Stanford postgame

GowerND11

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It felt a little too cute by Bachmeier, to be honest. The ball itself was in bounds and had basically stopped moving. Then he intentionally went and put his foot out of bounds before touching it because apparently if a kick returner catches the ball out of bounds it counts as an out-of-bounds kick?
I guess he was technically correct but that's really not at all the spirit of the out-of-bounds kickoff rule, and it may well be the refs decided to call bullshit on this one. I don't mind.
They didn't call bullshit. It hit his foot first which invalidates the attempt.
 

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It touched his foot.
Watch the ref directly next to him.
He is staring down at the ball, then the ball rolls towards Bachmeijer’s foot & changes it’s roll, the official immediately makes the “start the clock” signal with his arm (winding it in the air).
The clock doesn’t start until the ball is touched. So the official winding the clock means he saw the ball touch his foot.
Replay can’t overturn that unless it clearly shows otherwise, which it didn’t.
Stanford’s coach in the post game presser said the official told him he saw it touch his foot, so it was the right call.
I don't know for sure if he actually touched the ball, but as you said, the official obviously thought he did. The official was clearly shown winding the clock.
 

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It felt a little too cute by Bachmeier, to be honest. The ball itself was in bounds and had basically stopped moving. Then he intentionally went and put his foot out of bounds before touching it because apparently if a kick returner catches the ball out of bounds it counts as an out-of-bounds kick?
I guess he was technically correct but that's really not at all the spirit of the out-of-bounds kickoff rule, and it may well be the refs decided to call bullshit on this one. I don't mind.
I mean you cant really just call bullshit on a rule. It was a smart play that should have resulted in the ball at the 35. Dont like it, dont kick the ball within 18 inches of the sideline.
 

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I mean you cant really just call bullshit on a rule. It was a smart play that should have resulted in the ball at the 35. Dont like it, dont kick the ball within 18 inches of the sideline.
No, it should have been marked where it was because it touched his foot first, which also is a rule. And he has to be smart enough to stay completely away from it, we’ll say 18 inches, and wait.
 

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It touched his foot.
Watch the ref directly next to him.
He is staring down at the ball, then the ball rolls towards Bachmeijer’s foot & changes it’s roll, the official immediately makes the “start the clock” signal with his arm (winding it in the air).
The clock doesn’t start until the ball is touched. So the official winding the clock means he saw the ball touch his foot.
Replay can’t overturn that unless it clearly shows otherwise, which it didn’t.
Stanford’s coach in the post game presser said the official told him he saw it touch his foot, so it was the right call.

Sidenote: The official “experts” on NBC, like Matt Austin, are wrong as much as they are correct. There are videos you can look up where other officials will pull out rule books & break down how he & others are wrong about rules. For instance, in the example above, the “expert” didn’t think that the ball might have touched the player & didn’t notice the official signal that it did touch him in real time?
My favorites were when both Mike Tirico & Doug Flutie called him out in the same season against the Virginia teams.
When VT had a huge INT called back because the DL jumped offside, & Austin said he wouldn’t call it, that he would give him a warning first. And Flutie responded “or you could just make the correct call, and then tell him to line up onsides the next time.” LOL
And when ND sacked the UVA QB & it was an obvious fumble, and replay confirmed it, Austin said he wouldn’t call it because the ball wasn’t moving enough for him on the way down. And Tirico made the reply that if it’s moving at all, it’s a fumble, and he and the replay booth both agree it was moving & was a fumble.
Matt Austin is good for at least one blunder a game. He wasn’t a good official when he was in the field. And it shows in the booth.
Funny you said that b/c I saw it when re-watching the game & youre right…ref had direct view & immediately started winding clock at a point where Bachmeier was dancing around the ball which indicated that ref saw his foot come into contact w/ the ball.

Imagine if it was still David Shaw? He’d still be crying about it.
 

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Funny you said that b/c I saw it when re-watching the game & youre right…ref had direct view & immediately started winding clock at a point where Bachmeier was dancing around the ball which indicated that ref saw his foot come into contact w/ the ball.

Imagine if it was still David Shaw? He’d still be crying about it.
The worst thing about him being gone - he won the last game, this will haunt me forever
 

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Why did Stanford hire Luck? Did nobody else want the job?
I'd take the job, I would not have any problem firing people.
Or setting fire to every costumed conifer I ran into.

I would give the Stanford fan a promotion to a better seat. That guy has potential.
 

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Texas Tech? Must be $$. They’re not exactly producing NFL DLine players in great numbers
 

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He must not like winning anything worth while lol. Hope the money was good.
 

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Oil money.
Oil women.
Hot, dusty, miserable oil weather.

I would've stayed at Stanford.
If Landman has taught me anything it’s that in West Texas even a guy who looks like Billy Bob Thornton can pull an Ali Larter.
 

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Well ND did try extremely hard to get their GM so he’s obviously good at his job if he can pull Bailey from Palo Alto to West Texas. Surely he had other suitors that were ponying up some big bucks as well.
 
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