'13 CA DE Kylie Fitts (UCLA Verbal)

[BGIF]

WTF does Amir have to do with Fitts? My point is that the school makes it near impossible for a kid to transfer in. Can you name the last undergrad to transfer in before Amir? You can't say that because the system has allowed for ONE transfer in over the past X years that it's not flawed or at least part of what puts this program behind the 8-ball.

Riggs G.S.
Wulfeck, GS, the punter from Wake Forest
Carlisle from USC
Bemenderfer from Northwestern in '06 (with a high 3.+ GPA). He sat out a year. Went to Med school after ND.
Prestwood, FSU, (was required to start over academically and was an Academic Casualty)
Lynch, FSU (transferred out in a hissy fit)
Burger from Dayton in '09
Salvi from Butler in '09. Played a full season at Butler. Not all Butler credits were transferable.

Prior to them, I call only recall transferring in were Dan Ruettiger in '74 and Skip Holtz in '85. They were both from Holy Cross College, South Bend. Ruettiger like Rockne and Gipp was several years out of HS before starting a college education. Skip was rejected by ND out of HS for an average GPA and lack of foreign language.

The only other transfer player I recall in the past 40 years was Larry Moriarity who entered ND in 1980. He was an excellent HS student and football player who became ill in HS (mono, I think). He missed a year or more with illness. Then went to Santa Barbara JUCO where he excelled in the classroom and on the field. He played 3 years at ND ( pre NCAA 5 years to play 4).

Their were transfers in the 20's through 40's but believe that dried up with ND's new President in the early 50's, some guy named Hesburgh who vaulted ND from a blue collar college into a premier university. Malloy expanded on Hesburgh's base. Many of the ND Legends would not have gotten into today's ND and that's not limited to transfers.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

WTF does Amir have to do with Fitts? My point is that the school makes it near impossible for a kid to transfer in. Can you name the last undergrad to transfer in before Amir? You can't say that because the system has allowed for ONE transfer in over the past X years that it's not flawed or at least part of what puts this program behind the 8-ball.

Off the top of my head Bobby Burger.

I get what you saying, but for some reason I'm not upset about this.


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[Rack Em]

Riggs G.S.
Wulfeck, GS, the punter from Wake Forest
Carlisle from USC
A jr OL whose name I can't recall from Northwestern (with a high 3.+ GPA). He sat out a year.
Prestwood, FSU, (was required to start over academically and was an Academic Casualty)
Lynch, FSU (transferred out in a hissy fit)

Thomas Bemederfer

 

[Bogtrotter07]

It is really becoming popular to have to blame someone for things not working out the way some may want. Can we stop?

It isn't healthy. It contributes to building levels of stress and frustration.

My feeling is that the coaches had their first look at Fitts and Isaac. And they were at best ambivalent. Someone inferred that the staff, not admission passed on Kyle, for reasons kept private. But we do know that he had a miserable year at UCLA last year. And we don't know if he would have been a contributor at ND.

Bottom line : With the new young kids at ND, there isn't much need for someone we recruited two or three years ago, and didn't come then.

 

[BGIF]

Can't fault him for thinking UCLA was the best fit for him. Also can't fault him for realizing it's not a good fit now (perhaps sold a bill of goods?). However, we can blame ND for making it fucking near impossible for a kid ONE YEAR into an otherwise highly regarded academic institution to transfer in. It's part of why football program will be forever mediocre.
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Perhaps you have a relative that graduated from UCLA but "highly regarded", compared to Auburn? UCLA in proud that they graduate 81% of their students in 6 years, only 69% graduate in 4 years. ND graduates 95% of their students in 4 years.

UCLA's Student Body has an Average SAT score of around 1160. A few year's ago, ND's Average SAT was listed around 1350 almost 200 points higher. 90% on ND students are the Top 5% of their HS Class.

UCLA has around 25,000 students about 3 times the number at ND. They offer a lot more majors and have a lot less academic competition in the classroom. Like OSU and Michigan, they have a lot of programs and courses to "hide" athletes.

Fitts was an Early Entrance at UCLA to play Spring Ball. Do you really think he took an ND course load? He was there for 3 semesters. Had he met the equivalent course work of a 2 semester course load for an ND freshman? Did his individual courses meet the CONTENT of ND courses? Not just the title description but the actual meat of the course. Did he get the requisite grade of B in those courses to transfer his grades? Did he take ANY math or science class? Did he take a bona fide college level English class? Or did he take a High Remedial English Class which many college students do take as freshman at state colleges?

I don't know, do you?

Perhaps he is the exceptional student like Myron Rolle was at FSU but I've never read that. Rolle had a goal to become a doctor coming out of HS. Fitts was an Undeclared Major at UCLA, the most common program for athlete across the country because they can put off the tough courses for the first couple of years which is S. O. P. at UM, Auburn, and others. Katenmoyer did it for 4 years at OSU. I recall a graphic during the 2012 Season NC Game where the announcers contrasted the majors at UA and ND. UA players also had a fondness for Undeclared Major.

If Fitts wanted a business degree from ND, it wasn't going to happen. Mendoza doesn't take Transfers.

 

[BGIF]

Thomas Bemederfer

Thanks, I couldn't recall the name.

 

[BGIF]

Thomas Bemederfer

Bemenderfer

Thomas Bemenderfer Bio - UND.COM - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site

 

[Rack Em]

Bemenderfer

Thomas Bemenderfer Bio - UND.COM - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site

That's right. I forgot the "n".

 

[Goldedommer44]

Could Fitts transfer in if he would be willing to start over academicly?

 

[BGIF]

Could Fitts transfer in if he would be willing to start over academicly?

Prestwood did.

Salvi transferred from Butler after playing a full season there.

Notre Dame former walk-on Chris Salvi earns football scholarship

- While Salvi was listed as a senior on last year’s roster he does not need to apply for fifth-year status. Some of his credits from his year at Butler did not transfer and he will finish his undergraduate degree in December 2012.

First you have to meet ND's requirements for transfer then it depends on which credits meet ND's requirements for transfer.