2025 College Football Playoffs

stlnd01

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I’m not convinced Lane is the second coming. Look at what he didn’t do at USC. He’s a brand builder more than some great coach.
He’s a good coach, sure. He has had Ole Miss on their best run in a long time over the last few years, and I’d guess he has grown since USC. But he’s never actually won anything major, and he’s not one of the elites. Just caught a good cycle.
 

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Speaking of rankings how the hell did Michigan finish 18th? Lost by 11 to Oklahoma, Lost by 18 to USC, Lost by 18 to Ohio State, zero ranked wins. After looking at that and with the gurantees ND has going forward we shouldn't be left out going 10-2 from here on out with the protection. It was also a very odd year, barely any upsets.
Might as well ask why Oregon is in the playoff. The Ducks beat, checks notes, Southern Cal and didn't play an SEC team like we did. The Ducks spent their OOC on Montana (1-11), wOSU (2-10), OKST (1-11).
 

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He’s a good coach, sure. He has had Ole Miss on their best run in a long time over the last few years, and I’d guess he has grown since USC. But he’s never actually won anything major, and he’s not one of the elites. Just caught a good cycle.
Ole Miss played a very light schedule and a pretty trash OOC schedule. I think Lane is a better coach now than he was when he got tarmac'd, but this season taught me he's still fundamentally the same guy he was back then. Hell, he's still really the same guy who Al Davis fired, Al really had Lane's number and 20 years on time has proven him totally correct on his judgement about Kiffin.
 

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Quinn is the only media member with the balls and desire to continue to beat NDs drum


Agreed. He is very active on X defending ND and criticizing the system.

On the flip side, you have Golic, Jr saying “nothing to see here”. I get it. He’s in the industry & has been employed by ESPN but I take everything he says about ND w/ a grain of salt. Not a bad guy but far from my favorite & at the end of the day would rather have someone like Quinn call out Disney than Golic being meely mouthed.
 

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I also thought it was funny that Navy wasn't ranked because that would give ND a second ranked win and obliterate the idea that they had a "close" resume with either of the teams that jumped them.
Also the fact that ND’s resume technically got better with Boise winning the MWC and still got jumped by a team that also didn’t play
Agreed. He is very active on X defending ND and criticizing the system.

On the flip side, you have Golic, Jr saying “nothing to see here”. I get it. He’s in the industry & has been employed by ESPN but I take everything he says about ND w/ a grain of salt. Not a bad guy but far from my favorite & at the end of the day would rather have someone like Quinn call out Disney than Golic being meely mouthed.
the fact Golic hasn’t said a single peep about why Yuracheck didn’t come on their show on Monday is all we need to know.
 

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Also the fact that ND’s resume technically got better with Boise winning the MWC and still got jumped by a team that also didn’t play

the fact Golic hasn’t said a single peep about why Yuracheck didn’t come on their show on Monday is all we need to know.
Yeah, they promoted it and then I never head a peep. He probably was told not to as to not fuel the fire that he & his SEC cucks started by black balling the Irish
 

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Also the fact that ND’s resume technically got better with Boise winning the MWC and still got jumped by a team that also didn’t play

the fact Golic hasn’t said a single peep about why Yuracheck didn’t come on their show on Monday is all we need to know.
I used to have a lot of respect for him but he is just part of the corrupt sports media now
 

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Might as well ask why Oregon is in the playoff. The Ducks beat, checks notes, Southern Cal and didn't play an SEC team like we did. The Ducks spent their OOC on Montana (1-11), wOSU (2-10), OKST (1-11).
Montana was not 1-11 this year. They will be in the FCS semifinals next weekend.

They beat Montana State, who is also going to be in the FCS semifinals next week.
 

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What’d they say??
Dickey V - “I'm so frustrated looking at that (showing CFP graphic) Charles. 
Notre Dame, not in there. Notre Dame deserved to be in. 5 weeks in a row, we have a show at ESPN where we give the top 12 teams make a big thing out of it every Tuesday. Big thing, big show. 
Here comes the committee.”

Charles - “I actually agree with you. I thought Notre Dame should have made it. I was disappointed. 
But you can see it coming in the last couple polls. They was creeping up on Miami, and my biggest problem with the whole thing, everybody talked about head to head. First of all, that was in August. 
Every coach knows in their minds. First, they were a very close game vs A&M and at Miami. Yeah, very close. 
Yeah. So, but your team is not the same in August as it is in December. Notre Dame is playing as well as anybody in the country other than Indiana and probably Ohio State.

We should put Notre Dame in the playoffs just to see Marcus Freeman walk in in a suit. Because there's no man in America wearing a suit better than Marcus Freeman when he walks in.” Lol
 

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Dick Vitale and Charles Barkley vouching for ND to be in the CFP on ESPN’s top basketball game of the day right now. Love to see it
Ran into Charles after the national title game in the hotel lobby. He had thrown a couple back during the game and was just hanging out with random ND fans. He was incredibly complimentary of ND and Freeman.
 

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Let’s keep this man away from any open windows please!
"Whether you buy Quinn’s argument or not, he’s at least asking questions that deserve answers. The College Football Playoff operates within an ESPN ecosystem, and pretending that creates zero conflicts of interest requires ignoring a lot of convenient timing."

We need all of our ND guys that have a voice In media to follow Quinn's truthful arguement. It's the life story about a book called Moby Dick
 

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It's a really great argument. And he doesn't even get to the part where Oklahoma didn't deserve to be ahead of ND either.

There are so many pro-ND arguments right now that you could write a book about it. Anyone still chirping about sour grapes, join a conference, etc have absolutely no brain and no desire to see through their ND hatred into what's really going on with CFB from a 30,000 foot view. I'm exhausted with it all.
 

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Fuel for the fire, grist for the mill, yadda yadda



Saw this thread as well as his other post. What do people think, is our media so lazy and not passionate about ND that NONE of them have published an attempted exposé or were they told to hold off on such things by ND?

They basically all sat on their hands this week publishing nothing of note.
 

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A week out, the post-screw job commentary has only confirmed what we already knew: the process is about money and not about ranking teams fairly, based on quality.

When someone (e.g., Greg McElroy) says that the committee doesn't want to drop CCG losers and create a disincentive to play CCGs, one wants to ask: who cares if there is a disincentive? Either the games count, or they don't. But if the goal is to pick the best teams, then we should be talking about the 21 point UGA/Bama game played the day before selection, not the 3 point ND/Miami game played more than three months earlier. Instead, the committee is rewatching the ND/Miami game, and the CCG doesn't count, at least for certain teams.

When someone (e.g., Joel Klatt) says the conferences want a committee because they can lobby it, it suggests we aren't trying to pick teams based on merit. Does anyone think lobbyists in Congress help members of Congress pick the "best" bills? Lol.

When some members of opposing fan bases say both that (1) we "deserved" to be left out because we aren't in a conference and keep any playoff earnings; but also (2) that we could have won, so it's good for [insert their team] that we aren't in, they admit that we would be in based on quality, but shouldn't be in for other reasons.

When a Pop-Tarts sponsor claims that Jim Phillips told him that the ACC would get a team in, and implied that if Duke beat UVA, ND would be out (and in the Pop-Tarts bowl), that suggests this was never really about Miami; it was about an ACC team being in.

Notice that none of these arguments in defense of what happened have anything to do with ND's quality as a team. Instead, each argument is about money. That is why ND opting out of the bowl game made sense: ND needed to fight back in way that these people understand. So long has we have this committee system, there will be a financial benefit to excluding ND, and we will be under-ranked relative to our quality. There must also be some financial cost associated with doing so. This is also why the entire system needs reform.
 
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