Jaime Dixon has made four sweet sixteens and an elite eight, all in the last ten years. Huggins made a FINAL FOUR within the last five years. Why are you comparing Brey with them?
A prior poster referenced Pitt. My Huggins comments pertained only to his Cincy tenure in that fans here would want to run him off for his lack of postseason success.
Also, Pitt pays Dixon ~$1.6M per season. Brey gets under $600k from ND and about $500k from endorsements. Other posters have referenced pay, and we won't win with anyone else without pumping more money into a program that probably loses money for the university.
If those are your expectations then why do you even care who the head coach is? Digger Phelps is 20x the coach Mike Brey is. You take away Digger's first and last season with ND and he beats Brey away in win percentage. Please don't compare the two as it's an insult to Digger Phelps.
I care because I don't want a bunch of grass-is-greener fans running off a great coach and turning the program into a pile of crap. I remember BC fans lamenting Skinner, which led to the hiring of Donahue. Donahue has BC in the bottom of the ACC while Skinner regularly took BC to the tourney. I could give you more examples if you wish.
Just because Notre Dame isn't a basketball school doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do better. We aren't a hockey, soccer, or lacrosse school either but we have hired some of the absolute best coaches in the country to coach those teams. And look at the success they have all had.
Compared to other schools, we spend a decent amount on those programs. That's why they succeed.
And how many schools truly are hockey, soccer, or lacrosse schools? Not many. It's pretty easy to become competitive in that sort of environment, especially when there's a lack of spending escalation in these non-money programs. I.e., you're comparing apples to oranges with this comparison.
You really want to compare Marshall with Enfield? Enfield had a complete flash in the pan team that caught absolute fire. Marshall has put together 3 great seasons in a row and is 21-0 this year. He would kill it at ND.
I agree Marshall would succeed here, but that's not a sure thing. He's doing well at a mid-major. That doesn't guarantee success at as a HC in a major conference. Just look at his predecessor Mark Turgeon. He couldn't get TA&M out of the second round and can't get Maryland into the tourney. Most would claim it's far easier to succeed at Maryland too.
Mark Fox produced winners every year at Nevada, yet only made one tourney at Georgia in four years and likely won't make the tourney this year either.
Brian Gregory isn't exactly a flash in the pan. He also worked as an assistant for Izzo. BUT he's struggling at GT, which has better resources and a location to succeed in bball than ND.
Iowa's McCaffery had three solid years of success at Siena, and year 4 at Iowa is the first year of any true success.
You answered your own question. It's not a lateral move if Cincinnati is stuck in whatever conference they are in now while ND is in the ACC.
I meant that in respect to coaches. I don't view Cronin as an upgrade, which means we'd waste money on hiring him at a higher rate.
Xavier coaches have historically gone to basketball schools that were willing to pay them top dollar. Miller to Zona. Matta to OSU. Prosser to Wake. Perhaps he'd come here, but we'd probably need to offer far more financial support. Even then, I'd expect him to take a similar offer from a basketball school.
Brey won coach of the year because a bunch of idiot coaches didn't think we had any talent and voted us to finish at the middle or bottom of the league. In reality, our talent was closer to the level where we finished. Brey is a great developer of talent, I'll give him that. But that leads to us underachieving based on our developed talent.
He has a history of winning CoY. He won it in 1998 for the America East Conf. He won CoY 3 times for the BE. And Nat'l COY in 2011 from a bunch of different publications. One publication named him nat'l CoY in 2012 too.
I didn't know he was a Mormon but that doesn't mean he wouldn't leave.
Wishful thinking.
Of course he's not doing well. It's f'ing South Alabama and it's his first season with the kids the previous coach brought in. He would be an interesting hire because of his strong Indiana base. We need to start recruiting our own state better.
You're a bit inconsistent. Enfield is a flash in the pan his first year, yet Graves gets a pass because it's South Alabama. They managed to make the the post season last year.
Maybe. But honestly don't see how he could do any worse than Brey with better access to talent. Good players don't want to go to Creighton but they might want to go to Notre Dame.
Creighton manages to almost always have an NBA player on its team. Creighton currently has 2 players in the NBA: Korver and Tolliver. So it's not like talent doesn't want to go there.
Bay comparison, ND has four players in the NBA: Carroll, Murphy, Hansbrough, and Zeller.
Notre Dame isn't painful to watch??
Losses are always painful. And sure, I'd like to watch us play an up-tempo style, but that requires a lot more talent. I'd rather slow down games and win than play a different style and lose.
