2025 College Football Playoffs

Crazy Balki

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Here's the problem and why ND is likely getting in should Georgia beat Bama and Tech beat BYU.

The committee can't have it both ways. Either they stick by their "don't punish conference title losers" logic, which in that case, BYU stays ahead of Miami, or they throw that out the window and Alabama falls behind us for having 3 losses.

You can't punish 1 team (BYU) by booting them for losing the CCG to a top 5 team and then not punish another (Bama) for doing the same.
 

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So if BYU loses by 10 and they drop, Bama also has to drop if they lose by a similar amount?

Right?
Yep.

The committee can't have it both ways. It would make no sense to drop an 11-2 team out for losing to a top 5 team, and then keep a 10-3 team the same after they also lost to a top 5 team.
 

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All of the conferences suck ass. Some suck ass more than others. But, they all get in the way of doing the thing that would be best for the outcome on the field. And, they know it. But, ESPN and Fox, to a lesser extent, enable them. Then, they hate on us for being Independent to deflect and act like we are the problem when deep down they know that they couldn't survive as an independent because they not like us.
 

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Yep.

The committee can't have it both ways. It would make no sense to drop an 11-2 team out for losing to a top 5 team, and then keep a 10-3 team the same after they also lost to a top 5 team.
The committee isn't exactly making logical decisions here.
 

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I don’t see how they can logically move Miami ahead of us without basically admitting to blatant corruption.

“The debate between ND and Bama has been heated over the past few weeks” - this tells me that ND and Bama are basically locked side by side regardless of a Bama loss this week. If Bama loses they will just flip flop the order again, and the move this week was done to protect Bama in the event of a loss. It seems like Miami is straight up out. He would’ve made some generic statement about how ND, Bama, BYU and Miami are all locked in debate.
 

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Here's the problem and why ND is likely getting in should Georgia beat Bama and Tech beat BYU.

The committee can't have it both ways. Either they stick by their "don't punish conference title losers" logic, which in that case, BYU stays ahead of Miami, or they throw that out the window and Alabama falls behind us for having 3 losses.

You can't punish 1 team (BYU) by booting them for losing the CCG to a top 5 team and then not punish another (Bama) for doing the same.
The problem is you say “you can’t” because it defies logic. The man just got on tv and said with a straight face that Alabama’s win against a 5-7 team that ended in a turnover at the 20 with 1 min left was impressive. And it just shows the absolute sec bias
 

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Here's the problem and why ND is likely getting in should Georgia beat Bama and Tech beat BYU.

The committee can't have it both ways. Either they stick by their "don't punish conference title losers" logic, which in that case, BYU stays ahead of Miami, or they throw that out the window and Alabama falls behind us for having 3 losses.

You can't punish 1 team (BYU) by booting them for losing the CCG to a top 5 team and then not punish another (Bama) for doing the same.
Why not? The chair just said that Bama needing a 4th and whatever to beat an awful Auburn team was "gutsy." It's an SEC protection racket.
 
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CFP chair Hunter Yurachek, asked if a team outside of the current projected 12-team bracket can get into the field without playing this weekend: "Yes."



CFP chair Hunter Yurachek: "We're not comparing Notre Dame and Miami side-by-side." Says the grouping has mostly been Alabama, Notre Dame, BYU and Miami, so that one H2H result is one of multiple factors at play.

They’re going to do this thing. They’re just waiting til the last possible second to keep clicks and engagement up as much as possible. This sport is broken beyond fixing
So thats an actual quote?

That’s the first thing I’ve seen that’s concerned me. I assumed judging them in the same grouping & keeping us ahead was solid.. this “side by side” is a new term & yea absolutely sets us up to be fucked.

But can they drop BYU for losing & not drop Bama for losing?
 

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So thats an actual quote?

That’s the first thing I’ve seen that’s concerned me. I assumed judging them in the same grouping & keeping us ahead was solid.. this “side by side” is a new term & yea absolutely sets us up to be fucked.

But can they drop BYU for losing & not drop Bama for losing?
Yes those were both taken from Nichole Auerbach’s Twitter, I just didn’t know how to copy the tweet
 

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Boise is going to lose because all the teams we need to win lose
Alabama is going to lose, but you can't drop a team after a loss when they beat that team earlier
BYU is going to lose, but you can drop a team after losing to the same team twice

"after being unable to compare Miami directly to ND in a one on one sense, we were finally able to do that, and H2H was what the committee thought was the fairest solution"

This setup has been unfolding for weeks fellas.
 

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Generally speaking, I don’t think the committee has any sincere belief that Miami should jump ND.

However, if BYU loses and Duke wins, the committee would be faced with the possibility that the ACC could be left out entirely. It’s possible at that point that they suddenly have a revelation that H2H should be weighed more. Miami could sneak in because the CFP committee wouldn’t want to deal with the hell that would be raised.
 

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Based on the idiotic quotes and logic I think this is the current situation; If TT and Bama wins Miami is in, ND is out. If BYU wins, both are out. If TT and UGA win, ND is 9 and Bama is 10
 

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Try to explain your thesis though. Why wouldn’t Miami be above us NOW if that was the case?

The committee has already compared us in the same grouping. We dropped below Bama bc of A&M losing & they enjoyed the Iron Bowl.

But ask yourself why Miami is still below us AND BYU..
Allow me to answer your question with a question: why didn’t they just put Alabama ahead of ND last week, before Bama looked bad against Auburn? My answer is this: the committee has an agenda which they hope will play out through game play, but in the event it doesn’t they simply move the pieces around and put some redneck chucklehead on TV to gloss it over. The committee prefers the SEC to ND and ND to Miami. But, it’s now at a point that they will simply be forced to put Miami in, so they arrange the pieces to make it appear as though it happened on the field.
 
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Generally speaking, I don’t think the committee has any sincere belief that Miami should jump ND.

However, if BYU loses and Duke wins, the committee would be faced with the possibility that the ACC could be left out entirely. It’s possible at that point that they suddenly have a revelation that H2H should be weighed more. Miami could sneak in because the CFP committee wouldn’t want to deal with the hell that would be raised.
This is exactly where my head is at. It's about ACC protection, not SEC protection. All the ACC had to do was have a reasonable tiebreaker and none of this would be an issue.
 

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Based on the idiotic quotes and logic I think this is the current situation; If TT and Bama wins Miami is in, ND is out. If BYU wins, both are out. If TT and UGA win, ND is 9 and Bama is 10
If Texas Tech and Bama wins there may be a little shuffling at the top of the order but has nothing to do with Notre Dame everything should stay put for ND at 10
 

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Yeah the more I think about it, the more I am sure that ND is out almost regardless. This hope was all for TV views on the selection show.
 
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