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LOL! I get it. That's 99% stereotype, though. I've been to each of the lower 48 several times except for only going to VT twice. The difference between states is pretty minimal. Rural NY is rural AL is rural OR. Same for urban areas for the most part. We all watch the same TV, listen to the same music, read the same books, listen to the same news, surf the same Internet. Just like every other state, Alabama has some poor areas, some very wealthy areas, some very backwards areas, and probably a lot more high tech than most with all the NASA, aerospace, and DoD stuff in the Huntsville area, and all the high end medical centers in Birmingham (lots of top pro athletes and wealthy foreigners come to B'ham for sports & coronary surgery). Basically, it's like everywhere else. My experience is that 99% of the regional or state stereotypes from all over the country are about 99% BS.
I disagree somewhat.

I’d take my chances with California rednecks over Deep South ones 100 times out of 100.

I was told by everyone I talked to “fuel up before the State line and do not stop in Mississippi!” before I drove across the South.
 
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I disagree.

I’d take my chances with California rednecks over Deep South ones 100 times out of 100.

I was told by everyone I talked to “fuel up before the State line and do not stop in Mississippi!” before I drove across the South.
Well if you did not wear a pink Tshirt you would be ok
 

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I am planning a pushbike ride through Mississippi / Tennessee on the Natchez Trace Parkway - watching a lot of youtube videos on it and the locals seem friendly and generous. That's my impression of the south.
 

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I disagree.

I’d take my chances with California rednecks over Deep South ones 100 times out of 100.

I was told by everyone I talked to “fuel up before the State line and do not stop in Mississippi!” before I drove across the South.
When, 1962? There's not a place I know of in the South that Blacks or Hispanics or whoever can't stop at other than seriously high crime urban areas that NOBODY stops at for obvious reasons. That stereotype was never all that accurate to begin with and certainly not accurate at all for at least 50 or more years. You might as well claim you'd worry about getting scalped on the Rez or being scared of bootleggers shooting you in Chicago. Rednecks are rednecks. Heck, the most redneck place I've ever been to is western Michigan.

I've shared this story before, but it bears repeating. One of my best friends is an 84-year-old black guy from my hometown in Alabama. He loves to tell of a time several years ago when he visited a cousin in Cleveland. Her husband had probably never been anywhere outside of Cleveland in his life and said to my friend, "How can you stand to live down there in Alabama? You have to live in a shack out in the woods and run from the Klan and can't go in stores and all." My friend was like, "What??? The Klan? Man, nobody's seen the Klan since about 1970. I live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood. I can go into any restaurant or store in the state and live in any neighborhood in the state I can afford." "No, I know how it is. I've seen it on TV. You gotta stay low and run from the Klan down there." JFC. People like that who've never been and get all their info from TV and movies know the South about as well as someone who's watched Scooby Doo knows dogs.
 

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live in Granger… I guess we roll differently here.
As did I before unfortunately heading back to TH. I was right off of Gumwood near Brick and Adams. My oldest went to Penn. Let me say this, parts of Alabama (Fairhope, Mobile, Mountain Brook, Homewood) are substantially nicer and superior to Granger/Mishawaka. It just is. Can’t speak for Huntsville. The only subdivision worth anything is Carmel and it’s still not as nice as Mountain Brook, Fair Hope and Homewood
 
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As did I before unfortunately heading back to TH. I was right off of Gumwood near Adams. My oldest went to Penn. Let me say this, parts of Alabama (Fairhope, Mobile, Mountain Brook, Homewood) are substantially nicer and superior to Granger/Mishawaka. It just is. Can’t speak for Huntsville. The only subdivision worth anything is Carmel and it’s still not as nice as Mountain Brook, Fair Hope and Homewood
I like Huntsville, but I'm biased, having grown up nearby. The beaches south of Fairhope are absolutely beautiful... like sugar. I love the food from down there, but I don't miss a flippin' thing about summer weather there.
 

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I like Huntsville, but I'm biased, having grown up nearby. The beaches south of Fairhope are absolutely beautiful... like sugar. I love the food from down there, but I don't miss a flippin' thing about summer weather there.
Huntsville is a great area, the whole Muscle Shoals area is honestly pretty great, but like you said summers are kind of unbearable unless you have a pool.
 

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When, 1962? There's not a place I know of in the South that Blacks or Hispanics or whoever can't stop at other than seriously high crime urban areas that NOBODY stops at for obvious reasons. That stereotype was never all that accurate to begin with and certainly not accurate at all for at least 50 or more years. You might as well claim you'd worry about getting scalped on the Rez or being scared of bootleggers shooting you in Chicago. Rednecks are rednecks. Heck, the most redneck place I've ever been to is western Michigan.

I've shared this story before, but it bears repeating. One of my best friends is an 84-year-old black guy from my hometown in Alabama. He loves to tell of a time several years ago when he visited a cousin in Cleveland. Her husband had probably never been anywhere outside of Cleveland in his life and said to my friend, "How can you stand to live down there in Alabama? You have to live in a shack out in the woods and run from the Klan and can't go in stores and all." My friend was like, "What??? The Klan? Man, nobody's seen the Klan since about 1970. I live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood. I can go into any restaurant or store in the state and live in any neighborhood in the state I can afford." "No, I know how it is. I've seen it on TV. You gotta stay low and run from the Klan down there." JFC. People like that who've never been and get all their info from TV and movies know the South about as well as someone who's watched Scooby Doo knows dogs.
Ok sure.

It’s amazing to me how white dudes insist on lecturing me about these things.

In my specific case that was in the mid 2000’s.

Also, my brother lived in Atlanta for about 15 years in the late 90’s and into the 2000’s.

Anyhow, he stopped for gas in Mississippi once. Within a few minutes a local sheriff showed up and started questioning him. The conversation immediately became about “what you doing here boy? Get your gas and get your ass back on the interstate”.

Him and some friends (all black) were driving back to the ATL from a game in Tennessee. Stopped at a bar in Georgia near the state line. As soon as they walked through the door the bartender said “we don’t serve people like you here”.

He’s got a bunch more stories like that.

Big difference between rednecks wanting to fight because you spit your chew out in the bathroom sink (Bakersfield) and the above.

Is what it is.
 

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Huntsville is a great area, the whole Muscle Shoals area is honestly pretty great, but like you said summers are kind of unbearable unless you have a pool.
Oddly, even though I grew up only about an hour from the Muscle Shoals area, I never spent any real time there. Other than a weekend visiting a girl during college and driving through on the way to Memphis, just nothing.
 

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Oddly, even though I grew up only about an hour from the Muscle Shoals area, I never spent any real time there. Other than a weekend visiting a girl during college and driving through on the way to Memphis, just nothing.
That is pretty odd, great area and great music scene there.
 

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Ok sure.

It’s amazing to me how white dudes insist on lecturing me about these things.

In my specific case that was in the mid 2000’s.

Also, my brother lived in Atlanta for about 15 years in the late 90’s and into the 2000’s.

Anyhow, he stopped for gas in Mississippi once. Within a few minutes a local sheriff showed up and started questioning him. The conversation immediately became about “what you doing here boy? Get your gas and get your ass back on the interstate”.

Him and some friends (all black) were driving back to the ATL from a game in Tennessee. Stopped at a bar in Georgia near the state line. As soon as they walked through the door the bartender said “we don’t serve people like you here”.

He’s got a bunch more stories like that.

Big difference between rednecks wanting to fight because you spit your chew out in the bathroom sink (Bakersfield) and the above.

Is what it is.
What does my race have to do with it? I was giving you the perspective of someone who lived there for 50 years. Not everything is race related.
 

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The playoff system needs to change.

Evidence: this thread has turned into whatever nonsense this is during a playoff game.
Not that different from NFL wildcard games. Sometimes you're just weeding out the riffraff or the games are just boring.
 

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Ok sure.

It’s amazing to me how white dudes insist on lecturing me about these things.

In my specific case that was in the mid 2000’s.

Also, my brother lived in Atlanta for about 15 years in the late 90’s and into the 2000’s.

Anyhow, he stopped for gas in Mississippi once. Within a few minutes a local sheriff showed up and started questioning him. The conversation immediately became about “what you doing here boy? Get your gas and get your ass back on the interstate”.

Him and some friends (all black) were driving back to the ATL from a game in Tennessee. Stopped at a bar in Georgia near the state line. As soon as they walked through the door the bartender said “we don’t serve people like you here”.

He’s got a bunch more stories like that.

Big difference between rednecks wanting to fight because you spit your chew out in the bathroom sink (Bakersfield) and the above.

Is what it is.
So kinda like when I would go to the hood when I was a kid. I’d be called cracker and threatened with being shot just because I was a white boy in a black hood. Racism is not just a white issue.
 

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So kinda like when I would go to the hood when I was a kid. I’d be called cracker and threatened with being shot just because I was a white boy in a black hood. Racism is not just a white issue.
Ok sure.

So what’s your point?

I’m just speaking to the issue at hand.

North Bakersfield had signs that read “no coloreds after dark” well into the 1980’s.

For whatever reason that all kind of fell by the wayside during the 90’s and at that point I could go into honkey tonk bars in Bakersfield and not have any issues unless I was being a knucklehead.
 

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What does my race have to do with it? I was giving you the perspective of someone who lived there for 50 years. Not everything is race related.
Right, except you left out the rest of your post where you were being dismissive and condescending by implying that this issue somehow disappeared in the 1950’s.

Of course you didn’t experience the same things as a bunch of black dudes and a Hispanic dude in the South because…you’re white. So yeah, race does factor into this.

Why the fuck would the police suddenly appear and someone tell a group of black people “we don’t serve people like you” right from the jump? Coincidence?
 
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Geez… we all experience racism or have experienced racism at some point in our lives. We shouldn’t let that define who we are nor should we shrink to that level of stupidity ourselves.

My profession has taken me to extended stays in Mississippi and Alabama- where I happen to live now. And, for what it’s worth, there’s way more racism and discrimination both ways in Mississippi than in Alabama today. If a person can’t see me for who I am then I surely don’t need them in my life.
 
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