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gallup21

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Hey guys, I need help getting quotes for an article I'm writing sometime next week after a possible interview, and I was wondering if you guys could put the post format in this. The topic is who you think will start at QB, and explain why the other three wont. This isnt a post for you guys who say, "may the best QB win". Im going for who your fav. is and why.

For example.... Jimmy Clausen - WHY HE WILL WIN

DJ - WHY HE WONT
ZF - WHY HE WONT
ES- WHY HE WONT

thats just an example of the format i need. thanks
 

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I haven't seen one live pass by any of them all spring so I can't comment.
 
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Rizzo, dont worry about having watched them play. PRobably 80% at least of the board hasnt seen them play in a meaningful game besides Clausen maybe, so just post your fav. why and why the others arent, nothing negative against someone
 

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I havent seen them play in the spring, but from what i think, and this is just my opinion, its coming down to clausen and jones. I know some people think frazer too.
 

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Here is the only problem I really have with answering this post. I don't really have a good reason why A) 1 of these guys should win or B) Why the other guys shouldn't win the starting job, nobody knows anything about them as players. BUT if I had to list my favorite it would be Clausen..er..Jones..wait..Frazer...no..Sharpley. Ok my only reason seriously to pick Clausen is because he is so highly regarded that I think its tough to keep him off the field.
 
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NDBCS, ive just seen so many people (maybe they werent on this board) but on other boards saying, "i see DD winning" or "i think Jimmy handles all the hype and gets us 3 NC" or what not, so i just thought because im writing an article (or was going to) that i needed quotes about why people thought certain QB's would win and why the others wouldnt. thats all.
 
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Only 80 percent against nobody, come on give yourself some credit...atleast 90% easy...lol

Nah I was a TE/MLB for 12 years LOL I hate QBs and am not one and never wanted to be one so my throwing accuracy and power isn't what I would call great so yeah about 80% lol
 

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NDBCS, ive just seen so many people (maybe they werent on this board) but on other boards saying, "i see DD winning" or "i think Jimmy handles all the hype and gets us 3 NC" or what not, so i just thought because im writing an article (or was going to) that i needed quotes about why people thought certain QB's would win and why the others wouldnt. thats all.

Ok well how about this, I think if JC wins its because he is the best pure passing, pro-style QB on the rosterand has proven in practice he can handle the offense and can handle the leadership role as the starting QB plus he is probably the future of the program so you might as well let him get his lumps with the rest of these young guys and build for a run at the national title in 08-09-10.

DD could win it because with his ability to run the ball and make plays with his legs he makes a lot of sense behind a young Oline and could be a Vince Young type player. Plus, if you decide to sit Clausen a year he could easily stay within the program and change positions later, even tough I know he wants to play QB.

ZF to me I think has the strongest overall arm but might be lacking in the accuracy department and seems to be working on his goofy release that I remember seeing in the AAA game last year. I think he has to overcome being a similar type of player that JC is and that could be tough.

As far as Sharpley, I think with all the talent behind him its going to be tough for him to be named the starter. The other three QB's are probably considered more talented and everyone in ND nation is looking for one of the young guys to step in and go ahead and learn this year so we have an experienced QB next year that can be the longterm starter. I think Sharpley might be the most ready but just has bad timing as far as trying to win the starting job.
 
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perfect NDBCS, i just wanted fans opinions and that was exactly it. Thanks
 

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Here's my shot:

Zach Frazer will win the starting spot. He is the most well-rounded of all of the candidates in terms of experience, mobility, and pure raw talent. He's the closest thing to Brady Quinn that Charlie Weis has available to him right now, and putting in Frazer will require the fewest tweaks or changes to the offense.

Demetrius Jones will not win the starting spot. That's not a knock on DD, because he is quite talented, crazy-mobile, and has an arm that is almost as good as anyone else in this race. But putting him in at QB would require some considerable tweaking of the offense to take full advantage of his mobility, and I don't see Charlie really wanting to do that. There's enough uncertainty already at running back and wide receiver without overhauling the entire offensive philosophy.

Evan Sharpley will not win the starting spot. He knows the playbook and he's no slouch talent-wise, but he's the sort of steady, experienced hand who makes a great emergency backup, and that's it. He doesn't have the mad talent that you want out of a starter over the course of a long season. But if the starter goes down to an injury, I want Evan out there pronto.

Jimmy Clausen will not win the starting spot. He's good. He's damn good. He's sooooo cool he can solve global warming just by thinking about it. I get it. I also remember the last time we had a QB who was this heavily hyped coming in, and while Ron Powlus was no slouch (just look at all of the Powlus passing records Brady Quinn broke last year and this year), he didn't come anywhere near the hype. And I would be very surprised if Jimmy could live up to that hype. Very pleasantly surprised, sure, but very surprised. It's great that he has all that raw talent, and it's nice that he has two older brothers and a former NFLer who were helping him learn. But a college offense is a complex thing to learn, and everyone else has a distinct edge over him in terms of having the time to learn that offense.
 

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Hey VY, honest serious question. If you don't think JC starts this year when do you envisioning him starting? If he doesn't start in the next two years do you think he ever plays a down at ND? i am just curious at to what others think.
 

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Hey VY, honest serious question. If you don't think JC starts this year when do you envisioning him starting? If he doesn't start in the next two years do you think he ever plays a down at ND? i am just curious at to what others think.

As I've said before, if someone else takes the starting job this year and starts winning games, it could be 2010 before we see Jimmy Football start a game at Notre Dame.

That said... Jimmy is damn good, and he's only going to get more familiar with the playbook over time. As long as he stays at Notre Dame, he will always be a threat to take away the starting job from someone else based on how things work out in the offseason practices. Plus a Notre Dame degree is a Notre Dame degree. So, while a lot of people think Jimmy would transfer in a heartbeat if he doesn't get the starting job soon, I have a feeling he'd stick around longer than people might think. As long as he stays in the blue-and-gold, he'll always have a chance to earn himself the starting spot, and he knows it.
 
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Here is my opinion...

Jimmy Clausen will be the starting QB. I don't think there is one aspect of his game that you can say is weak. If anything, it would be the experience factor. But being a year older than most kids in his class, means that he is about the same age as DD and ZF. Also, his EE status gives him the Spring to catch up a bit. One of the greatest praises about him is that he is maybe the most fundamentally sound QB to come out of HS in 10 years. That should mean he is ready to play, especially when none of the QB's currently at the position have any considerable playing time.

Another thing to note. One thing that separates him from just about any QB fresh out of HS and most on any CFB roster is where he hits his receivers. From every tape I have seen, including yesterdays full tape of practice, he hits the receivers perfectly in stride, where they don't have to adjust to the ball. I think his deep throw can use a little work, but his crossing patterns seem flawless. When comparing them to the other QB's. The other guys might complete the pass, but JC seems to complete the pass in the best position to get them to make a play.

The only question would be if he has the "leadership" factor, especially as a guy that just got here in January. I believe that he does. I believe he is vocal and will be a good leader for his team. He had to lead his HS team as a sophomore, and did so devestatingly, so I believe he can lead an older group as a younger guy.

DD will not start, I would love to see him in action because he is the most dynamic out of everybody. But the issue is that ND with CW at the helm is not a team like WVU or Navy. I know DD is a good passer. But it doesn't appear that his passing is on par with JC's, ZF's, and maybe not even ES's. He is a good decision maker and has all of the leadership qualities that you would want out of a QB. I just believe that he is in the wrong system to take full advantage of his talents. It's too bad, really.

I think the only way he would ened up starting is if he proves that he can pass as well or better than any of the other QB's. If that happens, CW can then use his normal offense, more or less. And take advantage of DD's legs by creating some opportunities for him to run a little bit more. But he will have to prove that he is the most proficient passer first. And I just don't see that being the case.

Zach Frazer will not start simply because of his leadership qualities. Now I am acknowledging here that this opinion is just that... an opinion. I have heard some rumblings from many people still attending ND that ZF doesn't seem to have a good attitude or be a natural leader. At least not when comparing him to DD or JC. Maybe it is just speculation though. He does have tremendous passing tools. Probably the best arm, easily the best build in regards to a pro-pocket passer. I just feel like he doesn't have that intangible, he doesn't have that confidence. It seems faked to me. And CW is obviously one that looks at the "it" factor a lot.

Evan Sharpley will not start because baseball will get in his way, and because Weis simply won't have a half baseball player and half starting QB for ND on his team. I feel like Jeff could have been better last year, and it seemed like it was because baseball was on his mind. Same with Zibby and boxing. And at QB of all positions, you can't be distracted.

Sharpley is a good passer, but he doesn't have the velocity of any of the other guys. His balls loop a lot. That may work consistently in practice. But when you compare where the ball hits the hands of receivers, JC is far ahead of him. Sharpley hits them in the middle of the body consistently. JC hits them in stride, where they have a chance to make a play.
 
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