NFL wants more African American offensive coordinators

[phork]

Serbs & ethnic cleansing anyone?

 

[GowerND11]

Jews, eradication of almost an entire two continents of people (Native Americans), Serbs, Armenian genocide, Cambodian genocide, etc etc. Now obviously these examples aren't all related to the USA, but it has happened all over the world. Don't forget Rwanda as well.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

I guess I was all wrong.

I just hope that if that nightmare scenario where whites are treated like 2nd class citizens or worse comes along.. I don't sit around talking about how it's natural or life isn't fair or how other groups had it worse.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

From Jay Leno:

There's been a lot of criticism over the NFL for not hiring enough minority coaches. And, of course, the NFL is trying to spin it. They said, "What are you talking about? We got two brothers coaching the Super Bowl."

 

[Bluto]

How about the Jews? Heard they had it pretty rough......


And the Irish have not only dealt with it in Europe, but when they came over here.

As far as I know Jews were never disenfranchised in this country. Same goes for the Irish. Both groups were allowed to participate fully in the social and political processes where as African Americans were not. In my opinion the case of African Americans and Native Americans are unique in the United Sates in that both groups were systematically disenfranchised and or exterminated as a matter of public policy.

 

[BroMontana]

I heard this illustrated on TV or radio recently and just have to reiterate it. Historically "thinking man's" positions were not given to black men in the NFL. They were perceived to be less than capable of having the mental capacity to be leaders and make decisions. That thought process is a rehash of a manufactured stereotype that had been systematically used hinder the black athlete from being more than someone who can catch or run fast. Many OC's have a history of being QB's. If you have a group of ppl who have such inexperience on the offensive end, in the strategic capacity, then you will not have ppl who have been in these roles long enough to have the experience to populate those positions. That thought does two things, it gives you a sort of a reason why you have fewer qualified black offensive coaches, but you also get the reason why the owners are not taking the chances on the black coaches that actually are qualified. They are perpetuating a stereotype that should be allowed to die, but cannot...as long as they continue to reinforce it. What will eventually NEED to happen is a wave of black offensive gurus. Kind of like this wave of dual threat NFL QB's, it's going to have to be undeniable and desirable. There was a complaint about black HC's having primarily black coaching staffs...that's where the opportunity is going to come from because nobody else has a vested interest in the cultivation of black coaches in football.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

As far as I know Jews were never disenfranchised in this country. Same goes for the Irish. Both groups were allowed to participate fully in the social and political processes where as African Americans were not. In my opinion the case of African Americans and Native Americans are unique in the United Sates in that both groups were systematically disenfranchised and or exterminated as a matter of public policy.

Not sure about the Jews, but when the heavy wave of Irish immigrants came to this country in the lat 1800's and early 1900s, they were regarded and treated as second class citizens.

Took a course on American Immigration in undergrad, and the Irish had it bad. Were often called the N word, women were thought of as dirty and useless, and many families (like other immigrant populations) lived in ghettos.

This sentiment is well documented in "Gangs of New York", "Far and Away", and the book "How the other half lives" by Jacob Riis.

 

[Cackalacky]

I've been told the bad stories of things that happened during the 1940s-1960s from my grandparents. I've seen the open bigotry to other races, creeds, and sexual orientations from my parents and friends and my own community with my own eyes. I have seen, heard and read the veiled bigotry from our politicians and leaders both nationally and locally, and also those who hide behind the victim card. I have watched the marches and listened to the speeches of the civil rights movement and watched with horror our police force resist with club and hose those wanting the same rights as others.

I have seen first hand victims of Katrina denied access to their property because the property (now demolished from the storm) was suddenly worth more money and those who owned it could not afford the taxes or to rebuild because insurance would not cover flood damage versus wind damage. Guess what was built there instead? Newer homes for people with more money. Conversely, the poorer neighborhoods in New Orleans have better city wide infrastructure such as roads and sidewalks.

I still see, hear, read and watch these things, but it is more subversive today. In the past it was more open. Today it is under the surface bubbling away.

I know with all my heart there is nothing better about me than anyone else. Many claim the same but do not truly believe. Others say nothing and will give their last penny to someone else. I believe people of whatever description should have the same access to what I have. Most don't and need help, some won't try and will just take.

I believe the content of your character requires no words, only action, however to ignore the past is to revise the present. DO we need some legislation to help people succeed... I think yes, particularly those establishing laws and rights to groups previously excluded. I have noticed through these experiences those that have do not want to give to those who don't have. Or upset the current social contract.

I don't know where I am going with this.... I just re-read some of the posts. Just love your ****ing neighbor and pay it forward.
Have a great weekend.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Not sure about the Jews, but when the heavy wave of Irish immigrants came to this country in the lat 1800's and early 1900s, they were regarded and treated as second class citizens.

Took a course on American Immigration in undergrad, and the Irish had it bad. Were often called the N word, women were thought of as dirty and useless, and many families (like other immigrant populations) lived in ghettos.

This sentiment is well documented in "Gangs of New York", "Far and Away", and the book "How the other half lives" by Jacob Riis.

Yes, the Irish had it pretty bad during the 1800's and early 1900's in a lot of cases. Businesses often had signs saying not "No Irish" or "Irish need not apply." An interesting take: a black co-worker told me once that he believed black slaves had it better than the typical Irish dirt farmer in the 1800's. His argument was that while the slave didn't have the freedom to move, get an education, change careers, greatly improve his lot, or make many of the decisions in his life, he had enormous value to his owner and never went without food, clothing, medical care, or housing. The Irish dirt farmer theoretically had all those things, but in practice had little opportunity to exercise them, had to work just as hard with no more reward in most cases, and there was nobody to make sure that if he fell on hard times that he wouldn't starve, go homeless, or die from lack of medical care. Thought provoking and probably accurate in many ways.

 

[Redbar]

Yes, the Irish had it pretty bad during the 1800's and early 1900's in a lot of cases. Businesses often had signs saying not "No Irish" or "Irish need not apply." An interesting take: a black co-worker told me once that he believed black slaves had it better than the typical Irish dirt farmer in the 1800's. His argument was that while the slave didn't have the freedom to move, get an education, change careers, greatly improve his lot, or make many of the decisions in his life, he had enormous value to his owner and never went without food, clothing, medical care, or housing. The Irish dirt farmer theoretically had all those things, but in practice had little opportunity to exercise them, had to work just as hard with no more reward in most cases, and there was nobody to make sure that if he fell on hard times that he wouldn't starve, go homeless, or die from lack of medical care. Thought provoking and probably accurate in many ways.

and ABSURD.
Yeah, the Irish would have been better off enslaved, treated as chattel, seen as something less than human, with a complete assault on their family units and ability to make any decisions about their life that we take for granted today. Your co-worker didn't know didley and anybody that would like to glamorize the good old days on the plantation really needs to take a closer look at what actually happened and the legacy of it that, continues to plague this country today. There is a reason there are no threads in 2012 talking about corporations or entities trying to increase their management, coaching, officer, executive, country club, memberships with more Irish.