2025 College Football Playoffs

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More serious leaks from the committee.

A&M is -5000 to make the Quarterfinals on FanDuel. Oregon is -650, Ole Miss is -140, Bama -200, ND +105, OU +160. Someone knows something here. The only explanation here is A&M is moving up from the 7 seed.

As others have said, we should know if we are in or not prior to the Sunday bracket reveal just looking at the Sportsbooks.
That would imply they’re getting the 5 or 6 seed.
 

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I know TT winning is our easier and earliest path, but say BYU wins and Georgia beats Bama be enough to move Bama behind us. Are we in or out? These auto bids from conferences I forget about are confusing. Duke still plays football?
 

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A Bama loss takes them out of the CFP picture and a BYU loss could possibly drop them to the last team in. Either way I think both scenario's help ND's chances.

A BYU win & Bama loss I still think helps ND's chances to make the CFP.

A 10-3 Bama team shouldn't jump a 10-2 ND team.
 

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A Bama loss takes them out of the CFP picture and a BYU loss could possibly drop them to the last team in. Either way I think both scenario's help ND's chances.

A BYU win & Bama loss I still think helps ND's chances to make the CFP.

A 10-3 Bama team shouldn't jump a 10-2 ND team.
I still think the ND Bama flip last week has the simplest explanation - the most likely outcome of champ week includes a BYU loss and Bama loss. Having Bama at 9 protects them from being left out completely. They drop to 10. If they had left them at 10 and both BYU and Bama lose...what do you do? Have Miami jump both?
 

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I still think the ND Bama flip last week has the simplest explanation - the most likely outcome of champ week includes a BYU loss and Bama loss. Having Bama at 9 protects them from being left out completely. They drop to 10. If they had left them at 10 and both BYU and Bama lose...what do you do? Have Miami jump both?
I have no clue what the committee would do, but I hope they would put us and Miami in if Bama and BYU lose. That way the Finebaum's of the world can't focus all their blame on ND when Bama gets left out and all these Miami fans will be happy. ESPN wouldnt know who to complain about....
Would Bama be upset at our inclusion? Miami? Coachless Ole Miss? Tulane? JMU? The committee in general? Plus it would be easiest to exclude the only team with 3 losses.
BTW, this makes sense to me, but I have zero reason to think this would occur. At least I can dream for one last weekend.......
 
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I have no clue what the committee would do, but I hope they would put us and Miami in if Bama and BYU lose. That way the Finebaum's of the world can't focus all their blame on ND when Bama gets left out and all these Miami fans will be happy. ESPN wouldnt know who to complain about....
Would Bama be upset at our inclusion? Miami? Coachless Ole Miss? Tulane? JMU? The committee in general? Plus it would be easiest to exclude the only team with 3 losses.
BTW, this makes sense to me, but I have zero reason to think this would occur. At least I can dream for one last weekend.......
Nah, Miami can GTFO.
 

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I have no clue what the committee would do, but I hope they would put us and Miami in if Bama and BYU lose. That way the Finebaum's of the world can't focus all their blame on ND when Bama gets left out and all these Miami fans will be happy. ESPN wouldnt know who to complain about....
Would Bama be upset at our inclusion? Miami? Coachless Ole Miss? Tulane? JMU? The committee in general? Plus it would be easiest to exclude the only team with 3 losses.
BTW, this makes sense to me, but I have zero reason to think this would occur. At least I can dream for one last weekend.......
Bama needs to get absolutely obliterated to drop out in my opinion. Like 45-3 which is obviously not very likely. My bet is a close loss for both byu and bama and 9-11 stays the same.
 

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Bama needs to get absolutely obliterated to drop out in my opinion. Like 45-3 which is obviously not very likely. My bet is a close loss for both byu and bama and 9-11 stays the same.
I don't agree. The committee chair went out of his way to say ND-Bama conversation was one of the closest debates of the last 2 years. Bama loses, unless its one score game, and they drop behind ND.
 

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Bama needs to get absolutely obliterated to drop out in my opinion. Like 45-3 which is obviously not very likely. My bet is a close loss for both byu and bama and 9-11 stays the same.
Bama jumping ND was more of an indictment on Miami's chance of reaching the CFP. They didnt want to figure out what to do with Miami, BYU, Bama if BYU and Bama both lose. Or Miami and Bama if Bama loses and BYU wins.
 

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A Bama loss takes them out of the CFP picture and a BYU loss could possibly drop them to the last team in. Either way I think both scenario's help ND's chances.

A BYU win & Bama loss I still think helps ND's chances to make the CFP.

A 10-3 Bama team shouldn't jump a 10-2 ND team.

You are right it shouldn’t. But they are in the SEC. And that with ESPN means all bets are off.
 

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Ok, if you say so. I know Miami is the traditional enemy, but I see the SEC as a much bigger problem. They act like is is unthinkable for the SEC to have less than 5 teams and I'm sure a lot of people think Texas and Vandy are deserving as well. I'd much rather see the SEC get screwed.
The way Miami handled this entire thing burned through any sense of concern I might’ve held for them.
 

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The way Miami handled this entire thing burned through any sense of concern I might’ve held for them.
I get it, but what are they supposed to say? We said the same in 93. Us and Miami are pitted against each other like a bunch of dumdums. We should be each others biggest fans. Only time I want them out is if it boils down to us or them otherwise screw the SEC.
 

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Have they said anything about the SEC? It's been 100% attacking ND.
Yeah, I know, they are not too bright. They should focus all their complaining on the SEC, not us, or their overall poor ranking. Its like crabs in a barrel with those guys, but I'd rather not be a crab too, if that makes any sense(prob doesn't.....)
 

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I still think the ND Bama flip last week has the simplest explanation - the most likely outcome of champ week includes a BYU loss and Bama loss. Having Bama at 9 protects them from being left out completely. They drop to 10. If they had left them at 10 and both BYU and Bama lose...what do you do? Have Miami jump both?
If Bama loses I think they are out, if BYU loses as well I think they & Miami could be the last 2 teams in.
 

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I still think the ND Bama flip last week has the simplest explanation - the most likely outcome of champ week includes a BYU loss and Bama loss. Having Bama at 9 protects them from being left out completely. They drop to 10. If they had left them at 10 and both BYU and Bama lose...what do you do? Have Miami jump both?
I agree. Flipping Notre Dame and Bama last week gives them the most options for Bama in case of a BYU win. That's all it was. Trying to protect the SEC and particularly its most name-brand program from being the last team off the CFP list two years in a row.

A close Bama loss + BYU win lets them uphold the precedent of not dropping teams out of the playoff for losing a CCG, without having Bama jump us in a loss, which even the CFP committee would have a hard time explaining.
A bad Bama loss + BYU win, they can still slide Bama back behind us if they want to, or screw us and truly say CCGs don't matter.
A bad Bama loss + BYU loss, Notre Dame and Miami can both make the playoffs, which is probably the right outcome here.
A close Bama loss + BYU loss, Bama stays in and they choose between us and Miami for the last spot. But again, if Miami were going to be ahead of us, they would be by now. Nothing between us changes this week.

Once again, as it has been for weeks, this largely comes down to the BYU-TTU game. Today, we are all Red Raiders.
 

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If Bama loses I think they are out, if BYU loses as well I think they & Miami could be the last 2 teams in.
I tend to agree about Bama, especially if it's more than seven points. If they lose today, they'll have one win over a team with a winning record in the second half of the season (20-9 LSU), and will have cancelled out their marquee win. Not an especially impressive resume compared with drubbings that we and Miami have been handing out lately.

I don't see any way that BYU makes the field if they lose, though. They're not in it now. How would they climb? It's not like Texas Tech is THAT good that a close loss would be some huge statement.
 

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We need the committee to have conviction, basically. The easy move is to put Miami, or whoever else, in. Cave and get celebrated. That team gets bounced early because they are not championship caliber, and that’s that.

But if they put in ND, this team can very much make another run (as ND proved a year ago). ND makes a run, and nobody can ever say shit about letting us in again. The committee is then vindicated for being right.

At the end of the day, it does not make sense to award a team with a spot that has absolutely 0 chance (BYU, Miami, OU) over a team that has a very realistic chance like ND.
 

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I tend to agree about Bama, especially if it's more than seven points. If they lose today, they'll have one win over a team with a winning record in the second half of the season (20-9 LSU), and will have cancelled out their marquee win. Not an especially impressive resume compared with drubbings that we and Miami have been handing out lately.

I don't see any way that BYU makes the field if they lose, though. They're not in it now. How would they climb? It's not like Texas Tech is THAT good that a close loss would be some huge statement.
Regardless of a bad or good (by only 3-7 points) loss by Bama, a 3 loss Bama team should be left out.

If not a 2 loss BYU team than who? ND- 100% yes, Miami??
 
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