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Any Congress faces the task addressing rising healthcare costs for federal expenditures and for individuals while providing appropriate access to the healthcare system efficiently. Prior to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), healthcare costs were rising at 6% or more per year threatening to take more of employees earned income until by 2050 employees would see 53% of that go to healthcare. Future increases in federal costs were expected to rise significantly due to worsening chronic diseases especially related to rising obesity rates and to an aging baby boomer population among other factors. The U.S. expended more dollars for less efficient outcomes than most of the other developed countries. The challenge for Congress is also to provide healthcare services within a system of non-profit and for profit entities,

An excellent site:
Kaiser Family Foundation which has articles and linked to others such as:
-- The Affordable Care Act After Six Years (Wall Street Journal)
-- Payments for cost sharing increasing rapidly over time (Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker)
-- The Uninsured: A Primer - Key Facts about Health Insurance and the Uninsured in the Era of Health Reform
-- Recent Trends in Prescription Drug Costs (Journal of American Medical Association)
-- How Health Care Factors Into the Presidential Campaign (Wall Street Journal)
-- Analysis of UnitedHealth Group’s Premiums and Participation in ACA Marketplaces (Kaiser Family Foundation)
-- Explaining Health Care Reform: Risk Adjustment, Reinsurance, and Risk Corridors (2014)

Other articles:
-- The Sustainability of Health Spending Growth from Finance and Economics Discussion Series, Divisions of Research & Statistics and Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D.C. (2005)
-- Insurers Seek Double-Digit Rate Increases for 31 percent of Obamacare Individual Marketplace Products Nationwide
-- Health Costs: How the U.S. Compares With Other Countries
-- The stunning ignorance of Trump's health care plan
-- Overweight and Obesity (Center for Disease Control)
 
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Healthcare Costs Top U.S. Families' Financial Concerns

Long-Term Saving Concerns Top List for Those Living Comfortably

Americans who say they have enough money to live comfortably are more likely to cite long-term saving concerns such as retirement savings and college expenses as their most pressing financial problem.

Alternatively, those not living comfortably on their current income are more likely to point to immediate financial concerns about low wages (17%), debt payments (11%) and housing costs (10%). Compared with those who have the financial means to live comfortably, these Americans have less income and less education.
Bottom Line

These financial problems facing U.S. families parallel Americans' unease about the economy more broadly. In the past three months, Americans have consistently cited the economy as the most important issue facing the country. However, the contrasting nature of these concerns points to a much different reality for those without the financial means to live comfortably. Americans living in financial comfort emphasize concerns about meeting long-term financial goals, while those without enough money to live comfortably must instead sacrifice future financial goals to meet the immediate costs of living.
 
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dales5050 'Affordable' Health Insurance ≠ Health Care. That's one of the biggest misconceptions out there. ObamaCare did nothing to make health care more affordable. It just simply defined a path to get more people on health insurance. They are not the same. The Wall is like insurance. It's not actually going to curb illegal immigration. People think it will but it won't.

What was needed for health care was to lower to costs so that it was affordable for people to use. I am not saying giving it away. I am saying getting sick should not bankrupt you.
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Borrowing the quote from the Presidential threat.

Insurance misdeeds: Blue Cross Blue Shield’s policy, devastating cost to family
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – It’s a case study in deceptive business practices that one federal official calls, “A travesty. Outrageous and unreasonable.”

A seven month long News 13 investigation uncovers a cold-hearted health insurance scandal complete with reckless blunders, secret deals and bizarre billings. If you thought health insurance will always protect you from catastrophic medical costs, think again.

Just ask Brett and Sara Janos.

Brett is an immigration attorney. Sara just graduated from medical school. They became unwitting victims November 6th last year when Sara gave birth to triplets. A joyous event was overshadowed by heartbreak when the Janos triplets were born prematurely in critical condition.

From their first breaths, Wyatt, Dustin and Riley struggled to stay alive at Lovelace Women’s Hospital Neonatal Intensive Care Unit. Brett Janos recalls, “I was in another world. (It was) very hard actually seeing them there, pound and a half each and hooked up to a machine.”

Wyatt died within just a few days. Three weeks later, his brother Dustin passed away on Thanksgiving. “He was just critical. We ended up staying the whole Thanksgiving and that evening he kind of gave up,” Brett said.

Riley lived, but stayed in intensive care for an additional four months. Today he is home but Riley will likely face medical challenges the rest of his life. The triplet’s medical bills totaled $3,862,312.

But this is why we have health insurance.

You pay your monthly premium, the out of pocket and deductible, and then the insurance company picks up the rest. That’s the way it’s supposed to work, right? Brett and Sara Janos bought their policy from Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico (BCBSNM). The health insurance company explained in some detail all the things its policy would cover. However, there are exceptions Blue Cross Blue Shield does not talk about.

Brett and Sara discovered the reality of health insurance shortly after Dustin died. Just one month after the triplets were born, the couple started receiving incomprehensible invoices from health care organizations they’d never heard of. There were tens of thousands of dollars in billings. “As far as bills that are stacked on my desk, there’s still probably over $30,000 in bills. I don’t know what one to pay. Every time we are put in collections we’re given an amount that doesn’t match any of the bills,” Brett Janos said in June.

To understand where all those strange bills were coming from you have to understand Lovelace Hospital’s billing practices. For example, doctors at the Lovelace Neonatal Intensive Care Unit, NICU, treated the Janos triplets. However, even though those physicians work at the NICU, they don’t actually work for Lovelace. It’s part of a secret business deal orchestrated by Lovelace to use contract doctors to staff its NICU. Technically, the physician’s work for a Florida company called Sheridan Healthcare and it was Sheridan that billed Brett and Sara for tens of thousands of dollars in doctor’s fees.

Brett and Sara had never heard of Sheridan Healthcare and no one told them the doctors treating the triplets were not employed by Lovelace Hospital.

When Brett asked Blue Cross Blue Shield to explain the more than $20,000 in Sheridan billings, a claims adjuster told him, “You are responsible for everything.” BCBSNM said even though the Lovelace doctors work in New Mexico, their employer, Sheridan, is out of state. Because the doctor’s paychecks come from Florida, BCBSNM explained, the physician’s services are out-of-network. Out-of-network means Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico won’t pick up the tab. All the Sheridan bills were dumped on Brett and Sara Janos.

“After I found out that things were out of network and I was responsible for it, I couldn’t afford it. That’s one reason I stopped paying. If I’m responsible for $30,000, we don’t have that,” Brett told News 13. And when Brett and Sara didn’t pay, Sheridan turned the bills over to a collection agency.

Brett says it never occurred to him that the doctors who were trying to save the lives of his children might be out-of-network. “It doesn’t cross your mind, especially in an emergency situation. Our kids are rushed in there and they are trying to resuscitate them and trying to get them stable and we’re going to have a talk with the doctor and say who do you work for?”

The New Mexico Superintendent of Insurance launched an investigation. “The insured assumes that when they go to a hospital that Blue Cross sponsors that everything that goes on in that hospital is covered by Blue Cross. That was not the case in this case,” Superintendent of Insurance John Franchini said, adding “It’s wrong. It should not be happening. We should not allow that. We will try to stop it.”

To file an insurance complaint, go to the NM Office of the Superintendent of Insurance’s website
The tens of thousands of dollars in bills Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico refused to cover were devastating to the Janos family. “We’re trying to battle all this and still we know these bills are coming in. No one knows where they are coming from. We later find out we are responsible for them and we get harassing phone calls on top of that, even while we are in the NICU,” Brett Janos says.

And, it’s not just bills from Sheridan. When Riley needed delicate eye surgery at Presbyterian Hospital, BCBSNM stuck Brett and Sara with thousands of dollars in doctor’s bills. And when Riley needed hearing aids at UNMH, BCBSNM initially denied the coverage but later changed its mind and covered the bills.

Congresswoman Michelle Lujan Grisham reviewed the Janos case. She told News 13, “Patients have no way of knowing what’s really covered, what isn’t covered, who’s in network, who’s out of network and the fact that this family and many others have to use a spreadsheet to figure out what’s been billed (and) what they pay, is outrageous.”

A spokesperson for Lovelace Health System would not discuss its business relationship with the Florida based Sheridan Healthcare. Neither Lovelace CEO Ron Stern nor Lovelace Chief Financial Officer Stephen Forney would return repeated calls for comment. Sheridan Healthcare also did not respond to questions about its business relationship with Lovelace.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico Chief of Staff Janice Torres calls the Janos case, “incredibly complex.” She admits BCBSNM made mistakes and incorrectly processed claims. She said BCBSNM would fix the errors and pay all outstanding claims.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico CEO Kurt Shipley did not return our phone calls for comment. We caught up with Shipley recently at a public meeting. We asked him if he felt the Janos family was owed an apology. Shipley responded, “I don’t have a personal apology to say to anybody on camera. Period. I don’t have anything to say on camera because it’s a privacy issue.”

Kurt Shipley did tell News 13 he is not aware of any outstanding claims in the Janos case. However, that’s news to Brett and Sara who are still being hounded by Lovelace Health System, Sheridan Healthcare and collection agencies for unpaid medical billings Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico won’t cover.

According to New Mexico’s Superintendent of Insurance John Franchini, “It is a tremendous tragedy and I feel so sorry for this family. I am very upset about the fact there is no transparency, there is no openness or communication like it should have been with this (health insurance) policy.”

Congresswoman Lujan Grisham adds, “We are not holding the insurance companies accountable for providing coverage. They are supposed to cover these bills. That’s their risk, right? You could get sick, they have to pay. And if they are finding exceptions then something is wrong with the entire system of insurance coverage and that means we in Congress have to do something.”

When asked how all this will end, Brett Janos replied, “I don’t know Larry. I do not know.”

On June 4th, 2015, the Janos family received an adjusted itemized hospital billing from Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico for the care of Wyatt, Dustin and Riley Janos. This document was provided to the family several months after the New Mexico Superintendent of Insurance began an investigation. Many of the charges that Blue Cross Blue Shield originally listed as “out of network” were later revised as “in network.” The itemized medical billing came in PDF format and is 60 pages long. KRQE News 13 received a copy of this document and analyzed the data and this is what we discovered:

According to this adjusted claim, there were 346 line item charges submitted into Blue Cross Blue Shield totaling $3,864,863.01.
As of June, 2015, Blue Cross Blue Shield indicates patient responsibility for payment on this claim is $21,619.18.
Of the items submitted to Blue Cross Blue Shield, 24 of those were duplicate charges – which were denied. The duplicate charges totaled $174,741.55.
--There were 307 items billed to Blue Cross Blue Shield as “in network” which were approved totaling, $3,532,811.91 with a patient responsibility of $10,203.89 for the charges.
--There were 11 items billed to Blue Cross Blue Shield as “out of network”, which were marked as approved totaling $22,789.00 with a patient responsibility of $10,819.32. Note: All of the providers listed for these 11 items are listed as being “In Network” for other similar charges on the same claim.
--There were 2 items billed to Blue Cross Blue Shield as “in network” totaling $736.00, which were denied and deferred to the patient for payment. The reasons for the denials were listed as, “Services not covered for this type of provider”, and “Service not covered by contract for this place of treatment”, despite the fact that other approved claims were made on behalf of this same provider.
--There were 2 items billed to Blue Cross Blue Shield listed as “late charges” which were denied. These totaled $133,876.55. There is no patient responsibility assigned for these items.
--There was 1 line item marked as being both “In Network” and “Out of Network” for a single service. The item was submitted to Blue Cross Blue Shield was $644.00 with a patient responsibility of $596.47

Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Mexico bowed out of the Affordable Care Act portion of their business when they were denied a 51% increase in their rates - but granted a 24% increase. BCBS covered 50% of NM's AFCA patients. BCBS's President said in a press release:
"To the 35,000 customers who selected Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Mexico individual products, we thank you and look forward to continuing to compete for your business now and in the future."

The other health insurance companies in New Mexico rate increase requests for their Obamacare portion were in the single digits.

New Mexico: What the heck is going on with Blue Cross Blue Shield??
 
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‘Unreasonable’ Insurance Rate Increases.
The Affordable Care Act requires states and the federal government to review premium increases that appear excessive.


(A Health Policy Brief from the Robert Woods Foundation, March 2011)

What's the Issue
The Affordable Care Act of 2010 requires the federal government to work with the states to develop a process for reviewing “unreasonable” increases in premiums for certain categories of health insurance. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) recently issued a proposed rule defining the meaning of “unreasonable” and describing how states
and the federal government would review insurance company proposals to increase premiums. The goal is to discourage insurers from inappropriately raising premiums and to make the health insurance market more consumer-friendly and transparent. This brief describes what is in the law and the proposed federal regulation, and summarizes criticisms coming from insurers on the one hand and consumer groups on the other.

What’s the background?
Health insurance premiums have risen steadily during the past decade and have grown much more rapidly than general inflation or wages (Exhibit 1). Many factors contribute to rising premiums. These include increases in outlays on health care, such as spending on hospital and physician services; changes in the benefits covered by health insurance policies;
changes in the demographics of insured people, such as age; and rising insurer profits and administrative costs. As health insurance becomes less affordable, more people are likely to become uninsured. The number of uninsured Americans
younger than age 65 rose to 50 million in 2009, the latest year for which federal Census Bureau data are available (Exhibit 2).

Exhibit 2 shows "Uninsured as a Share of the Nonelderly Population and by Poverty Levels, 2009".
62% have employer/other private insurance,
20% have Medicaid or other public insurance,
19% do not have health insurance.

Of those 19% uninsured, broken down by % of federal poverty level:
10% are 400% or above
13% are 250-399% of poverty level
38% are 100-250% of poverty level
40% are <100% of poverty level
 
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We had something very similar to the Janos family happen to us with the birth of my first son, just not in the same ballpark of $3 million in expenses. When my son was born his blood sugar was a little low, not dangerous, but low enough for some concern. Our daughter was the same way, and the hospital let my wife nurse her a bit and it came right back up. They didn't really do that with my son, they decided to take him to the NICU. The hospital was covered under Blue Cross Blue Shield, but we had no idea the NICU was not (Seriously, WTF is up with this?).

So, they take him to the NICU and put him on an IV, it was supposed to be short term....problem is the nurses screwed up. They didn't put the IV in right, missed the vein I guess, and ended up giving him an infection. So, even though his blood sugar was back up, now he had to be put on antibiotics and get a new IV. They missed the vein in the other arm too and ended up having to put it in his damn head...not what you want to see as a parent. They ended up putting him on oxygen too, also a result of the infection and having to constantly stick him with IVs. So, he had to remain that way in the NICU for 3 days I think, all the while my wife (Still recovering from the C-section) slept in the NICU on a loveseat with my son in his crib so she could nurse him and change his damn diaper because the nurses were too damn lazy to do it (He got a rash after nurses failed to change his diaper several times, despite the fact they claimed a nurse watches no more than 2 babies in the NICU at a time). After a few days on antibiotics they thought my son was healthy enough to do the circumcision. They started the process, then realized they didn't have any of the dissoluble stitches, so they used regular ones. After they had the regular ones in they found the dissoluble ones, took out the original stitches, and put the right ones in. Meanwhile he was bleeding for 45 minutes, blood pressure dropped, and as a result they had to put him back on an IV and oxygen for another few days.

Needless to say, this NICU was completely incompetent. A very big, healthy boy (11+ lbs, 99th percentile in height!) that had a slightly low sugar problem got shitty care and had to spend several days in the NICU when he didn't belong there. Afterwards the NICU tried to hit us with a $50,000+ bill for the 5-6 day stay when Blue Cross Blue Shield turned them away. I just laughed, I told them I couldn't pay it and wouldn't pay it, they would have to go back to BCBS. Eventually they quit contacting me, but if they ever tried to fire that shit across my desk again I'd fight it tooth and nail.
 
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Thanks, ulukinatme, for your very personal experience. None of us should have to mortgage our family's future for health care or worry that a job loss or a pre-existing condition leaves us without any insurance for checkups, for meds or in emergencies on one of the worst days of our lives.

Thanks for your conclusion:
Needless to say, this NICU was completely incompetent. A very big, healthy boy (11+ lbs, 99th percentile in height!) that had a slightly low sugar problem got shitty care and had to spend several days in the NICU when he didn't belong there. Afterwards the NICU tried to hit us with a $50,000+ bill for the 5-6 day stay when Blue Cross Blue Shield turned them away. I just laughed, I told them I couldn't pay it and wouldn't pay it, they would have to go back to BCBS. Eventually they quit contacting me, but if they ever tried to fire that shit across my desk again I'd fight it tooth and nail.

America's Health Segregation Problem:
Has the country done enough to overcome its Jim Crow health care history?


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Sixty-two years ago Tuesday, the Supreme Court passed down its decision in Brown v. Board of Education, finding that “segregation is a denial of the equal protection of the laws.” That decision, pertaining to de jure segregation in public schools, became the groundwork for dismantling many of the formal systems of racial segregation that pervaded both the South and the North in the century following the Civil War. Brown v. Board was a key milestone in the civil-rights movement, and a key weapon for that movement’s future successes...
Housing segregation is still rampant, and segregation of black people in areas of concentrated poverty has only accelerated in the past decade. But one of the most enduring—and least noticed—areas of racial segregation even after Brown v. Board has been health care.

The sweeping tide of Civil Rights papered over the fissures that were built into Jim Crow-era health-care, but progress was slow and proved much more difficult to assess than progress in education or housing. Generations of strict geographical segregation left hospitals that served black people deeply segregated, understaffed, and under-resourced. The number of black physicians has never come close to matching their demographic share of the total population. Unlike the temporary integration gains in education, there is no real high-water mark for the state of health-care integration.

The 2010 passage of the Affordable Care Act aimed to set that mark. The ACA functioned as a stealthy civil-rights achievement of the Obama presidency, promising to make health care less of a financial burden, end disparities in health-care coverage, ease barriers to access for people of color, and subsidize preventative health-care services that proved especially lacking in black neighborhoods.

Although the ACA has undoubtedly succeeded at some of those metrics and is still being evaluated for some others, the Supreme Court’s 2012 decision in NFIB v. Sebelius seriously weakened its most key provision. The broad Medicaid expansion to poor people was effectively turned into a state opt-in, and state decisions to expand Medicaid have so far been largely based on ideological grounds. Southern conservative governors and legislatures opposing the ACA on party lines or concerns about expanded federal authority and the costs of the program have formed most of the resistance to the ACA. And many of their states have large black populations. Seven of the ten states with the highest black populations chose not to expand Medicaid. Overall, more than half of the people who are now categorically unable to access any affordable health coverage are people of color. Thirty percent of people without affordable coverage options are black.

Over six decades after desegregation kicked off in earnest with Brown v. Board, America has not traveled far in its journey to escape health-care segregation. At every turn of life, black people and the greater community of color are still beset with a minefield of health-care dilemmas that don’t always exist for everyone else, as they have always been. The ACA represents a crossroads, and the fulfillment of over a half-century of integration rhetoric depends on how future policies embrace its spirit of change. The health-policy debate over the next several years will help answer the most basic question at the heart of every debate about segregation: Just what does America want to be?
 
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5 smart ways small firms can slash health-care costs

Robin Wiener has achieved something many small-business owners have struggled to do: She has lowered her firm's health-care premiums.

The dip isn't huge. Her health-care IT firm, Get Real Health in Rockville, Maryland, has saved about 1 percent. But achieving the small savings took some careful planning, given that her firm—which covers 100 percent of employees' health-care costs—has a high-quality PPO with Blue Cross Blue Shield.

"Our employees really like it," said Wiener, whose firm has 38 employees in the U.S. and about 40 overseas and generates annual revenue in the $6 million to $8 million range.
 

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How Republicans Finally Got a Victory on Obamacare:
A federal judge’s ruling against the administration vindicated the GOP's try-anything strategy to derail the Affordable Care Act.

For the last five years, Republicans in Congress have adopted a rather simple and old-fashioned strategy for going after Obamacare: Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.

They’ve tried to repeal it; defund it; shut down the government to block it; pray that the Supreme Court would overturn it (twice); persuade Democrats to help them undermine it; and most recently, sue President Obama over how the government chose to implement it.

On Thursday afternoon, House Republicans found out that something finally stuck. A federal judge decided in their favor and ruled that the Obama administration was spending money on insurance subsidies that Congress never specifically appropriated. Like several of the GOP’s previous maneuvers, this victory is tentative and may be temporary: Judge Rosemary Collyer, a George W. Bush appointee on the U.S. District Court in D.C. stayed her own ruling so the government could appeal, and a higher court might reverse the decision or find that the House of Representatives had no standing to sue the president in the first place.

Americans' Experiences with ACA Marketplace and Medicaid Coverage: Access to Care and Satisfaction:
Findings from the Commonwealth Fund Affordable Care Act Tracking Survey, February–April 2016

The fourth wave of the Commonwealth Fund Affordable Care Act Tracking Survey, February–April 2016, finds at the close of the third open enrollment period that the working-age adult uninsured rate stands at 12.7 percent, statistically unchanged from 2015 but significantly lower than 2014 and 2013. Uninsured rates in the past three years have fallen most steeply for low-income adults though remain higher compared to wealthier adults. ACA marketplace and Medicaid coverage is helping to end long bouts without insurance, bridge gaps when employer insurance is lost, and improve access to health care. Sixty-one percent of enrollees who had used their insurance to get care said they would not have been able to afford or access it prior to enrolling. Doctor availability and appointment wait times are similar to those reported by insured Americans overall. Majorities with marketplace or Medicaid coverage continue to be satisfied with their insurance.
 

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Mass Shootings - Hospital Response

Mass Shootings - Hospital Response

In the wave of increased mass shootings or bombings, hospitals and first responders have an organized, practiced response involving off-duty response of trained doctors and nurses, trauma triage both in the field, in transit and at the ER door, mobilizing blood donations, diverting of non-emergency patients, appropriate discharge of patients to clear beds, trauma surgeons as well as discharge and follow-up of non-emergency trauma patients. Not all hospitals in every state are similarly prepared, though every state has one Trauma 1 (highest) hospital.


How it works:

WHY BOSTON’S HOSPITALS WERE READY

Community hospital rises to the challenge of mass shooting at Oregon college

The healer’s journey-Part 1: How nurses navigate the wake of a mass casualty shooting


The aftermath on health care professionals is very important even for trauma personnel that are used to critical injuries, even long afterwards when other communities experience in addition to counseling and mental health for survivors, police and paramedics.

The healer’s journey-Part 2: How a mass casualty shooting affects nurses on the front lines

A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between 2000 and 2013 (FBI)
 
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From ulukinatme's post in Dallas Police Shooting #80:
Or anybody that saw their health insurance deductibles skyrocket after Obama Care was passed. Had a very, very good health insurance prior to 2010. Our deductible more than tripled since then. Now someone has to lose an arm and a leg before insurance starts helping kick in with the bills. Our family has only met the deductible one year, and that was the year we had a baby /w a NICU stay AND a back surgery. We've had two babies since 2010, and one was diagnosed Autistic and attends therapies/doctor appointments now. That's a lot of damn bills that insurance doesn't lend any help with anymore.

But hey, Obama supporters will tell you Obama Care did not cause health insurance rates to change. I guess deductibles were always jumping by hundreds of dollars like that. Someone once said: “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free

Some important considerations concerning health insurance rate increases:

-- Obamacare health insurance covers those Americans at 100-140% of poverty level. Minimum wage rates, which are set by states for private companies, currently puts many families in this category.

-- Health insurance companies, who received incentives to enter the Obamacare market for the first few years which are now ending, have to justify rate increase requests from state regulatory agencies. Approval requirements may vary from state to state. Forty-five of the fifty states have effective state regulatory agencies.

-- Obamacare-qualified participants are in separate programs within health insurance groups requiring separate rate requests. This does not mean that those companies, like BCBS, won't attempt increases in their other groups, but they have to justify those increases to state regularoty agencies for that group.

-- Rate increases for all groups may reflect soaring drug costs, which are not regulated.

-- Denials for exorbitant rate requests by insurance companies for Obamacare as Blue Cross/Blue Shields could exceed 50-70% in states like Texas. Many other insurances requested rate requests less than 10%.

-- Less low use participants entered Obamacare than expected and pay the tax penalty.

-- More employers to reduce their costs are going towards contract or part-time workers, who then fall into the Obamacare category of participants.

-- Most national or regional health insurers like BCBS or United Health Care are seeing record profits, are most in favor of Obamacare, and would not want to change the program.

-- State health insurance companies like BCBS are part of regional BCBSs. Their increases in your state may also reflect attempts to regain any losses in other states where their rate requests are denied or lowered.

-- Local hospitals and their for-profit insurances are most-effective in keeping their high-use patients out of the hospital with case management. Regional or national health insurers have case managers that can be reached by phone for approvals, who often ask for faxed information for approvals, which sometimes delay discharge and thereby increase costs.

-- Provider fraud is now being identified in large amounts due to now required electronic medical records, but those are identified by federal record billing requests at random. That does not mean that much provider fraud is not identified.

-- More Americans need higher care for chronic diseases often due to increased rates of obesity and life expectancies, though for the first time in quite a while life expectancy went down last year.

-- All private health insurers rates of payment generally follow the rates set by federal insurance rates, which are lower than what they would set. The halcyon days of rate increases without any regulations so that hospitals can build new wings, etc. as in the 50s are over.

In general, the health care system in America reflects the combination of for profit and not for profit institutions with varying levels of commitment to regulation of health insurance companies.

Hope this helps touches on a few of the factors. Any federal changes would need to address these issues to keep costs lower and result in any lowering of your future costs.

State Approval of Health Insurance Rate Increases

Texans can’t check healthcare increases

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From ulukinatme's post in Dallas Police Shooting #80:


Some important considerations concerning health insurance rate increases:

-- Obamacare health insurance covers those Americans at 100-140% of poverty level. Minimum wage rates, which are set by states for private companies, currently puts many families in this category.

One tweak: premium assistance covers Americans at 100-400% of FPL. I think you're thinking of the expanded Medicaid coverage which caps out at 138% of FPL (133% + 5% income disregard).

-- Health insurance companies, who received incentives to enter the Obamacare market for the first few years which are now ending, have to justify rate increase requests from state regulatory agencies. Approval requirements may vary from state to state. Forty-five of the fifty states have effective state regulatory agencies.

-- Obamacare-qualified participants are in separate programs within health insurance groups requiring separate rate requests. This does not mean that those companies, like BCBS, won't attempt increases in their other groups, but they have to justify those increases to state regularoty agencies for that group.

Rate review and rate approval are two pretty distinct concepts in insurance. Effective rate review is a step in the right direction, but it's a pretty small one. When you're dealing with such a broad range of risk with a lot of unprecedented elements, the actuarially sound range -- the basis of many states' review -- can be pretty broad, which weakens this control.

-- Rate increases for all groups may reflect soaring drug costs, which are not regulated.

Probably the most disappointing part of the law, for me, was that it avoided the opportunity to go after some low-hanging fruit in the pharmaceutical industry. That's an incredibly complex market with huge risk if you screw it up, so I can't entirely blame the administration or legislators for avoiding the fight, but it's one of the areas in health care where there are real, identifiable failures in the market. On just about every side.

-- Denials for exorbitant rate requests by insurance companies for Obamacare as Blue Cross/Blue Shields could exceed 50-70% in states like Texas. Many other insurances requested rate requests less than 10%.

The last part was true before ACA. I haven't seen much on the change in the rate of high requests in the wake of the law. Then again, there were several elements (e.g. risk corridors, HIT, structure of premium assistance) of ACA designed to stabilize rates during the first several years, so I wouldn't expect any shift to be especially visible at this point.

-- Less low use participants entered Obamacare than expected and pay the tax penalty.

-- More employers to reduce their costs are going towards contract or part-time workers, who then fall into the Obamacare category of participants.

-- Most national or regional health insurers like BCBS or United Health Care are seeing record profits, are most in favor of Obamacare, and would not want to change the program.

I would expect the last of these, even if margins are being squeezed. I haven't looked up insurance uptake rates in over a year, but last I can remember, the rate of uninsureds fell by about 50% (~10 percentage points if memory serves). Even if your margin is smaller, a large insurer is going to more than make that up with volume. More than that, those insurers got significant subsidies through ACA, and not just the direct ones. Medicaid is overwhelmingly a managed care model these days and the big players in the private market are also the big players in Medicaid. Expanded coverage under ACA is a multi-billion dollar infusion of new lives into that side of their book of business.

-- State health insurance companies like BCBS are part of regional BCBSs. Their increases in your state may also reflect attempts to regain any losses in other states where their rate requests are denied or lowered.

There are a few regional BCBS's, but the overall structure is a federated system of independent companies, and most of those are single-state insurers. Moreover, most (if not all; I'm not positive on the ubiquity) states prohibit this kind of external risk shifting. It may be possible in states without rate review, but it wouldn't generally be a valid component of an actuarial analysis. Of course, see the proviso above about slack in those analyses, but this wouldn't expand the range.

-- Local hospitals and their for-profit insurances are most-effective in keeping their high-use patients out of the hospital with case management. Regional or national health insurers have case managers that can be reached by phone for approvals, who often ask for faxed information for approvals, which sometimes delay discharge and thereby increase costs.

This is interesting. I've not actually heard much about prior approval increasing costs. It's a tool to control care, and a lot of providers have strongly negative opinions about it, but I've not heard the argument that it increases our aggregate health care spend. I would think it would be less popular in managed care if it were true, but that's based on a lot of assumptions on my part.

-- Provider fraud is now being identified in large amounts due to now required electronic medical records, but those are identified by federal record billing requests at random. That does not mean that much provider fraud is not identified.

-- More Americans need higher care for chronic diseases often due to increased rates of obesity and life expectancies, though for the first time in quite a while life expectancy went down last year.

Is obesity an increase in lifetime cost? I've actually not heard that obesity or overweight have this effect. I've read that underweight does, but only slightly. Most of the chronic conditions from obesity and overweight are on the less expensive side of the spectrum and I would expect them to be offset by shorter life expectancies and less time spent in the end-of-life stage. Again, relying on my faulty memory here.

-- All private health insurers rates of payment generally follow the rates set by federal insurance rates, which are lower than what they would set. The halcyon days of rate increases without any regulations so that hospitals can build new wings, etc. as in the 50s are over.

In general, the health care system in America reflects the combination of for profit and not for profit institutions with varying levels of commitment to regulation of health insurance companies.

I agree with all of this (and the post overall was great). I would add that we haven't really yet seen the either side of the effects of two of the centerpieces of the private insurance changes in ACA, guaranteed issue and community rating. Those are two pieces with a great deal of potential to affect insurance risk, and one of the few remaining avenues available to externalize that risk is onto providers. As some of the market stabilizers imposed on the first few years of ACA fall away and some of the suppressed downside risk of the law comes into play, we may see more changes hit providers. I'm not clever enough to give you a prediction about what those could look like.
 

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One tweak: premium assistance covers Americans at 100-400% of FPL. I think you're thinking of the expanded Medicaid coverage which caps out at 138% of FPL (133% + 5% income disregard).

Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking of expanded Medicaid.

Rate review and rate approval are two pretty distinct concepts in insurance. Effective rate review is a step in the right direction, but it's a pretty small one. When you're dealing with such a broad range of risk with a lot of unprecedented elements, the actuarially sound range -- the basis of many states' review -- can be pretty broad, which weakens this control.

Here's where how much the state regulation commissions' effectiveness and their criteria for approval varies. The pressure from the health insurance companies is dumping their participants onto the marketplace.

Probably the most disappointing part of the law, for me, was that it avoided the opportunity to go after some low-hanging fruit in the pharmaceutical industry. That's an incredibly complex market with huge risk if you screw it up, so I can't entirely blame the administration or legislators for avoiding the fight, but it's one of the areas in health care where there are real, identifiable failures in the market. On just about every side.

Why we cannot negotiate reasonable drug prices like with the VA does not make sense to most of us. But, it is the product of a legislative commitment to minimal regulation of a free marketplace dominated by a few companies. I know of people who have to take a trade drug, whose price has increased five-fold in the past seven years, though the drug is seventy years old. Anyone with a need for a specialty or orphan drug is at the mercy of whatever rates are set.

The last part was true before ACA. I haven't seen much on the change in the rate of high requests in the wake of the law. Then again, there were several elements (e.g. risk corridors, HIT, structure of premium assistance) of ACA designed to stabilize rates during the first several years, so I wouldn't expect any shift to be especially visible at this point.

BCBS of Texas dropped their individual PPO plans in 2015 and 367,000 members went looking for another insurance. BCBS is requesting a 60% rate increase for Obamacare program with 603,000 participants. Will they drop out if not? They opted out in N.M. when they did not get a 53% rate request. BCBS is the only insurer in all counties in Texas.

Rising Healthcare Costs: Insurers Want Higher Obamacare Premiums In 2017, But Actual Amounts Likely To Vary Significantly

I would expect the last of these, even if margins are being squeezed. I haven't looked up insurance uptake rates in over a year, but last I can remember, the rate of uninsureds fell by about 50% (~10 percentage points if memory serves). Even if your margin is smaller, a large insurer is going to more than make that up with volume. More than that, those insurers got significant subsidies through ACA, and not just the direct ones. Medicaid is overwhelmingly a managed care model these days and the big players in the private market are also the big players in Medicaid. Expanded coverage under ACA is a multi-billion dollar infusion of new lives into that side of their book of business.



There are a few regional BCBS's, but the overall structure is a federated system of independent companies, and most of those are single-state insurers. Moreover, most (if not all; I'm not positive on the ubiquity) states prohibit this kind of external risk shifting. It may be possible in states without rate review, but it wouldn't generally be a valid component of an actuarial analysis. Of course, see the proviso above about slack in those analyses, but this wouldn't expand the range.

True, but rate requests are often similar in the states of the parent company. Blue Cross premium hikes in Texas, Oklahoma could mean Illinois sticker shock
BCBS of Illinois's (or HCSC) subsidiaries are BCBS in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Montana.



This is interesting. I've not actually heard much about prior approval increasing costs. It's a tool to control care, and a lot of providers have strongly negative opinions about it, but I've not heard the argument that it increases our aggregate health care spend. I would think it would be less popular in managed care if it were true, but that's based on a lot of assumptions on my part.

Patients should not have to stay in hospitals when they are ready for discharge to another facility for lower level of care. This happens. A local insurance plan that hospital case managers can contact and obtain approval for payment to an accepting assisted care facility with 24/7 coverage to review faxed documents is most effective use of health care dollars. What I meant was that some national offsite insurance case managers may delay hospital discharge with transfer to that facility slow responses before approving payments for that lower level of care. Hospital care payments are much more expensive and not appropriate. In general, case management has significantly lowered costs and saved those facilities who commit to that a good deal of money.

Is obesity an increase in lifetime cost? I've actually not heard that obesity or overweight have this effect. I've read that underweight does, but only slightly. Most of the chronic conditions from obesity and overweight are on the less expensive side of the spectrum and I would expect them to be offset by shorter life expectancies and less time spent in the end-of-life stage. Again, relying on my faulty memory here.

Obesity Prevention Source: Economic Costs (Harvard School of Public Health)

NEW DATA SHOWS OBESITY COSTS WILL GROW TO $344 BILLION BY 2018


I agree with all of this (and the post overall was great). I would add that we haven't really yet seen the either side of the effects of two of the centerpieces of the private insurance changes in ACA, guaranteed issue and community rating. Those are two pieces with a great deal of potential to affect insurance risk, and one of the few remaining avenues available to externalize that risk is onto providers. As some of the market stabilizers imposed on the first few years of ACA fall away and some of the suppressed downside risk of the law comes into play, we may see more changes hit providers. I'm not clever enough to give you a prediction about what those could look like.

Thanks for your comments, NOLAIrish.

One of the biggest factors of health care rate increases relates to instability, specifically Obama vs Congress. Insurance hates instability. Congress authorized the creation of it, approved tax credits, and initial funding but has held up ongoing funding from being spent. Obama went ahead and spent the $7 billion necessary to fund the program, but was taken to court by the Republican Congress. A Federal District Court has found that Obama's actions were unconstitutional. This will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, we have the Presidential election which will determine which way a health care legislation may go. The reaction by those who expected government subsidies for participant costs - and which are now unsure - has been predictable. The health insurance companies have shifted the burden to the consumer with rate increases. Or opted out leaving people without providers, insurance or hospitals.
 
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Payments for cost sharing increasing rapidly over time

Rising cost-sharing for people with health insurance has drawn a good deal of public attention in recent years. For example, the average deductible for people with employer-provided health coverage rose from $303 to $1,077 between 2006 and 2015.

We find that, between 2004 and 2014, average payments for deductibles and coinsurance rose considerably faster than the overall cost for covered benefits, while the average payments for copayments fell. As can be seen in the chart below, over this time period, patient cost-sharing rose substantially faster than payments for care by health plans as insurance coverage became a little less generous.
 

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Evaluating the Impact of Health Insurance Industry Consolidation: Learning from Experience

Between 2006 and 2014, the four-firm concentration ratio for the sale of private insurance increased significantly, from 74 percent to 83 percent. By comparison, the four-firm concentration ratio for the airline industry is 62 percent.

Marketshare of Health Insurance 2014
BCBS 37%
Anthem 15%
United 13%
Aetna 11%
Cigna 6%

Others 17%
 

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Why we cannot negotiate reasonable drug prices like with the VA does not make sense to most of us. But, it is the product of a legislative commitment to minimal regulation of a free marketplace dominated by a few companies. I know of people who have to take a trade drug, whose price has increased five-fold in the past seven years, though the drug is seventy years old. Anyone with a need for a specialty or orphan drug is at the mercy of whatever rates are set.

Thanks, again, for several more fantastic posts. The irony of this mindset among legislators is that the pharmaceutical marketplace is almost the polar opposite of a functional, free market. Much of the business model is premised on capturing profits during the period of government-sponsored monopoly (i.e. patents) and discouraging competitors from bringing their products to market. The ACA actually increased the monopoly power of innovators in the expensive biologic drug market, which still boggles my mind. One of the big fights in the pharmaceutical industry over the past several years has been for control of the generics market. To oversimplify: as patents expire and generics become possible, would-be generic manufacturers still have to pass FDA approval before bringing their drug to market. Historically, rather than take their generic through the lengthy clinical trial process, they've taken advantage of an alternative route: if a generic manufacturer can show that its drug is (substantively) chemically identical to an approved drug, it can use its data to pass FDA muster, making the process far quicker, simpler, and cheaper. Well, ACA gave major manufacturers a huge carrot in this process in terms of biologics (a particular, new class of complex pharmaceuticals manufactured using biological rather than chemical processes) -- data exclusivity for 14 years following approval of a biologic. In other words, even if a biologic's patent expires earlier, a generic (in this case, called "biosimilar") drug manufacturer cannot bring its product to market unless it a) conducts its own clinical trials or b) waits 14 years following approval of the original. On top of that, biosimilarity has become a pretty huge issue with the FDA, with Phrma and a few non-Phrma pharmaceutical companies pushing hard for a narrow classification, which would cut off many drugs from using past data at all (effectively making bringing them to market cost-prohibitive even after the patent and data exclusivity terms lapse on the original biologic).

That's a narrow example, but it's a very expensive one. These are the kinds of drugs you hear about alongside the new Hep C drugs in terms of crazy pricing. With the Medicaid drug rebate program rules (which require state Medicaid programs to cover drugs manufactured by participating manufacturers, regardless of price), these are driving crazy cost spikes in the market. I remember a few years back when Sovaldi came to market with a sticker price north of $80,000 for a round of treatment and very limited prior authorizations out there. The cost ran into the tens of millions for several states before they could crack down and it still runs into the millions every year for pretty much every state. That's for a drug that is only necessary and appropriate for a few hundred covered people.

True, but rate requests are often similar in the states of the parent company. Blue Cross premium hikes in Texas, Oklahoma could mean Illinois sticker shock
BCBS of Illinois's (or HCSC) subsidiaries are BCBS in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Montana.

I think that article mistakes rate increases moving in tandem with rate increases driven by costs in other states. I'm actually not sure if it's the article (which really doesn't go there) so much as the headline writer (which does, implicitly). Hikes in TX/OK/NM/MT may be predictive of hikes in IL, but they generally cannot be causative of those hikes. Late in the article, one of the experts they interviewed actually references the set of laws I was referring to in my original reply when he says that insurers aren't permitted to make up losses from previous years in rate increases. There are fairly tight controls on what elements can be used to generate an insurance rate -- historical trends, known changes to risk mix, utilization projections, sometimes market-specific inflation -- but an insurer is generally prohibited from baking losses or external costs into their rates. Commissioners' level of control is going to vary by state, but that's a standard from NAIC, so it should be at least fairly ubiquitous.

Obesity Prevention Source: Economic Costs (Harvard School of Public Health)

NEW DATA SHOWS OBESITY COSTS WILL GROW TO $344 BILLION BY 2018

So, there's an issue I have with all of these kinds of studies (well, not with the studies per se, but more with their use for present purposes) -- obesity costs are certainly rising and they have an annual cost relative to the costs of a healthy person, but determining that they represent a cost to the system requires more than an annual cost, it requires a lifetime cost. What I mean by that is really opaque, so I'm going to try to clarify through very (absurdly) extreme examples. Imagine that the annual chronic care cost of an obese individual is $1, the annual chronic care cost of a healthy individual is $0, and the annual chronic care cost of an aged individual is $10. Imagine further that an obese individual lives 50 years and a healthy individual lives 70, the last 20 of which fall into the "aged" category. So, an obese person will cost $50 over the course of his life, while a healthy person will cost $200, simply by virtue of the fact that the obese person dies before they can pass into the truly expensive "aged" category. Now, even if the costs of obesity triple (roughly in line with the Emory study), obesity will still be a net savings to the health care system simply because the typical obese person died before he could become truly expensive. The Harvard study also falls into this gap -- it compares the cost of care of an obese person to the cost of care of a healthy person, which is perfect for figuring annual cost (e.g. for determining insurance risk) but is incomplete for determining whether obesity costs the country money.

I want to be clear that I'm not saying obesity is a savings. Just that it's extremely difficult to determine the cost of chronic disease on the overall cost of care. It's the same problem we run into when trying to find savings through improved population health -- it's an incredibly complicated and murky issue. One more thought and I'll leave it: an individual is virtually free to insure for most of his life. It's expensive to be born and then it's almost free to live from 1 to about 55. After that, your costs skyrocket to the point that we'll spend roughly as much in your last year of life as we did on your first 50. Extending life is a wonderful thing, but it's also had the effect of extending the amount of time our population spends in this incredibly expensive span of life. I don't have a good answer for how we bring that in line -- healthy living isn't it -- but it's one of the hard questions of health care funding.

We find that, between 2004 and 2014, average payments for deductibles and coinsurance rose considerably faster than the overall cost for covered benefits, while the average payments for copayments fell. As can be seen in the chart below, over this time period, patient cost-sharing rose substantially faster than payments for care by health plans as insurance coverage became a little less generous.

I actually think that's a bit of a positive outcome of the change. Health insurance is an inherently unhealthy mechanism for financing the purchasing of health care services. To the extent that the change creates the use of prices as actual signals, I think that's a positive change. Of course, it's an unstable, painful change, as well.

Marketshare of Health Insurance 2014
BCBS 37%
Anthem 15%
United 13%
Aetna 11%
Cigna 6%

Others 17%

And here's the inverse -- an extremely negative change. Unless you're a fan of single payer, I suppose.
 

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For everyone that doesn't know, bundled payments are coming next year for hip and knee procedures. Basically the government is going to dictate length of stay, home visits, etc.

Getting sick or being an outlier is going to be a extremely frowned upon and medicate will not pay the same in that event. Buckle your seat belts bc customer service is going down the drain quickly
 

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For everyone that doesn't know, bundled payments are coming next year for hip and knee procedures. Basically the government is going to dictate length of stay, home visits, etc.

Getting sick or being an outlier is going to be a extremely frowned upon and medicate will not pay the same in that event. Buckle your seat belts bc customer service is going down the drain quickly

For those who do not know, bundled payments are the standard reimbursement method in which a hospital is paid for a certain amount of days based on the classification of a diagnosis. For example, a heart attack will be classified as an Inpatient stay, reimbursed for three days, which can be extended day-by-day if a patient has complications and not meeting criteria for discharge. (The other classification is Observation or Outpatient - a one day reimbursement.) Bundled payments have been around for a few years with different diagnoses and procedures being phased in.

The hospital can divide up the money however it wants to for the different professions and costs involved in the patient's care. They must justify any extension and, if the patient is ready and discharged earlier like a two day stay, the hospital keeps the full three day payment. If they discharge in four days when the patient is ready for discharge at three days, they eat the fourth day.

The idea is to lower overall health care costs by shifting the burden of managing effective care to the hospital and provider. From the health insurance company's standpoint - or the payer, this simplifies things and they can deny payment if a hospital cannot justify the admitting diagnosis, the treatments, or prolonged hospitalized stays. Prior to this, the federal government and private health insurance paid bills and, obviously, had difficulty determining inflated costs.

Private insurances do not have to follow federal reimbursement guidelines for federal reimbursement, but they almost always do. It's not that the federal government is telling them what to do. They can choose another payment method.

These can also stimulate some innovative solutions, but may increase tensions between providers and hospitals - and sometimes patients.

Replacing joints faster, cheaper and better?

Building on advances in surgical technique, anesthesia and pain control, a small but growing number of surgeons around the country are moving more of their total joint replacement procedures out of the hospital, performing these lucrative operations in outpatient facilities. Some are sending their patients home within a few hours, while others have their patients recover overnight in the surgery center or hospital during 23-hour stays. These surgeons say very few of their patients require skilled nursing, rehab or home healthcare.
 
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For everyone that doesn't know, bundled payments are coming next year for hip and knee procedures. Basically the government is going to dictate length of stay, home visits, etc.

Getting sick or being an outlier is going to be a extremely frowned upon and medicate will not pay the same in that event. Buckle your seat belts bc customer service is going down the drain quickly

While there are definite downsides to bundled payments, they are a step away from dictation of services, not toward. And this isn't a new concept -- private and public insurers have all kinds of bundled, global, or similar payment systems. The twist with this is that it will be mandatory (for 5 years in 67 markets; it's a pilot to study the effects). To understand that, it's important to understand what bundling is:

If you're one of my beneficiaries and you go in for a procedure, my payments for your care are very fragmented. I'll pay for labs and services based on several fee schedules, if you stay overnight, I'll pay the hospital a per diem, I'll cover your pharmaceuticals based on any of a number of schedules, etc. If you go back for complications or a follow-up, I'll pay for that on the same basis.

To move from that to an episodic bundled payment, I aggregate all of those payments for an entire "episode" (i.e. the entire scope of treatment, including follow-ups and complications, relating to one condition or event). Then I average my payments for all episodes of a particular condition or event, adjust for outliers and demography, and I know about what I spend on a "typical" episode of care. In bundling, I offer providers an all-inclusive rate (it might be the typical rate or it might be less depending on whether I'm trying to shift risk or reduce cost or both) in exchange for providing care. Any excess costs (e.g. from complications) are their responsibility and any savings are their benefit. I'm basically asking providers to bet that they can do better than the market. To the extent that my piecemeal payment system incentivizes them to give unnecessary care, they can make money by doing it more efficiently.

Bundling has downsides. Providers have an incentive to dump risky patients and seek out healthy ones. You need strong quality checks to ensure they don't just go around externalizing costs to the patients or the population. But it's not the government dictating length of stay or really any of the particulars of care; in fact, it's really the opposite in all respects but access and quality measures. Without bundling, my incentive as an insurer is to reduce services, because I'm at risk for both the likelihood you get sick and for the cost of your care. By externalizing the latter to the provider, I no longer have to care about the cost of your care (i.e. "performance risk") and now only really care about the likelihood that you get sick (i.e. "insurance risk").
 

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Bundling has downsides. Providers have an incentive to dump risky patients and seek out healthy ones. You need strong quality checks to ensure they don't just go around externalizing costs to the patients or the population. But it's not the government dictating length of stay or really any of the particulars of care; in fact, it's really the opposite in all respects but access and quality measures. Without bundling, my incentive as an insurer is to reduce services, because I'm at risk for both the likelihood you get sick and for the cost of your care. By externalizing the latter to the provider, I no longer have to care about the cost of your care (i.e. "performance risk") and now only really care about the likelihood that you get sick (i.e. "insurance risk").

One group that every insurance company will compete for is the Medicare-age patients. Though the older one gets, the more health problems and procedures a person can get, longevity also can indicate a degree of health with lower risk in some of the group to help balance out higher risk patients. Providers don't like "straight" Medicare, but prefer "Advantage" Medicare patients, whose benefits are assigned to the insurance company for monthly payments. Advantage programs are usually paid around $1000 per month by the federal government. Providers may be paid less than private payers pay for an office visit, say $20 per visit. But the health plan may subsidize the provider for the network patients (Advantage program) they see. Providers may limit the number of federal program patients they see in their practice or, if independent, may refuse to take any.

Medicare: Inpatient or Outpatient?
Staying in the hospital without being formally admitted can cost you thousands of dollars
(AARP) Good site for other info regardless of age.

More Medicare-age patients may see more out-of-pocket bills for services, as out-of-network providers who are not reimbursed bill them for services. It's the healthcare system we have currently.
 

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While there are definite downsides to bundled payments, they are a step away from dictation of services, not toward. And this isn't a new concept -- private and public insurers have all kinds of bundled, global, or similar payment systems. The twist with this is that it will be mandatory (for 5 years in 67 markets; it's a pilot to study the effects). To understand that, it's important to understand what bundling is:

If you're one of my beneficiaries and you go in for a procedure, my payments for your care are very fragmented. I'll pay for labs and services based on several fee schedules, if you stay overnight, I'll pay the hospital a per diem, I'll cover your pharmaceuticals based on any of a number of schedules, etc. If you go back for complications or a follow-up, I'll pay for that on the same basis.

To move from that to an episodic bundled payment, I aggregate all of those payments for an entire "episode" (i.e. the entire scope of treatment, including follow-ups and complications, relating to one condition or event). Then I average my payments for all episodes of a particular condition or event, adjust for outliers and demography, and I know about what I spend on a "typical" episode of care. In bundling, I offer providers an all-inclusive rate (it might be the typical rate or it might be less depending on whether I'm trying to shift risk or reduce cost or both) in exchange for providing care. Any excess costs (e.g. from complications) are their responsibility and any savings are their benefit. I'm basically asking providers to bet that they can do better than the market. To the extent that my piecemeal payment system incentivizes them to give unnecessary care, they can make money by doing it more efficiently.

Bundling has downsides. Providers have an incentive to dump risky patients and seek out healthy ones. You need strong quality checks to ensure they don't just go around externalizing costs to the patients or the population. But it's not the government dictating length of stay or really any of the particulars of care; in fact, it's really the opposite in all respects but access and quality measures. Without bundling, my incentive as an insurer is to reduce services, because I'm at risk for both the likelihood you get sick and for the cost of your care. By externalizing the latter to the provider, I no longer have to care about the cost of your care (i.e. "performance risk") and now only really care about the likelihood that you get sick (i.e. "insurance risk").

They do that now. A University hospital close to me was removing fluid from a hip joint, and tried to tell me that was an "injection" and therefore I needed to pay 350 bucks for that outside my insurance...I'm usually pretty calm, but this time I freakin lit into the billing lady so bad she had to go get a supervisor and a security guard...ooops. Turns out it was a coding mistake...yea, ya fuckin' think so? Have had my daughter have multiple hip surgeries...and every damned time they are trying to pinch you for 500 bucks here, 350 there, 75 here...it is ridiculous. The point is, when I get the insurance company involved, that shit gets straight in a hurry...so, how is that watchdog part of the insurance company going to work? You can't honestly think people can be the watchdog on their own...so how?
 

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They do that now. A University hospital close to me was removing fluid from a hip joint, and tried to tell me that was an "injection" and therefore I needed to pay 350 bucks for that outside my insurance...I'm usually pretty calm, but this time I freakin lit into the billing lady so bad she had to go get a supervisor and a security guard...ooops. Turns out it was a coding mistake...yea, ya fuckin' think so? Have had my daughter have multiple hip surgeries...and every damned time they are trying to pinch you for 500 bucks here, 350 there, 75 here...it is ridiculous. The point is, when I get the insurance company involved, that shit gets straight in a hurry...so, how is that watchdog part of the insurance company going to work? You can't honestly think people can be the watchdog on their own...so how?

While this may not literally be fraud, hospitals are very sensitive to address any difficulties. Some recent federal changes have made them address these issues quickly. First, reimbursement can be affected by patient satisfaction survey scores. (an article with pros and cons.... The Problem With Satisfied Patients
Beginning in October 2012, the Affordable Care Act implemented a policy withholding 1 percent of total Medicare reimbursements—approximately $850 million—from hospitals (that percentage will double in 2017). Each year, only hospitals with high patient-satisfaction scores and a measure of certain basic care standards will earn that money back, and the top performers will receive bonus money from the pool.
Second, with a recent federal mandate with Obamacare of the electronic medical record, it is very easy for the government and private insurances to now pull cases on any number of criteria, say, the billing code or a procedure. Your insurance company may be concerned that other patients of theirs are being similarly billed. They have complaint lines.
For example,
Understanding Healthcare Fraud (from Blue Cross Blue Shield - with Advice)

The hospital usually has patient complaint reps or advocates. You can file a formal complaint with them or a formal appeal if not satisfied with their responses. There are whistleblower lines if you get that far.

Some perspective on extent of "provider fraud" problem:
Medicare’s “Big Data” Tools Fight & Prevent Fraud to Yield Over $1.5 Billion in Savings

The Challenge of Health Care Fraud (National Heath Care Anti-fraud Association)

Hundreds arrested for $900 million worth of health care fraud
 
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They do that now. A University hospital close to me was removing fluid from a hip joint, and tried to tell me that was an "injection" and therefore I needed to pay 350 bucks for that outside my insurance...I'm usually pretty calm, but this time I freakin lit into the billing lady so bad she had to go get a supervisor and a security guard...ooops. Turns out it was a coding mistake...yea, ya fuckin' think so? Have had my daughter have multiple hip surgeries...and every damned time they are trying to pinch you for 500 bucks here, 350 there, 75 here...it is ridiculous. The point is, when I get the insurance company involved, that shit gets straight in a hurry...so, how is that watchdog part of the insurance company going to work? You can't honestly think people can be the watchdog on their own...so how?

I'm not sure where you got the impression I was suggesting that the insured would police quality measures in a bundled payment structure. That function is very much a function of the insurer. In fact, it's probably the component that garners the most internal attention when bundled payments are created. Maybe it was my loose usage of the word "you" in that sentence? That refers to the insurer.

I want to talk about your specific point, though. There are a few things going on here and they move in various directions. Three significant practices: balance billing, surcharging, and upcoding. Balance billing is the practice of billing an insured for any sums not reimbursed by the insurer (e.g. noncovered services). Many insurers prohibit that practice in traditional arrangements; in bundled payments, an integral part of the agreement is that there is no balance left to bill; the provider accepts the bundled payment as payment in full. Surcharging is the practice of tacking on fees for ancillary, uncovered services. Similar to balance billing -- your insurer's agreement with the provider dictates whether or not this is permissible in a traditional arrangement; in a bundled payment arrangement, it should be prohibited as above. Upcoding is the practice of billing for a related-but-more-expensive service than actually delivered. It's fraud if it's intentional. In general, the insurer is the watchdog on this issue, regardless of the payment structure and the insurer bears the financial burden (as does the insured in the case of coinsurance). Bundled payments make it slightly more difficult to upcode and easier to police, but they don't shift that policing from the insurer to the insured.

These (and your example) are all separate from what I was referring to; they exist in both payment structures and the burden of controlling them is largely unchanged. The measures I was referring to are less individual -- patient dumping, care rationing, throttled services. Those are the issues bundled payment increases. Not provider-patient billing games.
 

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I'm not sure where you got the impression I was suggesting that the insured would police quality measures in a bundled payment structure. That function is very much a function of the insurer. In fact, it's probably the component that garners the most internal attention when bundled payments are created. Maybe it was my loose usage of the word "you" in that sentence? That refers to the insurer.

I want to talk about your specific point, though. There are a few things going on here and they move in various directions. Three significant practices: balance billing, surcharging, and upcoding. Balance billing is the practice of billing an insured for any sums not reimbursed by the insurer (e.g. noncovered services). Many insurers prohibit that practice in traditional arrangements; in bundled payments, an integral part of the agreement is that there is no balance left to bill; the provider accepts the bundled payment as payment in full. Surcharging is the practice of tacking on fees for ancillary, uncovered services. Similar to balance billing -- your insurer's agreement with the provider dictates whether or not this is permissible in a traditional arrangement; in a bundled payment arrangement, it should be prohibited as above. Upcoding is the practice of billing for a related-but-more-expensive service than actually delivered. It's fraud if it's intentional. In general, the insurer is the watchdog on this issue, regardless of the payment structure and the insurer bears the financial burden (as does the insured in the case of coinsurance). Bundled payments make it slightly more difficult to upcode and easier to police, but they don't shift that policing from the insurer to the insured.

These (and your example) are all separate from what I was referring to; they exist in both payment structures and the burden of controlling them is largely unchanged. The measures I was referring to are less individual -- patient dumping, care rationing, throttled services. Those are the issues bundled payment increases. Not provider-patient billing games.


Thanks for the clarification...I way misunderstood what you were getting at. The bolded is a good news story. I see "miscoding" of services almost every time anyone in my family has more than a checkup...sometimes its defrauding the insurance company with shit no one did, sometimes its trying to squeeze me outside the contract ala the "injection". ...I just get motivated to dig in when I think someone is screwing me...but I think thats like 20% of the population...the other 80 get taken for a ride...thats why I was concerned about the role of the insurance company playing referee here.
 

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Thanks, again, for several more fantastic posts. The irony of this mindset among legislators is that the pharmaceutical marketplace is almost the polar opposite of a functional, free market. Much of the business model is premised on capturing profits during the period of government-sponsored monopoly (i.e. patents) and discouraging competitors from bringing their products to market. The ACA actually increased the monopoly power of innovators in the expensive biologic drug market, which still boggles my mind.

We need Congress to act on this - or are they continuing to support this monopoly?

One of the big fights in the pharmaceutical industry over the past several years has been for control of the generics market. To oversimplify: as patents expire and generics become possible, would-be generic manufacturers still have to pass FDA approval before bringing their drug to market. Historically, rather than take their generic through the lengthy clinical trial process, they've taken advantage of an alternative route: if a generic manufacturer can show that its drug is (substantively) chemically identical to an approved drug, it can use its data to pass FDA muster, making the process far quicker, simpler, and cheaper.

I'm all for cutting red tape, but not at the expense of consumer safety. Generics save hundreds of millions of dollars yearly. But plans switch generic manufacturers and, for whatever reason, generics from India may not work as well on an individual as one from Canada, for example, for that person. FDA says multiple clinical trials show 3.5% of a difference in generic and trade when they looked at cardiovascular drugs.

Well, ACA gave major manufacturers a huge carrot in this process in terms of biologics (a particular, new class of complex pharmaceuticals manufactured using biological rather than chemical processes) -- data exclusivity for 14 years following approval of a biologic. In other words, even if a biologic's patent expires earlier, a generic (in this case, called "biosimilar") drug manufacturer cannot bring its product to market unless it a) conducts its own clinical trials or b) waits 14 years following approval of the original.

Is this FDA colluding with Big Pharma, or following Congress's guidance? What is the usual expiration period for non-biologics?

On top of that, biosimilarity has become a pretty huge issue with the FDA, with Phrma and a few non-Phrma pharmaceutical companies pushing hard for a narrow classification, which would cut off many drugs from using past data at all (effectively making bringing them to market cost-prohibitive even after the patent and data exclusivity terms lapse on the original biologic).

How is the subsequent huge price increases managed in other countries like the E.U. ones? Does "socialized medicine" in the U.K. or Canada or Germany, for instance, have the same problem with costs? Or do they have different regulatory mechanisms that are more effective?

That's a narrow example, but it's a very expensive one. These are the kinds of drugs you hear about alongside the new Hep C drugs in terms of crazy pricing. With the Medicaid drug rebate program rules (which require state Medicaid programs to cover drugs manufactured by participating manufacturers, regardless of price), these are driving crazy cost spikes in the market. I remember a few years back when Sovaldi came to market with a sticker price north of $80,000 for a round of treatment and very limited prior authorizations out there. The cost ran into the tens of millions for several states before they could crack down and it still runs into the millions every year for pretty much every state. That's for a drug that is only necessary and appropriate for a few hundred covered people.

And then the cost of cancer medicines...The High Cost of Cancer Drugs and What We Can Do About It (Offers some solutions) Is the solution regulatory?

Projecting Income and assets:
What might the future hold for the next generation of medicare
beneficiaries?


Conclusion
While a small share of the Medicare population lives on relatively high incomes, most are of modest means, with half of people on Medicare living on less than $21,000 in 2010. The typical beneficiary has some savings and home equity, but asset values are highly skewed and are significantly higher for white beneficiaries than for black or Hispanic beneficiaries. The income and assets of Medicare beneficiaries overall are projected to be somewhat greater in 2030 than in 2010; yet, only a minority of the next generation of beneficiaries will have significantly higher incomes and assets than the current generation, with much of the growth projected to be concentrated among those with relatively high incomes. Racial disparities in both income and assets are projected to persist for the next decades. As policymakers consider options for decreasing federal Medicare spending and addressing the federal debt and deficit, this analysis raises questions about the extent to which the next generation of Medicare beneficiaries will be able to bear a larger share of costs.

Recent stats - Health care costs are the source of 38% of all debt collected from consumers. And, Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies: Study


I think that article mistakes rate increases moving in tandem with rate increases driven by costs in other states. I'm actually not sure if it's the article (which really doesn't go there) so much as the headline writer (which does, implicitly). Hikes in TX/OK/NM/MT may be predictive of hikes in IL, but they generally cannot be causative of those hikes. Late in the article, one of the experts they interviewed actually references the set of laws I was referring to in my original reply when he says that insurers aren't permitted to make up losses from previous years in rate increases. There are fairly tight controls on what elements can be used to generate an insurance rate -- historical trends, known changes to risk mix, utilization projections, sometimes market-specific inflation -- but an insurer is generally prohibited from baking losses or external costs into their rates. Commissioners' level of control is going to vary by state, but that's a standard from NAIC, so it should be at least fairly ubiquitous.

I did not intend to imply that at all. Insurers aren't allowed to get rate hikes to cover losses in other plans or in other state plans. Thank you for your clarifications. That doesn't mean that the parent company, e.g. BCBS of Illinois, does not coordinate operations, policies and procedures, of course. Rate requests in subsidiaries could be reflective of the insurers' effectiveness of managing costs throughout their subsidiaries, for instance.

There's a formula many state regulatory commissions use which includes the amount of money on hand for unseen losses - a "rainy day fund". Of course, all BCBSs exceed those amounts by a long shot. So, if rate increases were granted using those criteria, BCBS might be getting single digit annual increases?


So, there's an issue I have with all of these kinds of studies (well, not with the studies per se, but more with their use for present purposes) -- obesity costs are certainly rising and they have an annual cost relative to the costs of a healthy person, but determining that they represent a cost to the system requires more than an annual cost, it requires a lifetime cost. What I mean by that is really opaque, so I'm going to try to clarify through very (absurdly) extreme examples. Imagine that the annual chronic care cost of an obese individual is $1, the annual chronic care cost of a healthy individual is $0, and the annual chronic care cost of an aged individual is $10. Imagine further that an obese individual lives 50 years and a healthy individual lives 70, the last 20 of which fall into the "aged" category. So, an obese person will cost $50 over the course of his life, while a healthy person will cost $200, simply by virtue of the fact that the obese person dies before they can pass into the truly expensive "aged" category. Now, even if the costs of obesity triple (roughly in line with the Emory study), obesity will still be a net savings to the health care system simply because the typical obese person died before he could become truly expensive. The Harvard study also falls into this gap -- it compares the cost of care of an obese person to the cost of care of a healthy person, which is perfect for figuring annual cost (e.g. for determining insurance risk) but is incomplete for determining whether obesity costs the country money.

Obesity is a huge cost to taxpayers and insurance companies - $300 billion a year. Hope this explains how the studies reach this conclusion. Certainly, if someone dies at 70 vs an obese individual dies at 50 with the same amount of health care and productivity, the costs might be similar. But there are so many direct, indirect and life-prolonging therapies for the complications from obesity. (see CDC link in O.P. and tell us what you think.)
Budget Busting U.S. Obesity Costs Climb Past $300 Billion a Year

I want to be clear that I'm not saying obesity is a savings. Just that it's extremely difficult to determine the cost of chronic disease on the overall cost of care. It's the same problem we run into when trying to find savings through improved population health -- it's an incredibly complicated and murky issue. One more thought and I'll leave it: an individual is virtually free to insure for most of his life. It's expensive to be born and then it's almost free to live from 1 to about 55. After that, your costs skyrocket to the point that we'll spend roughly as much in your last year of life as we did on your first 50. Extending life is a wonderful thing, but it's also had the effect of extending the amount of time our population spends in this incredibly expensive span of life. I don't have a good answer for how we bring that in line -- healthy living isn't it -- but it's one of the hard questions of health care funding.

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I actually think that's a bit of a positive outcome of the change. Health insurance is an inherently unhealthy mechanism for financing the purchasing of health care services. To the extent that the change creates the use of prices as actual signals, I think that's a positive change. Of course, it's an unstable, painful change, as well.

In the end, individuals have to bear the primary responsibility for their health. Those of us who pursue healthy lifestyles are low risk, but are combined with high-risk people to manage risk. It reminds me of how mortgages are bundled except that those with low risk mortgages are not impacted (except for Wall St excesses) with rate increases due to high risk mortgages.

And here's the inverse -- an extremely negative change. Unless you're a fan of single payer, I suppose.


(On five health care insurances dominating the market - my insert)

With 83% of the health insurance marketplace dominated by five companies in the industry, the pricing power, if left unchecked, would be intimidating. Will Congress correct the factors that severely impacting the consumer? But it's free market capitalism - like the drug industry.

How would a single payer system benefit the consumer? Or does this just worsen?
 
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The new ICD ten codes are absolute joke. Way way way over the top. Makes coding nearly impossible and ins companies a way to get out of reimbursement
 

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While this may not literally be fraud, hospitals are very sensitive to address any difficulties. Some recent federal changes have made them address these issues quickly. First, reimbursement can be affected by patient satisfaction survey scores. (an article with pros and cons.... The Problem With Satisfied Patients

Second, with a recent federal mandate with Obamacare of the electronic medical record, it is very easy for the government and private insurances to now pull cases on any number of criteria, say, the billing code or a procedure. Your insurance company may be concerned that other patients of theirs are being similarly billed. They have complaint lines.
For example,
Understanding Healthcare Fraud (from Blue Cross Blue Shield - with Advice)

The hospital usually has patient complaint reps or advocates. You can file a formal complaint with them or a formal appeal if not satisfied with their responses. There are whistleblower lines if you get that far.

Some perspective on extent of "provider fraud" problem:
Medicare’s “Big Data” Tools Fight & Prevent Fraud to Yield Over $1.5 Billion in Savings

The Challenge of Health Care Fraud (National Heath Care Anti-fraud Association)

Hundreds arrested for $900 million worth of health care fraud

Thanks, I read a lot of this. Good to know. Originally, my concern was misplaced regarding bundled payments etc. because it sounds like all of the critical oversight, if you will, remains.

I hadn't had much luck trying to have a lucid discussion with hospital or Dr.'s billing reps, or even gotten to a complaint rep. Knowing they exist is helpful. The tool I've used to "clarify" billing "mistakes" is to call the insurance company, and just walk through the bill, and explain what was done. They know pretty quickly if something is mis-represented. Conversely, when the insurance company tries to pull a dick move, (like providing authorization for a procedure, and then refusing to pay) the state of Utah has pretty aggressive insurance regulators, and they do work pretty quickly.
 
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