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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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ulukinatme

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This may be the truest thing I've seen in ages. It explains so much about the counterproductive behavior of consistent bad life choices from the lower rungs of society that keep them there. This is why every large city in the US, run from top to bottom by the left, has become a crime-ridden cesspool of violence, poverty, homelessness, drug ODs, failing inner city schools, and etc.

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I agree to some degree. When you're at the bottom sometimes it's easier to blame others or blame society for where you're at. Society isn't always kind to those at the bottom and it can be hard breaking through that ceiling. Sometimes it's easier to just give up and drink, or find other bad ways to cope.
 

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I agree to some degree. When you're at the bottom sometimes it's easier to blame others or blame society for where you're at. Society isn't always kind to those at the bottom and it can be hard breaking through that ceiling. Sometimes it's easier to just give up and drink, or find other bad ways to cope.
Sadly true. Unfortunately, though, many of the policies of the left incentivize the behavior that keeps the poor down and makes it easier on them to just stay there instead of helping them climb out of their station. Instead of incentivizing them to rise and showing them how, it habitually tells them "Your problems aren't your fault" and "Only we can help you. You can't do it without us" and then enacts policies that keep them there at the bottom as perpetual dependents who'll always vote for them. It's shameful. Hardly anyone who stays on that path escapes. We're now on our 4th and 5th generations of "Perpetually Poor" because of it.
 

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The Western world has collapsed.

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Disarming the population that has been victim to their immigration policy and a massacre after demonstrating incompetent police work and then prohibiting protest. Zero free speech.





When a government tells you that there’s no room for debate, you’re in dangerous territory. To be fair, the Biden Autopen regime did this with COVID when they suppressed dissenting views and opinions that harmed their mandates.
 
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Both sides do extremely well in the market supposedly, but it shouldn't fly.


Rules need to be put in place clearly, however Buffet is an odd choice to use here. He’s a notoriously conservative investor and I’d expect a ton of big time traders will have beat him over the same time period.
 

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Import immigrants —> terrorism —> strip fundamental rights due actions of immigrants

These people are gone.

 

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Lmao Drayer spending too much time handing out fear propaganda pamphlets outside statehouses to not understand that the US passed bills making it illegal to cover your face at a protest to “unmask antifa”.

But brown = bad. Revenge of the neckbeards is going to be swift from their motorized scooters and insulin needles.
 

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Lmao Drayer spending too much time handing out fear propaganda pamphlets outside statehouses to not understand that the US passed bills making it illegal to cover your face at a protest to “unmask antifa”.

But brown = bad. Revenge of the neckbeards is going to be swift from their motorized scooters and insulin needles.
Hey look everybody! Our resident useful idiot is here to parrot his usual usefully idiotic lines. "Brown people!" "You're overreacting!" "It's only a few, not enough to matter!" Do you get paid to spout nonsense in defense of the wrong side over & over, or are you just that desperate to virtue signal to the other weak & woke that you "care so much?"
 

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Hey look everybody! Our resident useful idiot is here to parrot his usual usefully idiotic lines. "Brown people!" "You're overreacting!" "It's only a few, not enough to matter!" Do you get paid to spout nonsense in defense of the wrong side over & over, or are you just that desperate to virtue signal to the other weak & woke that you "care so much?"

You calling someone else weak is incredible. Still fighting the good fight for those that have necks with beards? Rediscover that neck and you could be right back in the club! LOL

We pity you, I hope you can find some sort of community that’s willing to accept you. Hopefully they at least give you a nice chair to sit on in the corner of the room.
 

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You calling someone else weak is incredible. Still fighting the good fight for those that have necks with beards? Rediscover that neck and you could be right back in the club! LOL

We pity you, I hope you can find some sort of community that’s willing to accept you. Hopefully they at least give you a nice chair to sit on in the corner of the room.
Great. Another post from you that has nothing to do with the main point, which is that you're IE's resident useful idiot for every bad position.

You're the very definition of the term. Here's Google's explanation. I was surprised your picture wasn't next to it.

A "useful idiot" is a derogatory political term for a naive person who unknowingly promotes a harmful cause or agenda, being exploited by its leaders without realizing they are being manipulated for propaganda or political gain, often associated historically with Western sympathizers of Communism during the Cold War. They are seen as unwitting pawns, easily swayed by appealing promises or symbols, who genuinely think they're helping but end up serving malicious interests.

Key aspects of the term:
  • Manipulation: The person is used by more powerful figures or groups for their own ends.
  • Naivety/Ignorance: They lack full understanding of the cause's true, often destructive, goals.
  • Unwitting Support: They actively support the cause, but their actions benefit the manipulators, not truly themselves or the cause's stated ideals.
  • Origin: Attributed to Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin (though exact wording debated) and popularized during the Cold War by the West to describe non-communists swayed by communist propaganda.


Modern Usage:
  • The term is used today to describe anyone manipulated into supporting a negative agenda, whether political, ideological, or otherwise, by figures like politicians or foreign powers.
 

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Great. Another post from you that has nothing to do with the main point, which is that you're IE's resident useful idiot for every bad position.

You're the very definition of the term. Here's Google's explanation. I was surprised your picture wasn't next to it.

A "useful idiot" is a derogatory political term for a naive person who unknowingly promotes a harmful cause or agenda, being exploited by its leaders without realizing they are being manipulated for propaganda or political gain, often associated historically with Western sympathizers of Communism during the Cold War. They are seen as unwitting pawns, easily swayed by appealing promises or symbols, who genuinely think they're helping but end up serving malicious interests.

Key aspects of the term:
  • Manipulation: The person is used by more powerful figures or groups for their own ends.
  • Naivety/Ignorance: They lack full understanding of the cause's true, often destructive, goals.
  • Unwitting Support: They actively support the cause, but their actions benefit the manipulators, not truly themselves or the cause's stated ideals.
  • Origin: Attributed to Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin (though exact wording debated) and popularized during the Cold War by the West to describe non-communists swayed by communist propaganda.


Modern Usage:
  • The term is used today to describe anyone manipulated into supporting a negative agenda, whether political, ideological, or otherwise, by figures like politicians or foreign powers.

At least you see me as useful.

You’ve shown time and time again to be easily manipulated. You’ve been exposed as a fraud. You can’t even argue like a man. You’ve spiralled into being an emotional little snowflake virtue signalling about words that hurt your feelings and think everyone who’s mean is saying a slur towards you.

What purpose do you serve? Punching bag? Charity case? My pity can only stretch so far. I used to disagree about the republicans saying there’s a strong man crisis, but maybe there is? You’re exactly what they describe.
 

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At least you see me as useful.

You’ve shown time and time again to be easily manipulated. You’ve been exposed as a fraud. You can’t even argue like a man. You’ve spiralled into being an emotional little snowflake virtue signalling about words that hurt your feelings and think everyone who’s mean is saying a slur towards you.

What purpose do you serve? Punching bag? Charity case? My pity can only stretch so far. I used to disagree about the republicans saying there’s a strong man crisis, but maybe there is? You’re exactly what they describe.
Great argument TG. Resorting to name-calling. Seems somewhat consistent on your part.

Let's see what Google calls this:

When someone resorts to name-calling in an argument, it signals they're likely losing the logical battle, feeling cornered, and shifting to emotional attacks (Ad Hominem fallacy) to control, belittle, or shut down the discussion due to poor emotional regulation, insecurity, or a need for power, rather than addressing the issue, often damaging the relationship and shutting down productive communication.
 

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At least you see me as useful.

You’ve shown time and time again to be easily manipulated. You’ve been exposed as a fraud. You can’t even argue like a man. You’ve spiralled into being an emotional little snowflake virtue signalling about words that hurt your feelings and think everyone who’s mean is saying a slur towards you.

What purpose do you serve? Punching bag? Charity case? My pity can only stretch so far. I used to disagree about the republicans saying there’s a strong man crisis, but maybe there is? You’re exactly what they describe.
You should probably read this sort of stuff a couple of times before posting it and ask yourself if it's really going to be effective or simply sound juvenile and insecure. It basically just takes many of my criticisms of you and tries to put them on me. Nothing original, nothing thought out, nothing close to accurate, nothing effective. Just, "Oh yeah??? Well you too!" Parroting my criticisms of you or parroting whatever woke virtue signaling nonsense MSNBC or The View is spouting this week don't speak well of your ability to debate effectively or think for yourself. Same for the strawman arguing and angry name calling. None of it is effective and only makes you look incapable of better. Nobody does any of that if they CAN argue a point or defend a position honestly and effectively.

You can't give a direct answer to any hard questions. You can't defend many of your goofy immature positions honestly. You can't refute anyone else's positions without rewording and totally changing their position (there's a reason you're the king of strawman arguing). You make some of the most ridiculous, woke, irrational posts, and when challenged, you never have the character to just own your position. Instead, you shift and spin and deflect and engage in ad hominem and strawman attacks and go into Vortex mode. You can't debate without getting butthurt and resorting to name calling. If you ever want me to stop busting you for all this there's a way: stop doing it. If you can't discuss stuff honestly, stop distorting everyone's positions, and acting like an insecure adolescent craving attention, the rest of us will continue to call you on it. If you want it to stop, do better.
 

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Lmao Drayer spending too much time handing out fear propaganda pamphlets outside statehouses to not understand that the US passed bills making it illegal to cover your face at a protest to “unmask antifa”.

But brown = bad. Revenge of the neckbeards is going to be swift from their motorized scooters and insulin needles.
This is just dumb stereotypes that your bubble believes and justification from a mask bill someone somewhere passed. Completely diminish and forget that they have allowed their desire to protect and appease a multicultural approach by sacrificing free speech, self-defense, and the right to peacefully assemble. Fundamental rights thrown out the door.
 

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Great argument TG. Resorting to name-calling. Seems somewhat consistent on your part.

Let's see what Google calls this:

When someone resorts to name-calling in an argument, it signals they're likely losing the logical battle, feeling cornered, and shifting to emotional attacks (Ad Hominem fallacy) to control, belittle, or shut down the discussion due to poor emotional regulation, insecurity, or a need for power, rather than addressing the issue, often damaging the relationship and shutting down productive communication.
Hypocrite.

You should probably read this sort of stuff a couple of times before posting it and ask yourself if it's really going to be effective or simply sound juvenile and insecure. It basically just takes many of my criticisms of you and tries to put them on me. Nothing original, nothing thought out, nothing close to accurate, nothing effective. Just, "Oh yeah??? Well you too!" Parroting my criticisms of you or parroting whatever woke virtue signaling nonsense MSNBC or The View is spouting this week don't speak well of your ability to debate effectively or think for yourself. Same for the strawman arguing and angry name calling. None of it is effective and only makes you look incapable of better. Nobody does any of that if they CAN argue a point or defend a position honestly and effectively.

You have never been credited with being a well thought out intelligent poster lol. You’ve always been clowned on for having a way outsized opinion of yourself. You have been shown to be a fraud.

If we’re keeping count of who can’t control their emotions, which one of us got banned because they had a public meltdown?

You can't give a direct answer to any hard questions. You can't defend many of your goofy immature positions honestly. You can't refute anyone else's positions without rewording and totally changing their position (there's a reason you're the king of strawman arguing). You make some of the most ridiculous, woke, irrational posts, and when challenged, you never have the character to just own your position. Instead, you shift and spin and deflect and engage in ad hominem and strawman attacks and go into Vortex mode. You can't debate without getting butthurt and resorting to name calling. If you ever want me to stop busting you for all this there's a way: stop doing it. If you can't discuss stuff honestly, stop distorting everyone's positions, and acting like an insecure adolescent craving attention, the rest of us will continue to call you on it. If you want it to stop, do better.

Hard questions? You can’t even read my responses, I responded to the statements that Drayer made about DEI, in a response to Leppy. You took that post and didn’t even address what I said. Which one of us cowers away and has to let the big boys argue for them? Isn’t me.

You can never lecture anyone on character when you’re too much of a coward to follow through on your beliefs. You just sit there and let people use slurs (in your opinion) without doing anything about it. Weak.
 

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This is just dumb stereotypes that your bubble believes and justification from a mask bill someone somewhere passed. Completely diminish and forget that they have allowed their desire to protect and appease a multicultural approach by sacrificing free speech, self-defense, and the right to peacefully assemble. Fundamental rights thrown out the door.
Poor wittle marginalized drayer 🎻
 

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This is just dumb stereotypes that your bubble believes and justification from a mask bill someone somewhere passed. Completely diminish and forget that they have allowed their desire to protect and appease a multicultural approach by sacrificing free speech, self-defense, and the right to peacefully assemble. Fundamental rights thrown out the door.
I don’t think red states are my bubble. Can’t believe the brown people forced all these red states to pass these bills. Hopefully someone lets them know they’re part of the woke bubble!

Only time conservatives care about “rights” is when it impacts their guns.

 

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Hypocrite.

You have never been credited with being a well thought out intelligent poster lol. You’ve always been clowned on for having a way outsized opinion of yourself. You have been shown to be a fraud.

If we’re keeping count of who can’t control their emotions, which one of us got banned because they had a public meltdown?

Hard questions? You can’t even read my responses, I responded to the statements that Drayer made about DEI, in a response to Leppy. You took that post and didn’t even address what I said. Which one of us cowers away and has to let the big boys argue for them? Isn’t me.

You can never lecture anyone on character when you’re too much of a coward to follow through on your beliefs. You just sit there and let people use slurs (in your opinion) without doing anything about it. Weak.
You just dodged all my points and got butthurt and tried to insult me. Boy, you really proved me wrong, didn't ya? LOL
 

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I don’t think red states are my bubble. Can’t believe the brown people forced all these red states to pass these bills. Hopefully someone lets them know they’re part of the woke bubble!

Only time conservatives care about “rights” is when it impacts their guns.

I literally posted about the right to assemble and free speech right there. You and the other neckbeard poster just laugh at it like who gives a shit if these rights are restricted.
 

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I literally posted about the right to assemble and free speech right there. You and the other neckbeard poster just laugh at it like who gives a shit if these rights are restricted.
You said dumb stereotypes and my bubble. I showed you red states limiting right to assembly. What are you going on about?
 

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You just dodged all my points and got butthurt and tried to insult me. Boy, you really proved me wrong, didn't ya? LOL
1) You still haven’t addressed my responses to Leppy. You continue to dodge that because you know you’re out of your intellectual depth.
2) Bud, you created your own new safe space with making up a new slur. Saying everyone else is emotional isn’t a great defense lmao
 
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