Kurt “The Truth” Cignetti

[Huntr]

Great point, at certain position groups they're performing as expected with respect to experience, and at others they're overperforming to an insane degree. That might not be because they're cheating, though

I'm not even saying they're cheating. I'm saying they appear to be so far fucking out of the ordinary that asking questions is a legit endeavor.

 

[WineGate]

I'm not even saying they're cheating. I'm saying they appear to be so far fucking out of the ordinary that asking questions is a legit endeavor.

100% agree

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It’s a fascinating discussion and the numbers merit some investigation.

 

[Bluto]

So Pat Coogan is juicing by day and hacking the cloud for practice footage at night? Impressive

If any player on the team is doing the hacking it’s Mendoza. Lol.

 

[Dale]

So Pat Coogan is juicing by day and hacking the cloud for practice footage at night? Impressive

 

[ndfanatic78]

I'm not even saying they're cheating. I'm saying they appear to be so far fucking out of the ordinary that asking questions is a legit endeavor.

It’s a legit endeavor if you are just trying to figure out what they are doing different. It’s totally different than some accusing them of cheating without any actual evidence just because they are way outside the statistical norm.

 

[Huntr]

Well, yeah, one is a process and one is a conclusion.

 

[ndfanatic78]

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The actual argument is based on no evidence so yea until there is any type of evidence to back up the claims we can make as many straw man arguments to this disingenuous debate. Just because they are deviating from the norm does not prove or even indicate cheating. So until there is evidence it is totally legit to mock the accusations.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

Anyone believing they hacked the cloud for practice footage should speak to a mental health professional. Lol. That would be so easily provable. It also shows an obvious lack of ball knowledge if you couldn't see what happened on the first play against Oregon. Go watch each time it's happened and it's clearly just good football. I guess conspiracies may make sense when you haven't actually watched much CFB other than ND.

 

[Dale]

It’s a legit endeavor if you are just trying to figure what they are doing different. It’s totally different than some accusing them of cheating without any actual evidence just because they are way outside the statistical norm.

The cheating stuff started because the Indiana narrative is they don’t make mistakes and are so well prepped. It’s just taking that result and wondering if there is a nefarious reason for it.

Michigan had the same reputation prior to the allegations.

 

[WineGate]

The accrual argument is based on no evidence so yea until there is any type of evidence to back up the claims we can make as many straw man arguments to disingenuous debates.

Accrual argument? Since when was anyone talking about accounting?

 

[Huntr]

Anyone believing the hacked the cloud for practice footage should speak to a mental health professional. Lol. That would be so easily provable.

The Houston Astros were banging on fuckin trash can lids to cheat.

Connor Stallions was on the CMU sideline in a crap-tastic disguise.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

The Houston Astros were banging on fuckin trash can lids to cheat.

Connor Stallions was on the CMU sideline in a crap-tastic disguise.

Someone hire the PI and let's look into it.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

IE is buying rumors from SEC burners now? Lolol

 

[Huntr]

Guys, they're just good.

Deal with it.

 

[Dale]

The actual argument is based on no evidence so yea until there is any type of evidence to back up the claims we can make as many straw man arguments to this disingenuous debate. Just because they are deviating from the norm does not prove or even indicate cheating. So until there is evidence it is totally legit to mock the accusations.

I don’t think “hey a team cheated two years ago I wonder if another team is now” is the most disingenuous accusation one can dream up, do you?

 

[NDFAN420]

I agree that it's ridiculous to call Indiana's run impossible but that's an interesting perspective on statistics there

In this case, interesting is totally synonymous with accurate and perspective with application.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

Guys, they're just good.

Deal with it.

Wonderful evidence you have there of Indiana cheating good sir

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

I don’t think “hey a team cheated two years ago I wonder if another team is now” is the most disingenuous accusation one can dream up, do you?

Sure, when you're grasping at straws trying to connect Michigan to Indiana, it's disingenuous

 

[WineGate]

In this case, interesting is totally synonymous with accurate and perspective with application.

I wasn't trying to be a dick lol, you seem to know enough about statistics in your original post that I wouldn't mind talking with you about it, maybe in a thread where people aren't trolling each other.

 

[ndfanatic78]

I don’t think “hey a team cheated two years ago I wonder if another team is now” is the most disingenuous accusation one can dream up, do you?

It sounds like a bunch of whinny pussies that can’t stand a team who has historically been dog shit is now at the pinacle while their favorite team hasn’t won the big game in almost 40 years.

I love ND but it doesn’t mean every team that has made runs in the past 40 years is cheating and that’s what is holding ND back.

Give me evidence or get the fuck out. I’m done with this debate. I’ve got better things to do with my life.

Let me know when there is evidence and I hope they throw the book at them. Otherwise it’s just a way to diminish and sow doubt on what they have accomplished.

 

[Dale]

It sounds like a bunch of whinny pussies that can’t stand a team who has historically been dog shit is now at the pinacle while their favorite team hasn’t won the big game in almost 40 years.

I love ND but it doesn’t mean every team that has made runs in the past 40 years is cheating and that’s what is holding ND back.

Give me evidence or get the fuck out. I’m done with this debate. I’ve got better things to do with my life.

Let me know when there is evidence and I hope they throw the book at them. Otherwise it’s just a way to diminish and sow doubt on what they have accomplished.

 

[GoldenAura]

Give me evidence or get the fuck out. I’m done with this debate. I’ve got better things to do with my life

lmao why are you so mad though

 

[Huntr]

Wonderful evidence you have there of Indiana cheating good sir

Again, for the reading impaired, I didn't say they're cheating. I'm saying there are likely reasons for them being this good, other than their average age being 8 months older than their opponents or the 64 yr old minor-league journeyman coach somehow being an overlooked genius for the 40 years he's been in coaching.

It's prob just an amazing coincidence that one of their biggest donors has a highly advanced company that analyzes college football video data.

 

[Huntr]

I’m done with this debate. I’ve got better things to do with my life.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

Again, for the reading impaired, I didn't saying they're cheating. I'm saying there are likely reasons for them being this good, other than their average age being 8 months older than their opponents or the 64 yr old minor-league journeyman coach somehow being an overlooked genius for the 40 years he'd been in coaching.

It's prob just an amazing coincidence that one of their biggest donors has a highly advanced company that analyzes college football video data.

Keep going down the rabbit hole and see what you find!

 

[ndfanatic78]

lmao why are you so mad though

Who’s mad? Stated how dumb this is until there is evidence and how petty it sounds. What did I use some language that hurt you?

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It sounds like a bunch of whinny pussies that can’t stand a team who has historically been dog shit is now at the pinacle while their favorite team hasn’t won the big game in almost 40 years.

I love ND but it doesn’t mean every team that has made runs in the past 40 years is cheating and that’s what is holding ND back.

Give me evidence or get the fuck out. I’m done with this debate. I’ve got better things to do with my life.

Let me know when there is evidence and I hope they throw the book at them. Otherwise it’s just a way to diminish and sow doubt on what they have accomplished.

LOL!!!

Feel free to leave the thread that you find so upsetting.

 

[ndfanatic78]

LOL!!!

Feel free to leave the thread that you find so upsetting.

Dang you guys are thin skinned. My post could have been a lot more abrasive.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

So if the point is cheating is a thing that happens, I fully concede that. Seems like a stupid point since there's no evidence of Indiana doing that, though? Maybe the type of thing butthurt fans say?