Future BE schedules

[lattedatte]

As of 1/2/07, these are teams that are on future schedules for some of the BE teams, can we please stop saying they don't schedule anyone. They've had a couple yrs. of suspect schedules becuase of the "big 3" defected. End of story, feel free to look up and verify.

Louisville: Utah, Oregon St, Ga.
WVU: Michigan St, Auburn, Florida St., Maryland
Rutgers: Notre Dame(for 7 yrs), Maryland, Navy
South Florida: Auburn, Miami(fl), NC State, Florida, Mich State
Cinci: Ohio St, VT, NC State, Fresno St.
Syracuse: PSU, ND, Wake Forest, VT, Washington
Pitt: wow see below

Pitt Future Football Schedules
2007

Sept. 1 Bowling Green

Sept. 8 Grambling

Sept. 15 at Michigan State

Sept. 29 at Virginia

Oct. 13 Navy

2008

Sept. 13 Central Florida

Sept. 20 Iowa

Oct. 18 at Navy

Nov. 1 at Notre Dame

2009

Sept. 12 Central Florida

Sept. 19 Navy

Sept. 26 at NC State

Nov. 14 Notre Dame

2010

Sept. 11 Miami (Fla.)

Sept. 18 Clemson

Oct. 9 at Notre Dame


2011

Sept. 3 at Iowa

Sept. 17 at Clemson

Sept. 24 Notre Dame

Oct. 1 at Navy

2012

Sept. 15 Virginia Tech

Sept. 22 at Notre Dame

2013

Sept. 14 at Virginia Tech

Sept. 21 NC State

Nov. 9 Notre Dame

2014

Nov. 8 at Notre Dame

2015

Sept. 19 at Iowa

Nov. 14 Notre Dame

Big East

2016

Sept. 17 Iowa

Big East

Home: Louisville, Rutgers, West Virginia

Away: Cincinnati, Connecticut, South Florida, Syracuse

 

[solo]

As of 1/2/07, these are teams that are on future schedules for some of the BE teams, can we please stop saying they don't schedule anyone. They've had a couple yrs. of suspect schedules becuase of the "big 3" defected. End of story, feel free to look up and verify.

Louisville: Utah, Oregon St, Ga.
WVU: Michigan St, Auburn, Florida St., Maryland
Rutgers: Notre Dame(for 7 yrs), Maryland, Navy
South Florida: Auburn, Miami(fl), NC State, Florida, Mich State
Cinci: Ohio St, VT, NC State, Fresno St.
Syracuse: PSU, ND, Wake Forest, VT, Washington
Pitt: wow see below

Rutgers doesn't have anyone good ont he schedule until 2010 when they play us.

Louisville's schedule gets tougher in 2010 and beyond. Until then games against GT and Utah are about as tough as they scheduled.

West Va has Aubrin coming up quickly. And a few games witgh MD.

I don't count Navy as a quality opponent. Maryland either. Friedgen was able to win with the previous coaches recruits but not his own. But the conference does have some quality opponents on board mostly after 2010. So it really does appear that they scheduled down for a period.

 

[Guest]

Good to see them schedule better teams, their recruiting is much improved also, WVU, Pitt, and UL might all have top 25 classes by signing day, and Rutgers recruiting has certainly improved from prior classes.

 

[lattedatte]

Rutgers doesn't have anyone good ont he schedule until 2010 when they play us.

Louisville's schedule gets tougher in 2010 and beyond. Until then games against GT and Utah are about as tough as they scheduled.

West Va has Aubrin coming up quickly. And a few games witgh MD.

I don't count Navy as a quality opponent. Maryland either. Friedgen was able to win with the previous coaches recruits but not his own. But the conference does have some quality opponents on board mostly after 2010. So it really does appear that they scheduled down for a period.

I really don't know what to say then.. you want them to schedule teams and they have. Don't forget that they have sought out opponents that will not play them in a home and home. Many from the SEC wants and Penn St want want two home games to one. I don't blame them for not playing them in that scenario.

 

[solo]

I really don't know what to say then.. you want them to schedule teams and they have. Don't forget that they have sought out opponents that will not play them in a home and home. Many from the SEC wants and Penn St want want two home games to one. I don't blame them for not playing them in that scenario.

Here's my philosophy. If you play in a weak conference, you should schedule up. The Big East has not been a power conference since it;s establishment. Many of the teams in it have been good at one time or another, but they haven't been able to all be pretty good at once. It's been a mediocre to bad football conference in my opinion. So if your in confeence games consist of UConn, South Florida, Syracuse, Cinci, Rutgers (who was a patsy until this season), etc, you should try to make the OOC schedule strong.

But the big 3 of the Big East scheduled cupcakes thus year and pretty much did so up to 2010. That's just wrong in my opinion. The Big East OOC schedules appear to be much stronger after 2010. But they should be ashamed of who is on the schedule until 2010. That's all I'm saying. If your conference wants respect you gotta earn it.

 

[njuneardave]

it's good that they are finding better teams to play. the harder schedules will bring validity to the Big East if they can win their games.

however, navy can't be considered a quality opponent when people mock Notre Dame for scheduling them every year.

 

[lattedatte]

it's good that they are finding better teams to play. the harder schedules will bring validity to the Big East if they can win their games.

however, navy can't be considered a quality opponent when people mock Notre Dame for scheduling them every year.

Beating the SEC and ACC champ in consecutive years has given this conference the credibilty it deserves. Once Pitt gets back to being a top 25 team, they'll be a mighty fine conference. Since they have only 8 teams they'll never be the best. But at the top they are as good as it gets and becuase of that they deservce a BCS berth as much as anyone. As I posted in another thread they are around the 3rd or 4th best conference overall.

Navy is better than anyone Wisky or Florida played in non-conference, rip on them for a while.

 

[njuneardave]

im not a big east hater, latte. i agree that they have proven themselves in their bowl games against the SEC and ACC champ... altho the ACC champ isn't as glamorous as it sounds. Florida had a very hard schedule, so I will not rip on them... Wisky had a terrible schedule as well, but they took down Arkansas, which was a great win for them. i agree that the top of the Big East is good but the rest is mediocre.... i think we see eye-to-eye on this issue =)

 

[solo]

Beating the SEC and ACC champ in consecutive years has given this conference the credibilty it deserves. Once Pitt gets back to being a top 25 team, they'll be a mighty fine conference. Since they have only 8 teams they'll never be the best. But at the top they are as good as it gets and becuase of that they deservce a BCS berth as much as anyone. As I posted in another thread they are around the 3rd or 4th best conference overall.

Navy is better than anyone Wisky or Florida played in non-conference, rip on them for a while.

Florida played FSU, who even in a down year would destroy Navy. But they also played GA, LSU, Tenn, Auburn, South Carolina. In fact, I believe Florida's schedule was rated toughest in the nation. Tough to rip them for that.

I'm not trying to bust your chops here. The Big East DESERVES the criticism it is getting this year for shceduling all cupcakes. You know who scheduled this year in the Big East? Cinicnatti. They played VT and Ohio State OOC. If they had schedules Temple and Duke like theother Big East powers did, Cinci could have finuished 9-3 rather than 7-5. But they opted not to take the easy route.

When WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville are scheduling games loke Cinci did, then I will have more respect for the conference. But right now, the Big 3 of the Big East scheduled down and deserve to be criticized for it. You can't point to schedules in 2010 and use that for props today. When 2010 gets here and the BE schedules are improved, I will be complimenting them on a job well done. Today, they are getting chastized for the aweful OOC schedules they played this year.

PS...In my eyes, your argument would look much more credible if you would just own up to the patsy schedules. Just admit that the conference deserves to be criticized for the OOC schedules this year, THEN point to the tougher schedules of the future.

 

[lattedatte]

Florida played FSU, who even in a down year would destroy Navy. But they also played GA, LSU, Tenn, Auburn, South Carolina. In fact, I believe Florida's schedule was rated toughest in the nation. Tough to rip them for that.

I'm not trying to bust your chops here. The Big East DESERVES the criticism it is getting this year for shceduling all cupcakes. You know who scheduled this year in the Big East? Cinicnatti. They played VT and Ohio State OOC. If they had schedules Temple and Duke like theother Big East powers did, Cinci could have finuished 9-3 rather than 7-5. But they opted not to take the easy route.

When WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville are scheduling games loke Cinci did, then I will have more respect for the conference. But right now, the Big 3 of the Big East scheduled down and deserve to be criticized for it. You can't point to schedules in 2010 and use that for props today. When 2010 gets here and the BE schedules are improved, I will be complimenting them on a job well done. Today, they are getting chastized for the aweful OOC schedules they played this year.

PS...In my eyes, your argument would look much more credible if you would just own up to the patsy schedules. Just admit that the conference deserves to be criticized for the OOC schedules this year, THEN point to the tougher schedules of the future.

I have said many times that their schedules this year were down but my point for WVU has always been they deserve a pass becuase of extenuating. I listed 6 reason why. If you think that WVU can call up OSU and say, shit guys, VT, Miami and BC left our conference wanna play next year, you are sadly mistaken. It just doesn't work that way. Then VT said we are tired of getting our asses handed to us by you guys, we don't wanna play, the politians telling them they have to play marshall for the good of the state and other teams just turning them down, I can't blame them for the schedule. If you are going to give credit to Florida for playing FSU, then why not Louisville for playing Miami?

 

[solo]

I have said many times that their schedules this year were down but my point for WVU has always been they deserve a pass becuase of extenuating. I listed 6 reason why. If you think that WVU can call up OSU and say, shit guys, VT, Miami and BC left our conference wanna play next year, you are sadly mistaken. It just doesn't work that way. Then VT said we are tired of getting our asses handed to us by you guys, we don't wanna play, the politians telling them they have to play marshall for the good of the state and other teams just turning them down, I can't blame them for the schedule. If you are going to give credit to Florida for playing FSU, then why not Louisville for playing Miami?

I gave credit to Cinci for scheduling up and to Florida for playing the toughest schedule in the nation. The comment about FSU was not really props, just stating that FSU is a more credible game than Navy. Somewhere in this thread Navy was mentioned as an example of the Big East schedule improving and I believe it was mentioned that Florida scheduled nobody OOC. FSU year in and year out is generally a big game on anyone's schedule.

Louisville scheduled Miami, that was a credible thing to do. They can't help it that Miami was down this year. But in general, the best teams in the BE scheduled down. "Nobody will play us" is an excuse. Why are teams like Nebraska and Arkansas scheduling with USC but not WVU? Probably because WVU didn't come calling.

By the way, VT was not scared of WVU. The Hokies beat WVU 7 of the last 10 times including the last 2 meetings. So I doubt that VT was "tired of getting their asses handed to them" by WVU because that just hasn't happened.

The Big East could have at least scheduled with respectable smaller programs rather than patsies. I bet they could play the likes of TCU, Fresno State, Hawaii, Boise Sta, Nevada, BYU, Tulasa, etc. Rather, they scheduled the likes of Duke and Temple. Have those teams ever been good?

I don't know how things actuallu played out. I can't tell if WVU, Louisville, anfd Rutgers actually tried rto schedule up and couldn't or just went the easy route by scheduling patsies. Regardless, they should be embarrassed for the schedules they ended up with.

 

[Aerosmith777]

Louisville scheduled Miami, that was a credible thing to do. They can't help it that Miami was down this year. But in general, the best teams in the BE scheduled down. "Nobody will play us" is an excuse. Why are teams like Nebraska and Arkansas scheduling with USC but not WVU? Probably because WVU didn't come calling.

It could also be b/c USC is a much more credible loss than WVU. Its just like college basketball. You almost never see any of the top-tier schools schedule home-and-home series w/ smaller schools (i.e. my alma mater, St. Joe's). The reason is b/c they're too scared of potentially losing the away game. If Duke loses to Kentucky that's one thing. Their season can rebound from that. If they lose to Dayton or Xavier, that's something else entirely. It's a much bigger black eye than a loss to another top team. That's why if they do play a small school, its always at home where there's a much smaller chance of getting knocked off.

Its even more true in college football. Look at Florida. They had one loss to Auburn and are in the title game. If their one loss was to a Big East school that people don't take as seriously, like WVU, would they still be in that game over Michigan? I'm not so sure.

So I could see why schools would shy away from scheduling Big East schools. Its kind of a catch-22 for the Big East, b/c the only way they're gonna gain respect is to schedule (and beat) better teams, but better teams won't schedule them b/c they don't have enough respect.

 

[njuneardave]

well put, aero. it's almost like a lose-lose situation for the other team: beat the big-east team and you were supposed to, but lose to the big-east team and you just got upset.

using this logic, it's obvious that the big east teams will have to earn respect over time if they want to schedule these powerhouses... and this is not a quick-fix problem... it will take time.

 

[lattedatte]

I concurr with Aerosmith, Pat Forde reported this severaly times and I have contacts within the WVU administration. It is also a lot about money, BTW. Every team now wants 7 home games. PSU for example refuses to play their long time rival Pitt becuase they want 2 home games to 1. You will see very few games.

My comment on WVU/VT was a bit facetious, but they didn't want to continue the relationship. I believe it was to schedule an easier team. Call it want you want.

And to solo, I've learned in life not to try to convince a republican to be liberal and democrat to be conservative. I will just agree to disagree with you about anyone being embarrased by their schedules, especially with what has happened to the BE.

 

[solo]

It could also be b/c USC is a much more credible loss than WVU. Its just like college basketball. You almost never see any of the top-tier schools schedule home-and-home series w/ smaller schools (i.e. my alma mater, St. Joe's). The reason is b/c they're too scared of potentially losing the away game. If Duke loses to Kentucky that's one thing. Their season can rebound from that. If they lose to Dayton or Xavier, that's something else entirely. It's a much bigger black eye than a loss to another top team. That's why if they do play a small school, its always at home where there's a much smaller chance of getting knocked off.

Its even more true in college football. Look at Florida. They had one loss to Auburn and are in the title game. If their one loss was to a Big East school that people don't take as seriously, like WVU, would they still be in that game over Michigan? I'm not so sure.

So I could see why schools would shy away from scheduling Big East schools. Its kind of a catch-22 for the Big East, b/c the only way they're gonna gain respect is to schedule (and beat) better teams, but better teams won't schedule them b/c they don't have enough respect.

This analogy must fall apart at some level, or the emerging programs would never be able to get good because nobody would ever play them.

Miami took a home and home with Louisville recently. ND did a 2 for 1 with WVU just a few years ago. I think had they been willing to play some 2 for 1's, they could have scheduled the big boys. But however it went down and for whatever reasons, Big East OOC schedules are really ugly presently.

 

[irish_10]

Hope to god that we don't play Rutgers in the next 2 years. They played KSU in their bowl game and destroyed KSU. (KSU is on of my other teams)

 

[solo]

Hope to god that we don't play Rutgers in the next 2 years. They played KSU in their bowl game and destroyed KSU. (KSU is on of my other teams)

Don't you want to play the best teams? Even if they are games against teams that are newly emerging, I want ND to keep the schedule relatively tough. I would have liked Rutgers to play a tough team this year. Outside of Louisville and WVU, they played an awfull easy schedule. They looked good, but tough to say just how good.