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Steve

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ok so today i was playing bball. and the guy i was defending went up for a shot and naturally i jumped up to contest it. well i landed on his foot and i felt a little pop in my knee. it killed and i limped off of the court. i iced it for a while and the pain went away. it's a little tender to walk on. the pain is on the inside of my knee. any idea of what happened? i'm probably gonna go see a doc, but i'd like to have an idea of what it is first.
 

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Could be some cartlidge but a doctor would be best. Most PT's can do the simple test to see if you tore any ligaments. I would keep ice on it to keep down the swelling and elevate it. If it does not feel like it will give out then you should be ok. I usually wait a week before going to the doctor to see if rest and ice cannot fix it. Most would not take that advice. Did he make the shot?
 

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Given that you heard a pop I'd go with a Meniscus tear. It's probably just the start of one if it's never happend before, but I'd definately get it checked out. As long as it doesn't tear too much it'll heal with a little bit of rehab and some adjustments, but if it tears too far then it requires sugery.

Information about a meniscus tear (torn cartilage)

What is a meniscus?
There are two menisci in your knee; each rests between the thigh bone (femur) and shin bone (tibia). The menisci are made of tough cartilage and conform to the surfaces of the bones upon which they rest. One meniscus is on the inside of your knee; this is the medial meniscus. The other meniscus rests on the outside of your knee, the lateral meniscus.

What does the meniscus do?
These meniscus functions to distribute your body weight across the knee joint. Without the meniscus present, the weight of your body would be unevenly applied to the bones in your legs (the femur and tibia). This uneven weight distribution would cause excessive forces in specific areas of bone leading to early arthritis of knee joint. Therefore, the function of the meniscus is critical to the health of your knee.

How does the meniscus work?
The knee joint is very important in allowing people to go about performing almost any activity. The joint is made up of three bones: the femur (thigh bone), the tibia (shin bone), and the patella (knee cap). The surfaces of these bones within the joint are covered with a layer of cartilage. This important surface allows the bones to smoothly glide against each other without causing damage to the bone. The meniscus sits between the cartilage surfaces of the bone to distribute weight and to improve the stability of the joint.

What is knee cartilage? Is it the meniscus or the ends of the bone?
Both the covering of the bone within the joint and the meniscus are made of cartilage--this makes the issue a little confusing. People often say 'cartilage' to mean the meniscus (the wedges of cartilage between the bone) or to mean the joint surface (so-called articular cartilage which caps the ends of the bone).

When people talk about a cartilage tear, they a talking about a meniscus tear. When people talk about arthritis and wear of cartilage, they are talking most often about the articular cartilage on the ends of the bone. Hopefully that clears up some of the confusion.

The meniscus is C-shaped and has a wedged profile. The wedged profile maintains the stability of the joint by keeping the rounded femur surface from sliding off the flat tibial surface. The meniscus is nourished by small blood vessels, but the meniscus also has a large area in the center of that has no direct blood supply (avascular). This presents a problem when there is an injury to the meniscus as the avascular areas tend not to heal. Without the essential nutrients supplied by blood vessels, healing cannot take place.

What happens with a meniscus tear (torn cartilage)?
The two most common causes of a meniscus tear are due to traumatic injury (often seen in athletes) and degenerative processes (seen in older patients who have more brittle cartilage). The most common mechanism of a traumatic meniscus tear occurs when the knee joint is bent and the knee is then twisted.

It is not uncommon for the meniscus tear to occur along with injuries to the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) and the medial collateral ligament (MCL)-these three problems occurring together are known as the "unhappy triad," which is seen in sports such as football when the player is hit on the outside of the knee.

What are the symptoms of a meniscus tear?
Individuals who experience a meniscus tear usually experience pain and swelling as their primary symptoms. Another common complaint is joint locking, or the inability to completely straighten the joint. This is due to a piece of the torn cartilage physically impinging the joint mechanism of the knee.

The most common symptoms of a meniscus tear are:

Knee pain
Swelling of the knee
Tenderness when pressing on the meniscus
Popping or clicking within the knee
Limited motion of the knee joint
How is the diagnosis of a meniscus tear made?
Any patient who has knee pain will be evaluated for a possible meniscus tear. A careful history and physical examination can help differentiate patients who have a meniscus tear from patients with knee pain from other conditions. Specific tests can be performed by your doctor to detect meniscus tears.

X-rays and MRIs are the two tests commonly used in patients who have meniscus tears. An x-ray can be used to determine if there is evidence of degenerative or arthritic changes to the knee joint. The MRI is helpful at actually visualizing the meniscus. However, simply 'seeing' a torn meniscus on MRI does not mean a specific treatment is needed. Treatment of meniscus tears depends on several factors, as not all meniscus tears require surgery.
 

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One more thing, if that's what it is then I'd try to find a sports chiropractor. He'll make sure your knee is set correctly so it'll heal right, where more traditional doctors don't often do that.
 
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Could be some cartlidge but a doctor would be best. Most PT's can do the simple test to see if you tore any ligaments. I would keep ice on it to keep down the swelling and elevate it. If it does not feel like it will give out then you should be ok. I usually wait a week before going to the doctor to see if rest and ice cannot fix it. Most would not take that advice. Did he make the shot?


lol man. he did make the shot. salt on the wounds. actually, today sucked. i mess up my knee and the kid still makes the shot. i had stepped in dog crap on the way into the gym and the crap got all over my bag. jesus.
 

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lol man. he did make the shot. salt on the wounds. actually, today sucked. i mess up my knee and the kid still makes the shot. i had stepped in dog crap on the way into the gym and the crap got all over my bag. jesus.

That is just terrible, next time you are going to get hurt foul the guy to help your team. Don't listen to these people doctors have no clue, ice it tonight and get out there and play again tomorrow.
 

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actually. i tried to take some shots and take a job in between their games and i was still strokin the 3 ball, but my knee was a little too tender. i'm a gamer lol.
 
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based on my knowledge from my two semesters of PT school I'd say best bet would be meniscus or cartilage, you'd be in more pain if it was your MCL.
 

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If I felt it I bet I could tell you what it is. I've almost gotten to the point that I've had enough injuries (especially knee) that I can walk into their office and tell them what's wrong. :sigh:
 
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well i have blown out both of my knees and it sounds like an ACL. I have torn both of my ACL's, and it kills for 5 mins, then then you can walk again. I hope that's not what it is, but chances are, it is
 

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You can still walk around with a torn meniscus too. It just still feels pretty sore and you can't really extend it all the way like you need to.
 

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Well...

That could either be really good, or really, really bad. I'd definately go check it out though as soon as possible. In my experiences pops usually equal tears, but if you can fully and easily extend it then I wound't think that it's a meniscus tear but then, I'm doing this over the internet so who knows.

Does it still bend back and forth pretty easily?
 

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well i have blown out both of my knees and it sounds like an ACL. I have torn both of my ACL's, and it kills for 5 mins, then then you can walk again. I hope that's not what it is, but chances are, it is

When I tore my ACL a few years ago, I heard the exact same "Pop" followed by intense pain for about 3-4 minutes....after that everything seemed normal and I was up walking again. Just a few months ago I was playing basketball and felt that same sharp pain but didn't hear the pop...turns out I just sprained my MCL that time. The biggest difference between the two (besides the pop) is the swelling. If your knee started to swell up, then you probably tore something...when I sprained my MCL, it was sore, but almost no swelling occurred. Either way, if you heard a pop, you did something that at best requires some rehab or doctor's care (like my MCL). Think of it this way: if it wasn't a tear and you get it checked out, then so what. If it was a tear and you don't get it checked out, you could be in deep sh** and really mess up your knees so you never play anything again. ACL's can be repaired and you can come back almost 100% (depending on your age). If you end up tearing up more stuff by not getting the ACL fixed, you could be limping like an old man before you're 40.

Just my thoughts.
 

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I agree w/ Alaska. I've had three surgeries on my right knee. I'm on my 3rd ACL. At this point, get an appt. w/ an orthopod. You got insurance coverage?

If you know a PT, they can do a maneuver w/ your knee & pretty much tell if it's a ligament or cartilage. If your knee ends up "catching" or "locking up", my guess would be loose cartilage. If your knee buckles & does not give you the support it's supposed to, my guess would be a partial or complete tear of your ligament...that's when Xrays or an MRI come in handy.

If you need surgery, it's not near as big a deal as in the past. If you only need to get scoped, you'll be on your feet in no time. If you need a new ligament, it can still be done laproscopically on an out-patient basis. I had my first ACL repaired in the early 90s & my second repair about 12 years later. Talk about improvement. The first one required a hospital stay; the second one, I was home that afternoon w/ rehab the next day.

Lastly, if you require surgery & you have insurance coverage, look at the bright side: your about to meet your deductible for the year!

Good luck. I'm guessing you're young, so get it fixed ASAP & you'll bounce back fast.
 
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