Black Woman Shot In Back Of Atlanta Police Car

[Irish Insanity]

Are you claiming that most of the chart is white people?

That angle is pathetic. I'm claiming the entire chart isn't black people and the topic we are discussing is. It tells their race. Just gotta read it.......

 

[GoIrish41]

Considering we are discussing black people who are killed by cops most of that chart doesn't matter to the topic. However, I am not agreeing with the post you quoted. Just pointing it out.

Only black lives matter. Lol

 

[IrishinSyria]

That angle is pathetic. I'm claiming the entire chart isn't black people and the topic we are discussing is. It tells their race. Just gotta read it.......

I mean, the point still stands even if you were to delete the 50% of the chart with no race listed and all the whites and latinos. You're still left with plenty of black people who were killed by cops.

If people are going to claim (not saying you're one of them) that the national news media is just looking for cases to distort when white cops kill black people, then they have to be able to explain why there are plenty of cases that involve white officers killing black people that don't turn into media circuses.

Certainly, the simplest explanation seems to be that the answer is that all of the cases that do turn into circuses have involved unarmed black people.

 

[Bishop2b5]

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So few??? Seriously? We've had one being covered virtually every week the past several months. We're having riots in most of the major cities across the country with hundreds of citizens and cops being injured, lives disrupted or turned upside down, as well as hundreds of businesses being burned or damaged to the point of no longer existing. And in more than one of those cases it turned out the cops were not the ones in the wrong.

Now do Blacks have no ability to wait and pass judgment until after the facts are actually in, have no ability to control themselves, simply don't care as long as they get to riot and burn and act out, or is the press driving most of this by fanning the flames and manipulating them by how they report the news? I'm voting on the latter, but if you think it's one of the other explanations, by all means say so and tell me the press isn't largely to blame.

 

[NDRock]

I never understand why people get mad at the media for "framing" the story. They are a business who are in the business of making money. They do what they do to sell the most copies, or get the best ratings. It's Capitalism and it works. Doesn't get more American than that.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I mean, the point still stands even if you were to delete the 50% of the chart with no race listed and all the whites and latinos. You're still left with plenty of black people who were killed by cops.

If people are going to claim (not saying you're one of them) that the national news media is just looking for cases to distort when white cops kill black people, then they have to be able to explain why there are plenty of cases that involve white officers killing black people that don't turn into media circuses.

Certainly, the simplest explanation seems to be that the answer is that all of the cases that do turn into circuses have involved unarmed black people.

I do agree with you. I just know then next rebuttal to your post would be that the chart included all race's and that it's not a valid argument.

 

[GoIrish41]

So few??? Seriously? We've had one being covered virtually every week the past several months. We're having riots in most of the major cities across the country with hundreds of citizens and cops being injured, lives disrupted or turned upside down, as well as hundreds of businesses being burned or damaged to the point of no longer existing. And in more than one of those cases it turned out the cops were not the ones in the wrong.

Now do Blacks have no ability to wait and pass judgment until after the facts are actually in, have no ability to control themselves, simply don't care as long as they get to riot and burn and act out, or is the press driving most of this by fanning the flames and manipulating them by how they report the news? I'm voting on the latter, but if you think it's one of the other explanations, by all means say so and tell me the press isn't largely to blame.

Maybe it is the cops commuting the crimes who are to blame. When a journalist kills someone and a riot breaks out we can discuss.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I never understand why people get mad at the media for "framing" the story. They are a business who are in the business of making money. They do what they do to sell the most copies, or get the best ratings. It's Capitalism and it works. Doesn't get more American than that.

Not entirely true. The press is given a lot of leeway and freedom to criticize the government, be a guardian of the public interest, and made almost untouchable in order to do those things. In return, that carries a great burden of responsibility to honor that trust and serve the public by reporting news honestly instead of manipulating it to further an agenda or sometimes their own self-interests. Not much different from an individual. We have freedom of speech and our government is supposed to bend over backwards not to infringe on that right, but we also have a responsibility to not use it to maliciously cause harm to others or the public by shouting "FIRE" in a theater, falsely accuse anyone, or slander someone.

With great power comes great responsibility. Much of our press has abdicated that responsibility and no longer serves the public interest with character, honesty, or anything else worthwhile.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Maybe it is the cops commuting the crimes who are to blame. When a journalist kills someone and a riot breaks out we can discuss.

Want to take a shot at the Michael Brown case and tell me how it was the cop's fault and not Brown's, or that the press didn't fan that case into a town getting destroyed?

 

[Grahambo]

I see a lot of blame in one direction but not a whole lot of suggestions as to how to fix the situation. Where are the protests against the politicians?

Its always somebody else's fault.

 

[Irishcop]

Want to take a shot at the Michael Brown case and tell me how it was the cop's fault and not Brown's, or that the press didn't fan that case into a town getting destroyed?

Clearly it's the cops fault because he showed up to work that day.

 

[NDRock]

Not entirely true. The press is given a lot of leeway and freedom to criticize the government, be a guardian of the public interest, and made almost untouchable in order to do those things. In return, that carries a great burden of responsibility to honor that trust and serve the public by reporting news honestly instead of manipulating it to further an agenda or sometimes their own self-interests. Not much different from an individual. We have freedom of speech and our government is supposed to bend over backwards not to infringe on that right, but we also have a responsibility to not use it to maliciously cause harm to others or the public by shouting "FIRE" in a theater, falsely accuse anyone, or slander someone.

With great power comes great responsibility. Much of our press has abdicated that responsibility and no longer serves the public interest with character, honesty, or anything else worthwhile.

Well the press has been serving its own interests since the beginning of the Republic. Creating sensational headlines is part of the business.

 

[GoIrish41]

Want to take a shot at the Michael Brown case and tell me how it was the cop's fault and not Brown's, or that the press didn't fan that case into a town getting destroyed?

The media may have gotten it wrong about Brown but as a result Justice found some deep racist stuff going on in that town ... Stuff that made their coverage easy to believe. Care to talk about the little boy in Cleveland getting gunned down or the guy getting choked to death in NYC? Did the media overplay those too? How about the guy being murdered in South Carolina? People defend cops who do stupid shit and blame it on the media. That sort of acceptance is a huge part of the problem IMO.

 

[Bishop2b5]

The media may have gotten it wrong about Brown but as a result Justice found some deep racist stuff going on in that town ... Stuff that made their coverage easy to believe. Care to talk about the little boy in Cleveland getting gunned down or the guy getting choked to death in NYC? Did the media overplay those too? How about the guy being murdered in South Carolina? People defend cops who do stupid shit and blame it on the media. That sort of acceptance is a huge part of the problem IMO.

I'm not defending bad cops. I don't want the media to defend bad cops. I don't want the media to immediately portray all shootings by cops as murder or some sort of racist death squad thing and portray the victims as innocent choir boys before getting the facts. I don't want them to portray innocent victims as thugs to cover up for bad cops. It causes distrust of the media, tension and anger between the races, innocent people to get their lives destroyed, and entire towns to get torn apart or burned to the ground. I want the media to act with some responsibility, journalistic integrity, honesty, and do their job to inform the public factually and truthfully without fanning the flames just to push an agenda or increase readership.

 

[DogDaysIrish]