2025 College Football Playoffs

MPClinton22

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If Bama loses they can flip them again to avoid rematches.
This is what I'm sort of talking myself into now - moving Bama was to make sure they could flip us back if Bama loses and keep us both in, especially after the comments re: the Bama/ND comparison. And the "idle teams can move" comment was to preface us moving back up w/ a Bama loss. Maybe?
 

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Only positive spin I can put on Yuracheck's comments re: Bama/ND is that maybe the committee puts us at 9 and Bama at 10 again if they lose in the SECCCG.
That’s exactly what I think is happening. If they win we stay at 10. That way if Bama loses they can move them back 1 spot and still make it in. I think it’s all about protecting Bama. They aren't flipping us and Miami they would have already done it.
 

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This is what I'm sort of talking myself into now - moving Bama was to make sure they could flip us back if Bama loses and keep us both in, especially after the comments re: the Bama/ND comparison. And the "idle teams can move" comment was to preface us moving back up w/ a Bama loss. Maybe?
Exactly my thoughts
 

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I understand that, but it would be with no new evidence that we are suddenly no longer better than Miami. If the belief is Miami is better than us, just do it this week. To swap us when neither played will be insane.

If the "pod" seeding is true, the current grouping is Bama - ND - BYU - Miami. BYU loses, Miami doesn't suddenly jump up above us in that grouping because our respective quality hasn't changed, only BYUs. BYU just falls behind Miami (if that - CCG results aren't really supposed to ding teams)
That makes a ton of sense. But Alabama played a close game vs. an unranked, coachless team and jumped ahead of ND. What was the new evidence for such a switch? On the other hand, if Miami is one place behind ND, assuming BYU loses, Miami would fall right behind us and then, head to head could matter and result in a switch. Can you imagine the outrage if ND is the last team in the playoffs right ahead of Miami?
 

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That makes a ton of sense. But Alabama played a close game vs. an unranked, coachless team and jumped ahead of ND. What was the new evidence for such a switch? On the other hand, if Miami is one place behind ND, assuming BYU loses, Miami would fall right behind us and then, head to head could matter and result in a switch.
I think they knew they could say "Bama won a rivalry game AT Jordan Hare, that's a big result and ND/Bama were already close, so Bama got the nod" PLUS the A&M loss (which incredibly they didn't mention even though it was low hanging fruit)

They really just want to protect Alabama, especially after they were the ones that got left out by SMU last year.
 

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Regardless of the results, I think we can all agree this system sucks.

The ACC is a big part in this. There’s little controversy right now if they didn’t let Virginia play an “out of conference” game against NC State, and if they didn’t have totally antiquated tie breakers.

Burn that stupid conference to the ground
 

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I'm still just stuck on, why not just jump Miami over us this week? Miami looked dominant against Pitt in a high stakes away game. Why wait until we're both idle? BYU was always win and in, so it doesn't matter their relative ranking. I just think waiting to make the swap when we're both idle would be opening them up to way more criticism than doing it this week.
My answer to that is this: why didn’t they just flip ND and Alabama last week? Why didn’t they wait for Bama to look bad against Auburn. To me, the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that they have an agenda, but they do not enforce it until they absolutely have to. They want ND in, but they are now in a position where they will have to swap them out in all likelihood.
 

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The ACC is a big part in this. There’s little controversy right now if they didn’t let Virginia play an “out of conference” game against NC State, and if they didn’t have totally antiquated tie breakers.

Burn that stupid conference to the ground
The autobids are the worst offender, I think.

For example, if BYU wins the Big 12 and Duke wins the ACC, we could have two G5 teams in the playoff by default over both ND AND Miami, not to mention others such as Vanderbilt or even Texas. Insanely stupid system.
 

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The ACC is a big part in this. There’s little controversy right now if they didn’t let Virginia play an “out of conference” game against NC State, and if they didn’t have totally antiquated tie breakers.

Burn that stupid conference to the ground
That's right. ND needs to push aggressively on this and other fronts. Regardless of what happens. Maybe it won't matter, but both ND and Miami should be in, imo. That isn't possible, in part, because of the ACC's bizarre rules.
 

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Just did an emotional hedge and bet on us to miss playoffs. Hope I’m wrong. I’d rather we get in, but at least will win $1000 if we don’t.
 

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Reality is there are like 5 possible outcomes and the committee will make up a justification to go with it. MOST of the outcomes still have ND in IMO. The only for sure outcome we know is BYU and Alabama both winning is bad. Everything else is making sense of a nonsense process
 

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Disclaimer: There are no rules and they will just do what they want, BUT

- If the committee once again does not punish conference championship losses, ND is in with a BYU loss

- If the committee punishes conference championship losses, ND is in with a Alabama loss

- Where they could land in the really fucked scenario is they don’t punish Alabama for losing but punish BYU and then arbitrarily flip ND and Miami after saying for 2 months they aren’t comparable
This is what they are going to do. They've been lying the whole time.

People calling us "bedwetters" for seeing this scenario in advance because "well, it just doesn't make sense for the committee to do that", or "the committee just said they compared us", or insert all the other excuses.

You know what else doesn't make fucking sense? Us not being above Oklahoma because they have some fake ass hard schedule due to over ranking Missouri, Ole Miss, and Tennessee; Alabama jumping us because wait for it... over ranking Missouri and Tennessee; Ole Miss fucking moving up some how, oh I think it's because of those one score wins over Kentucky, Arkansas, and Washington State.

They've been setting it up all along for ND and Miami to be back to back. And when it happens, all the silly little metrics about game control, our losses are better than their losses, and whatever else are all going to magically go away for the one thing that matters most, H2H.
 

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CFP chair Hunter Yurachek, asked if a team outside of the current projected 12-team bracket can get into the field without playing this weekend: "Yes."



CFP chair Hunter Yurachek: "We're not comparing Notre Dame and Miami side-by-side." Says the grouping has mostly been Alabama, Notre Dame, BYU and Miami, so that one H2H result is one of multiple factors at play.

They’re going to do this thing. They’re just waiting til the last possible second to keep clicks and engagement up as much as possible. This sport is broken beyond fixing
 

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So if BYU loses by 10 and they drop, Bama also has to drop if they lose by a similar amount?

Right?
 
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