'08 OR DE Ethan Johnson (Signed LOI to ND)

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from ann arbor says it all for me....

What does it say?

I was on Rivals and saw an article that says "it's refreshing that Ethan Johnson said that academics is important and he meant it" and then I hop over here and read the same sentence almost word for word.

I don't know how many times I see an idea from domerdomain mirrored on this board by a different person without attribution. I don't mind seeing the same stuff repeated, I just wish people would give credit sometimes.

I guess none of our ideas are very original unless we're blessed to be on campus talking to the players or coaches or something. It's all coming 2nd or third hand. I'll apologize if I got it wrong, it was just weird timing seeing the Rivals article right before the IrishEnvy post with almost the same exact wording.

BTW, Ann Arbor is a fine place to live, except for all those ugly yellow Ms all over the place. Plus you get funny looks when you wear your ND stuff.
 

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The issue here is you are calling him out when he is posting a subjective statement about what he liked in a recruit.

Do you like football, music, family and friends, a good beer, or life? I hope not because I like those already. And any mention of those in the future will have to be accreditted to me.
 
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The issue here is you are calling him out when he is posting a subjective statement about what he liked in a recruit.

That's not why I called him out at all. Why would I do that? It looked like almost a direct quote.
 

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The issue here is you are calling him out when he is posting a subjective statement about what he liked in a recruit.

Do you like football, music, family and friends, a good beer, or life? I hope not because I like those already. And any mention of those in the future will have to be accreditted to me.

Actually the issue was if he was expressing his own thoughts, or quoting someone else without giving credit. This is a reasonable question.
 

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Now thats true. Finding something good in Ann Arbor is like finding a good steak in Iran. Very rare

Wouldn't this be better with finding a good steak in New Delhi or a good rib house in Iran. They do eat beef in Iran, so you might just find a good steak there. But you wouldn't find pork since Islamic law is in effect. Similarly, you might struggle to find a good steak in India, as beef is a forbidden food for Hindus. However, because India is a secular state, finding beef available is not out of the question.

As for the thread on this young man, the quotes attributed to him lead me to believe that his character will definitely fit the model coach Weis would like his team members to have. This makes me quite happy he has given his verbal commitment to Notre Dame.
 
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As for the thread on this young man, the quotes attributed to him lead me to believe that his character will definitely fit the model coach Weis would like his team members to have. This makes me quite happy he has given his verbal commitment to Notre Dame.

Nasty and mean on the field, role models off it. He does certainly seem to be both.
 

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It is common information that Johnson stressed academics during his recruitment. And common knowledge that he committed to Notre Dame citing reasons that included academics. And common knowledge that many recruits list academics as their priority without substantiating that by choosing a academic school.

You're concluding that someone is too mind numbingly stupid to put two and two together and say, 'Hey, a lot of recruits say a lot of things, but for Johnson, he meant what he said?' That they don't have the capacity enough to conjure that up on their own but must resort to reading a teaser line of an article on the internet?

The quote in question and the line given in the article aren't even word for word.
What's refreshing is that when he said it would come down to academics, he meant it. Nice....

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It's common for top prospects to talk about the importance of academics. Count Ethan Johnson among the few that actually mean it.

Am I missing something or are there are only 4 words shared with all of them being that, it, to, and academics.

What the poster said was common sense. And I just don't see how anyone could have exclusive rights to report or be credited for common sense. That's just too far of a stretch for me and an insult to the poster's intelligence assuming that he can't think that up himself.
 

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Actually the issue was if he was expressing his own thoughts, or quoting someone else without giving credit. This is a reasonable question.

It's a pretty awful reach, if you look at the two quotes in question, to say that the poster 'stole' someone else's thought. The information in question is just common sense and deductive reasoning. And nobody has the right to be credited for that kind of thing.
 

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Wouldn't this be better with finding a good steak in New Delhi or a good rib house in Iran. They do eat beef in Iran, so you might just find a good steak there. But you wouldn't find pork since Islamic law is in effect. Similarly, you might struggle to find a good steak in India, as beef is a forbidden food for Hindus. However, because India is a secular state, finding beef available is not out of the question.

As for the thread on this young man, the quotes attributed to him lead me to believe that his character will definitely fit the model coach Weis would like his team members to have. This makes me quite happy he has given his verbal commitment to Notre Dame.

Whatever...steak / pork......its not like they have a Sizzler over there or anything.
 
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I apologize for my post not being very original. Thanks KNUTE.

Okay. Uncle! I give. My post was irrational, bordering on idiocy. But still ... bold, caps and underline ... that's harsh, man!
 

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no one has posted anything about this guy since july, so i gotta give him a post and say he is a beast!
 

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Big-time aspirations

At 6-foot-5, 270 pounds, Lincoln defensive end Ethan Johnson likes his football and studies

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BRAD SCHMIDT
The Oregonian Staff

Ethan Johnson is living the dream.

You know the vision, the one kids act out on the streets and ballparks across the country: swishing the decisive basket, driving in the game-winning run, making the touchdown-saving tackle.

It starts with an aspiration toward greatness, grows to accomplishments on the field and, if you're one of the truly blessed and your athletic ability and determination cooperate, carries you from youth sports to high school, college and perhaps beyond.

"Most guys at school are just like, 'Yeah, I wish I could have that dream,' " said Johnson, a 6-foot-5, 270-pound defensive end. "It's still real for me. I still have that dream. And until something happens, I'm going to keep shooting for it."

Johnson's dream continues this year, his senior season, as he strives to lead Portland's Lincoln High School to a Class 6A football championship. This time next year, he plans to be at Notre Dame, where he hopes to start as a freshman. And if all goes as planned -- or dreamed -- he'll be selected in the first round of the NFL draft, go on to have a successful professional career, make lots of money and invest wisely.

Considered one of Oregon's top defensive linemen this decade, Johnson blends a rare combination of strength and speed that prompted Oregon and Oregon State to informally offer him scholarships after his sophomore season. He is ranked by Rivals.com as the top high school senior in the Pacific Northwest and the 31st-best prospect in the nation. Coaches expect him to rank alongside Ndamukong Suh (a 2005 Grant graduate at Nebraska) and Myles Wade (a 2007 Central Catholic graduate who signed with Oregon and is at a junior college to become eligible for the Ducks) as one of the top prep defensive lineman to come out of the state recently.

And Johnson is committed to getting better.

"He could be the best one that's ever played (high school) in our state," said Lincoln coach Chad Carlson, who is quick to note Johnson's humility. "He's not that type of guy looking for the spotlight all the time. He's a team player, an academic player."

That academic focus influenced Johnson's planning. In June, when he visited Michigan and Notre Dame -- the finalists out of dozens of interested schools -- he came prepared with questions for the things he couldn't find answers to.

He thought about the graduation rates of athletes (at Notre Dame it's 98 percent, Michigan 87 percent). He wants to study business and wondered how far the schools are from where he would be staying and from the football facilities. He wanted to know how many other football players were studying business.


"If you're killing on the football field but none of your football players are graduating, why do I want to go to that school?" said Johnson, who for the past two summers interned at the Portland law firm Stahancyk, Kent, Johnson & Hook. "It's a school. You go 'cause you want to get an education first."

At Michigan, he found out there was one other player in the business program.

"And he was the punter," Johnson said, laughing. "Is there anything else I can say about that?"


In the end, Johnson found himself in the front passenger seat of a rental car, done with football camps and en route to a family vacation in Canada. He listened to his iPod and stared at the Midwest scenery, sometimes talking with his grandparents and younger brother, who made the trip with him.

Notre Dame had "the best of both worlds," Johnson decided, and he called his mom and dad, then coach Charlie Weis to give his oral commitment.

With his college decision out of the way, Johnson's focus is back on Cardinals football. This year, he's moving to defensive end -- the position he is expected to play in college -- after playing defensive tackle his sophomore and junior seasons (when he had 24 combined sacks). In Johnson's two seasons on varsity, Lincoln has a 21-3 record, and he said the team's new 3-4 defense this season "is going to be killin'."

"Whoever is in front of me, I feel bad for," he said. "I just expect to dominate the person in front of me."

Of course, Johnson gives credit where it's due, and much can be directed to Lincoln defensive line coach Shawn Price. A former NFL player, Price used hard work and know-how to become a utilityman on the defensive line, playing for four teams in 10 seasons.

Price has been at Lincoln every step of Johnson's way, teaching him invaluable psychological lessons and technical tricks of the game.

"I was the hard worker. I was undersized. I wasn't the fastest. I didn't have all the athletic abilities he has," Price said of Johnson, who also plays basketball and competes in field events for Lincoln's track team. "I've been able to teach that to Ethan, and he's been able to take it and understand it and turn around and use it on the field."

One of four children of athletic parents, Johnson realizes his gifts. And his coaches note Johnson's work ethic in bringing out the best of those abilities.

"I don't understand if you're 15 or 16 and all these people are telling you you're great, or you have all these things and you just kind of stop working," Johnson said. "Like, that's the worst thing you can do -- you're blessed with this talent."

Living the dream shouldn't be easy, after all. Or so Johnson keeps telling himself.

"Tomorrow is not promised," he said. "Just do your best and keep working hard."
 
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I especially enjoyed the "Who is this... YAWN... guy?" at the beginning of the video.
 

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I saw a snippet on Rivals recruiting page a headline "Checking in with Ethan Johnson". I clicked on it just to see what the jist was, and it said Ethan might be making an official visit or two.

Is there anything that is alarming with the second official or not? Is this just a reporter trying to create a buzz or what?
 

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I saw a snippet on Rivals recruiting page a headline "Checking in with Ethan Johnson". I clicked on it just to see what the jist was, and it said Ethan might be making an official visit or two.

Is there anything that is alarming with the second official or not? Is this just a reporter trying to create a buzz or what?

He is not. He is coming to ND more so for the academic side rather than the football aspect.
 

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So wait - is the official visit to ND? Because if he's taking one somewhere else then there's gonna be trouble.
 

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EJ's only Official Visit is to ND. He has no interest in any other school. The Rivals tagline was totally misleading and I believe they have even corrected that.
 

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EJ's only Official Visit is to ND. He has no interest in any other school. The Rivals tagline was totally misleading and I believe they have even corrected that.

Got it - thanks Bill. But, a misleading Rivals teaser? NEVER!
 
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