Top 25 Final Coach's Ballots (link)

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How coaches voted for Notre Dame:

Phillip Fulmer ranked ND higher than any other coach (#7)

Steve Spurrier ranked ND lower than any other coach (#16). Larry Coker ranked ND the next lowest at #15. No other coach ranked us lower than 13.

Charlie ranked ND at #8. He was also one of the few coaches to keep Michigan ranked #2.

John L. Smith also ranked ND #8, as did Howard Schnellengberger (Florida Atlantic) and Mike Riley (Oregon State).
 
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Other Notables:

Howard Schellenberger (Florida Atlantic) voted LSU #15 and Oklahoma #18.

Joe Tiller (Purdue) voted Southern Cal #12.

Mike Leach (Texas Tech) voted Notre Dame #10 and Southern Cal #11. (I guess beating a team by 20 doesn't count for much anymore). He also voted Virginia Tech #7 and BYU #15.

Rocky Long (New Mexico) voted Wake Forest #8 and LSU #11.
 
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Here are some guys whose ballots shoudl be RECONSIDERED.

Larrry Blakeney of Troy had Texas UNRANKED.

Brady Hoke of Ball State had Arkansas UNRANKED.

Rocky Long had Cal and Tennessee UNRANKED.
 
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I wonder which coaches saw which teams play this year.

I'll bet they haven't seen many outside of their schedule.
 
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For the second year in a row, Spurrier had us lower than any other coach in the final poll.

At least this year he didn't vote for South Carolina in the top 25 as well.

2005 - 14, when our final ranking in the poll (before bowls) was 6. He also had South Carolina at 21 when they were 4th in the others receiving votes, ie. 29th.
Btw, if you want to look at last years to compare coach's voting patterns, just change the 2006 in the URL above to 2005.
 
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I noticed that Ty Willingham consistantly votes ND lower too. No bitterness there though huh. The only way he can get his revenge since he know he can't get it done on the field LOL.
 
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I noticed that too, and thought the same thing. Although at least his vote isn't an outlier, just skewed towards the bottom end of the majority of votes we get.

irish4life99 said:
I noticed that Ty Willingham consistantly votes ND lower too. No bitterness there though huh. The only way he can get his revenge since he know he can't get it done on the field LOL.
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Does anyone know how the Coaches poll works?

Does every D1 Coach Vote?
 
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hmoney said:
Does anyone know how the Coaches poll works?

Does every D1 Coach Vote?
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No. 63 do, typically. Tressel abstained because he was in the position where he could concievably choose who he played against instead of picking who he thought was better with nobody knowing the difference, hence making it unethical for him to vote. So now there's 62. Points get assigned from each ballot, 25 for a first place vote, 24 for a second, etc. The points get tallied, and the teams get ranked. I'm not sure, but I think that the coaches might rotate weekly. But I'm not sure.
 
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Yeah I was also wondering how they decided who voted each week
 
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Thats kindof Ironic that Tressel would choose an ethical route seems to against his M.O. just kidding I have a severe dislike for OSU as I would assume most here do
 
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The coaches are rotated annually, not week-to-week. I don't know how they decide which coaches get a vote each year. Charlie has had a vote the last two years, so I would assume that he gets rotated out next year. I'm not sure about that, though. Anyone else have a better grasp on how the process works?

As for Tressel, here is an interesting article about his decision: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?p=1415033
 
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Thanks....interesting article....

I think he should give up on the coaches poll if I remeber there was a controversy earlier in the year with him letting someone else cast the vote and they switched it around or something prior to the Texas game
 
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I actually think that Tressel's move was the ethical one. And I admire him for taking that stance. Regardless of who he thought was the better team, or who would give them the tougher game. Bottom line, his vote didn't matter in this situation, which is nice, and I think it avoided any controversy possible.
 
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Anyone think it's a coincidence that 3 of the coaches who had us ranked the lowest out of all the ballots were Spurrier, Ty and Tiller? I think not.
 
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spurrier deserves props for one thing on his ballot though: putting OU at 4. everyone knows that they should be 12-1 right now, but few coaches had the cojones to actually rank them accordingly (bob stoops was the other i believe). bobby ross' votes stood out to me as well. he had nd at 11, no big deal. but he was one of the few people (spurrier in this group as well) to rank Va tech ahead of ND. did we do something to bobby ross to make him mad? we took our foot of the accelerator pretty early in that game, i can't see why he'd be bitter.
 
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I think it is because they both have ties to the ACC....seems like conference coaches tend to vote conference foes higher than they would otherwise...maybe a issue of trying to make conference seem stronger or fact that they see these teams more often
 
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I guess that doesn't explain Spurrier ranking Vtech ahead of ND....I think he just has a hatred for ND he voted us the lowest last year as well.....my point is that typically conference coaches will vote other conference teams higher than they should for their own agendas
 
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jmg21 said:
The coaches are rotated annually, not week-to-week. I don't know how they decide which coaches get a vote each year. Charlie has had a vote the last two years, so I would assume that he gets rotated out next year. I'm not sure about that, though. Anyone else have a better grasp on how the process works?

As for Tressel, here is an interesting article about his decision: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?p=1415033
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Is that why Petey doesn't have a vote?
 
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FleaFlicker said:
I actually think that Tressel's move was the ethical one. And I admire him for taking that stance. Regardless of who he thought was the better team, or who would give them the tougher game. Bottom line, his vote didn't matter in this situation, which is nice, and I think it avoided any controversy possible.
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IF Tressel was casting his vote after the other 62 were already counted than that situation (him picking the opponent) would be valid. But as he doesn't know how the other 62 voted it's bogus.

He acted like a politician and sat on his hands.

If you can't vote ethically the last week you shouldn't vote any week. His votes throughout the season helped shape the race.

Was it really a question of ethics, was it that his ballot would be made public, or was the SID assistant that usually filled out his ballot out of town last weekend?
 
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Zook's going to get a lot of heat for not voting Michigan #2. Every other Big Ten coach voted Michigan #2, and every SEC coach voted Florida #2. Pretty bad that Zook went against his conference.
 
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... and to "help" the team that ran him out of town? Why in the hell would he do that?
 
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FleaFlicker said:
I actually think that Tressel's move was the ethical one. And I admire him for taking that stance. Regardless of who he thought was the better team, or who would give them the tougher game. Bottom line, his vote didn't matter in this situation, which is nice, and I think it avoided any controversy possible.
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I agree, it was the smart move for him not to vote. He was in a lose lose situation not matter how he voted. I would have done the same thing.
 
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QueensNY said:
Zook's going to get a lot of heat for not voting Michigan #2. Every other Big Ten coach voted Michigan #2, and every SEC coach voted Florida #2. Pretty bad that Zook went against his conference.
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One thing can be said about Zook and that is the fact he's loyal.
 
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