Final AP Poll

[irishog77]

To be fair about the sec, I'm not sure they schedule more games against I-AA teams or I-A cellar-dwellars than MANY teams across the country.

Their unwillingness to leave the south is what bothers me the most.

 

[wizards8507]

To be fair about the sec, I'm not sure they schedule more games against I-AA teams or I-A cellar-dwellars than MANY teams across the country.

Their unwillingness to leave the south is what bothers me the most.

Why do I-AA games even count for FBS records? It would be like the Red Sox boosting their standings in the American Leage East by playing the South Worcester Baptist softball team. If you want to schedule a I-AA opponent as a "warmup" to start the year, fine. But it shouldn't count in your overall win-loss record.

 

[irishog77]

Why do I-AA games even count for FBS records? It would be like the Red Sox boosting their standings in the American Leage East by playing the South Worcester Baptist softball team. If you want to schedule a I-AA opponent as a "warmup" to start the year, fine. But it shouldn't count in your overall win-loss record.

Totally agree-- they should not count.

When the ncaa moved the schedule to 12 games, instead of 11, they allowed what was a once-every-four-year exception (I believe), to be an every year exception. So in other words, the 12 game schedule was completely a $$$ decision.

The 12 game season also meant teams didn't have to have a winning record to qualify for a bowl game...just to be .500, 6-6.

I think in the 11 game season, a team could actually schedule a I-AA school every year, if they desired, but that for record purposes, only 1 out of 4 would count in their official record. So say ND had Alcorn St. scheduled for 4 years in the 90's, and they finished 11-0 each of those seasons, then according to the ncaa, officially, their record in that stretch would actually have been 11-0, 10-0, 10-0, 10-0.

I wish the ncaa would go back to that, but alas, the almighty dollar matters most.

 

[wizards8507]

Totally agree-- they should not count.

When the ncaa moved the schedule to 12 games, instead of 11, they allowed what was a once-every-four-year exception (I believe), to be an every year exception. So in other words, the 12 game schedule was completely a $$$ decision.

The 12 game season also meant teams didn't have to have a winning record to qualify for a bowl game...just to be .500, 6-6.

I think in the 11 game season, a team could actually schedule a I-AA school every year, if they desired, but that for record purposes, only 1 out of 4 would count in their official record. So say ND had Alcorn St. scheduled for 4 years in the 90's, and they finished 11-0 each of those seasons, then according to the ncaa, officially, their record in that stretch would actually have been 11-0, 10-0, 10-0, 10-0.

I wish the ncaa would go back to that, but alas, the almighty dollar matters most.

I dont get how the economics of the thing works if the alternative would be AQ teams scheduling non-AQ FBS programs to fill that spot on the schedule... Wouldn't LSU against the ULL Ragin' Cajuns be a bigger draw than LSU against the Nicholls State Colonels?

Rather than the NCAA saying you CAN schedule 12 games, they should say you MUST schedule 12 games.

 

[irishog77]

I dont get how the economics of the thing works if the alternative would be AQ teams scheduling non-AQ FBS programs to fill that spot on the schedule... Wouldn't LSU against the ULL Ragin' Cajuns be a bigger draw than LSU against the Nicholls State Colonels?

Rather than the NCAA saying you CAN schedule 12 games, they should say you MUST schedule 12 games.

I think the only problem with something like that is then you're actually getting into who teams can specifically schedule, perhaps.

I know some people were up in arms in Arkansas because the Razorbacks would schedule Shit Team U at least twice a year. Since those games are ALWAYS at home, people wanted them to start scheduling Arkansas State in a effort to keep ALL of the money in-state. And to an extent, those people have a point. The only problem for Arkansas, is they had nothing to gain. What is arkansas state got up for their 1 game of the season...and beat arkansas? It would be a black eye, within the state, for the razorbacks to lose that game, more so than losing to Directional Valley State from somewhere else.. And what happens if they win? Pfft-- they were supposed to anyway.

And at a certain point, shitty I-A teams won't play good teams. I mean, they want to win some games too. They have to play some winnable games themselves.

The 12th game essentially added another home game for big teams, another win, and more bowl eligible teams to play in what was once the ever-expanding bowl season.

But again, I agree with you.

 

[philipm31]

The ACC.

Offense
QB – Jameis Winston, Florida State
RB – Andre Williams, Boston College
RB – Devonta Freeman, Florida State
WR – Sammy Watkins, Clemson
WR - Jamison Crowder, Duke
WR – Rashad Greene, Florida State
TE - Troy Niklas - Notre Dame
TE - Eric Ebron - North Carolina
Tckl- Zack Martin - Notre Dame
Tkl- James Hurst, North Carolina
G- Tre’ Jackson, Florida State
G-Shaq Mason, Georgia Tech
C- Bryan Stork, Florida State

Defense
DE - Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame
DE - Kareem Martin, North Carolina
DT - Louis Nix, Notre Dame
DT – Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
LB - Kelby Brown, Duke
LB – Denzel Perryman, Miami
LB – Kevin Pierre-Louis, Boston College
CB – Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State
CB – Kavarae Russell, Notre Dame
S – Anthony Harris, Virginia
S – Jeremy Cash, Duke

ND is not part of the ACC in football, so you cannot include them, wooly. You need to rethink that list and use actual ACC talent.

First teamers from the ACC do not measure up to the SEC, from top to bottom. No conference does, at the moment.

 

[Cackalacky]

To be fair about the sec, I'm not sure they schedule more games against I-AA teams or I-A cellar-dwellars than MANY teams across the country.

Their unwillingness to leave the south is what bothers me the most.

True. I would love to see the "big boys" go on the road somewhere else.