to get some draft capital to make the GM and Head coach jobs look more attractive to candidates.

You don't need a 1st round pick to tank. Trading your two of your three best players 7 games in is a full admission of defeat on the season.

 

[Irish#1]

Well, they aren’t tanking. Their first round pick belongs to the jets, so any additional losing they do only really helps the jets. They would be thrilled to still win games. But what they ARE doing is trying to get some draft capital to make the GM and Head coach jobs look more attractive to candidates.

Draft capital isn't worth that much when your getting picks in the third round and later. I have a feeling it's going to be a very long time before they look like contenders again.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

You don't need a 1st round pick to tank.

Then what are you “tanking” for, exactly? The first round, and more correctly the top say, 15 picks, are what you tank for in the NFL. There is no appreciable difference in value between a high or low 2nd round pick.

So yes, you DO IN FACT need a first round pick to tank. That’s literally the only reason to do so.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Draft capital isn't worth that much when you’re getting picks in the third round and later. I have a feeling it's going to be a very long time before they look like contenders again.

It’s a quantity over quality situation, unfortunately. Capital in this scenario means number of picks.

 

[Irish#1]

It’s a quantity over quality situation, unfortunately. Capital in this scenario means number of picks.

I get that, but that's like having a handful of Power Ball tickets. You might hit for $5 but none of them are likely to be difference makers.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

I get that, but that's like having a handful of Power Ball tickets. You might hit for $5 but none of them are likely to be difference makers.

I don’t disagree. I’m just telling you what the strategy is at this point. You have to do SOMETHING, right? So you don’t have some first rounders, what else can you do? All you can do is get quantity, since you can’t get quality. No one is going to take the job if you have zero first rounder NOR anything else. At the very least they can say, hey, we’ve got 15-18 other picks. It’s SOMETHING.

🤷‍♂️ it is what it is.

 

[bkess8]

We wont find instant game changers but we can build more depth for the long term while we wait to find our future franchise quarterback. I agree that there isn't much else we can do but I know we can all agree that Ballard really screwed the franchise with his poor draft performance and horrible roster management/free agent signings.