2025 College Football Playoffs

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FWIW, my morning newsletter from The Athletic was basically like: No way Miami jumps Notre Dame after yesterday. Miami only beat Syracuse by 28!
Another good comp next week w/Pitt would help make that case even more.
 
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I was cheering for both Utah and BYU yesterday (after fUSC blew it) at keep three teams between ND and Miami. I'm hopeful that the committee moves Vandy to 13 this week after a bad showing by Miami. If Alabama wins the SEC Championship, it likely moves to #9. Utah likely isn't playing in the Big12 Championship and has Kansas left, as long as Utah wins next week, they should stay behind ND (and not sure how Miami the committee moves Miami in front of Utah. The winner of the Big12 Championship (BYU / TX Tech) likely is in front of ND. This scenero would have ND 10, Utah 11 and Miami 12 after the conference championship weekend.

I'm still not sure how winning 10 in a row and blowing the doors off the opponents doesn't show ND belongs. If the committee compares Miami to ND with a "Who Can Win the National Championship - who can win 4 games", I don't know how Miami gets in ahead of ND.

But to make matter simple, how about Pitt beats Miami next Saturday. Fan Duel has Miami 6.5 point favorites. The weather looks OK, but a high of 36 degrees.
 
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Green Mountains said:
I was cheering for both Utah and BYU yesterday (after fUSC blew it) at keep three teams between ND and Miami. I'm hopeful that the committee moves Vandy to 13 this week after a bad showing by Miami. If Alabama wins the SEC Championship, it likely moves to #9. Utah likely isn't playing in the Big12 Championship and has Kansas left, as long as Utah wins next week, they should stay behind ND (and not sure how Miami the committee moves Miami in front of Utah. The winner of the Big12 Championship (BYU / TX Tech) likely is in front of ND. This scenero would have ND 10, Utah 11 and Miami 12 after the conference championship weekend.

I'm still not sure how winning 10 in a row and blowing the doors off the opponents doesn't show ND belongs. If the committee compares Miami to ND with a "Who Can Win the National Championship - who can win 4 games", I don't know how Miami gets in ahead of ND.

But to make matter simple, how about Pitt beats Miami next Saturday. Fan Duel has Miami 6.5 point favorites. The weather looks OK, but a high of 36 degrees.
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Irishcop said:
Exactly!!!!!
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They are having the typical SEC 8-4 season. Schedule 4 OOC wins, beat the bottom 4 in your conference and then lose to every decent team you play. Those are the teams that really bring about the SEC ire. I can always give credit to the teams at the top of the SEC, it’s the mediocre teams that get propped up just because they are in the conference.
 
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Green Mountains said:
I was cheering for both Utah and BYU yesterday (after fUSC blew it) at keep three teams between ND and Miami. I'm hopeful that the committee moves Vandy to 13 this week after a bad showing by Miami. If Alabama wins the SEC Championship, it likely moves to #9. Utah likely isn't playing in the Big12 Championship and has Kansas left, as long as Utah wins next week, they should stay behind ND (and not sure how Miami the committee moves Miami in front of Utah. The winner of the Big12 Championship (BYU / TX Tech) likely is in front of ND. This scenero would have ND 10, Utah 11 and Miami 12 after the conference championship weekend.

I'm still not sure how winning 10 in a row and blowing the doors off the opponents doesn't show ND belongs. If the committee compares Miami to ND with a "Who Can Win the National Championship - who can win 4 games", I don't know how Miami gets in ahead of ND.

But to make matter simple, how about Pitt beats Miami next Saturday. Fan Duel has Miami 6.5 point favorites. The weather looks OK, but a high of 36 degrees.
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I really do not think Miami is the concern anymore. If ND gets left out it will be because TT loses the Big 12 title game and Alabama wins the SEC. If that happens, there is a good chance we are left out unless the committee moves us ahead of Oklahoma.
 
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Is it confirmed where the winner of the 8-9 game would play the presumed number 1 seed Ohio State in the quarters?
I believe it would be the cotton bowl, but not entirely 100% sure.

That would be less than ideal.
Do not want to play Ohio State and those receivers in an indoor setting again with no elements if it’s gets there.
Rose Bowl or Miami Gardens gives us a way better chance, and for our run game to be the difference in an upset victory.

Long way to go, but somehow slotting into that 7-10 game over 8-9 looks like a way easier path.
Especially if Georgia who I think is the second best team in the country right now is looking like the possible #5 seed.

We’re likely going to need some chaos above next week to get the #7
More likely option would be for us to get leap frogged and end up in the #10
 
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CTIDANDREW said:
Is it confirmed where the winner of the 8-9 game would play the presumed number 1 seed Ohio State in the quarters?
I believe it would be the cotton bowl, but not entirely 100% sure.

That would be less than ideal.
Do not want to play Ohio State and those receivers in an indoor setting again with no elements if it’s gets there.
Rose Bowl or Miami Gardens gives us a way better chance, and for our run game to be the difference in an upset victory.

Long way to go, but somehow slotting into that 7-10 game over 8-9 looks like a way easier path.
Especially if Georgia who I think is the second best team in the country right now looking like the possible #5 seed.

We’re likely going to need some chaos above next week to get the #7
More likely option would be for us to get leap frogged and end up in the #10
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Isn't that effectively every playoff venue after the home games? I know they aren't indoors, but it isn't going to be snowing or something in the Rose Bowl or Miami. And wouldn't we be playing OSU in the Rose Bowl in that scenario?

Either OSU is some unbeatable juggernaut, or they aren't. If they are, then we probably won't beat them. Nor would anyone else. So it wouldn't matter when we play them. If they aren't, and other teams could beat them before we would have to play them, then presumably we can beat them, too.
 
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IrishTusker said:
Isn't that effectively every playoff venue after the home games? I know they aren't indoors, but it isn't going to be snowing or something in the Rose Bowl or Miami. And wouldn't we be playing OSU in the Rose Bowl in that scenario?

Either OSU is some unbeatable juggernaut, or they aren't. If they are, then we probably won't beat them. Nor would anyone else. So it wouldn't matter when we play them. If they aren't, and other teams could beat them before we would have to play them, then presumably we can beat them, too.
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I’d rather play Ohio State and thier two world class receivers in an outdoor setting 100 times out of 100.

Miami Gardens could have wind and rain involved.
Remember the Colts vs Bears Super Bowl for example.

Rose Bowl could be 50 degrees and windy weather as well.

Playing Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate on a fast track with no wind or possible rain to slow them down is no bueno.

Just my two cents.
 
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Welp, I missed yesterday's game because I was banking on a home playoff game. Guessing that doesn't happen now. This season just isn't giving us the correct chaos.
 
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peadeam said:
I think Cal had three fumbles and one was a scoop and score
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Correct. Stanford didn’t have to generate much offense b/c the D did all the heavy lifting. I hate losing KVA but the way the D has been playing, they should feast if they come ready to play. Stanford is 4-1 at home this season & winless on the road.
 
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pumpdog20 said:
Welp, I missed yesterday's game because I was banking on a home playoff game. Guessing that doesn't happen now. This season just isn't giving us the correct chaos.
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I am excited that we’ll be in the playoffs again, yes it sucks that we most likely won’t host a playoff game but you have to do it yourself. Win every game.

If you rely on others you only get disappointed
 
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Im thinking I want to play OSU when we are healthy.. so the earlier the better IMO.. would hate to play them and are secondary is banged up... that would be an nightmare
 
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I guess some people love misery. We will be in the playoffs. Now where we will be is up in the air but being there is not.
As long as we take care of business against Stanford, the committee is not leaving us out.
All these contortions that some here are going through is pathetic
Winning ten games in a row and looking impressive in virtually all of them, looking stronger as the season has gone along, is exactly what the committee is looking for. Those saying otherwise are morons
 
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NDPhilly said:


Miami fans are crashing out ab the framing of their win lol
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The whiniest, most mentally fragile fanbase in CFB. They also have a way of mythologizing all of their wins. They've created this social media narrative that the ND game was a "blowout with a misleading final score." They're spinning this game like it was 37-3 and VT scored a couple of cheap TDs at the very end. They're also pretending to not understand that "style points" matter and have mattered in CFB for a long, long time.

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Realizing All of Big 12 teams that we are supposed to respect played absolute dog shit OOC. Have to think this is a league wide strategy now with 9 conference games to just have teams rack up wins and hope a 10 or 11 win team that might actually be a pretender can sneak in as an at large. I

They also generally don’t have a lot of recruiting talent - The highest rated team is TT at 29 in the 247 team talent composite. Kentucky and Arkansas would be the most “talented” teams in the B12. We’re supposed to believe these teams are totally outperforming in ways everyone else around them talent wise (outside of IU) can’t?

OOC games among Top B12 teams:
Texas Tech - 0 P4 OOC games.
BYU - W v Stanford
Utah - W v UCLA
ASU - L at Miss State
Houston - O P4 OOC games

Abysmal - Most of these teams haven’t played a roster that’s even in the top 25 of the 247 talent composite either. How are we supposed to assume that they’d match up well against the other playoff contenders? We truly have no way of knowing.

The metrics love TT and Utah which is doing a ton of heavy lifting for them, but I’m skeptical that they can properly rate them there’s so little crossover wifh other playoff contenders.
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It does appear to be the strategy because BYU fans keep pointing to how many 7+ win teams they've beaten. They continue to do this without any context such as what you provided of course, because they're trying to generate a narrative.

So take note crying Miami and Texas fans who think the lesson learned this year is to schedule cupcake OOCs, you'll end up like BYU and Utah.

It's also hilarious, since we were speaking of Miami fans, how now they're trying to beat their chest that SMU is a "quality loss," because of their blowout win over Louisville. The only problem for them is that Louisville also beat Miami.


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I'm waiting for the ACC X post

"Syracuse out possessed ND 44 minutes to 16 minutes. The score was not indictive of how close the game was."
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Team A: 44 Minutes TOP. 80 offensive plays! Went on a clutch game closing 5:30 drive to score the game's final points!

Team B: 16 Minutes TOP. Only 39 offensive plays. Defensive lapses caused them to give up points in the 4th quarter.
 
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