Juniors Offered

[jiggafini19]

Benn, Arrelious WR Washington, DC
Clausen, Jimmy QB Westlake Village, CA
Everson, Cedric ATH Detroit, MI
Johnson, Ronald CB Muskegon, MI
Martin, Ben DE Cincinnati, OH
Oglesby, Josh OT St. Francis, WI
Tyler, Marc RB Westlake Village, CA

 

[IRISHMAN]

according to scouts ND has offered RB Chris Rainey out of florida.

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

do they have star ratings up for these recruits yet? i'm afficted by a disease called laziness and will therefore rely on the fabulous researchers of this fine forum to do it for me.

but seriously....star ratings?

 

[LuckoftheIrish86]

Ben Martin is a beast.

 

[nayers]

do they have star ratings up for these recruits yet? i'm afficted by a disease called laziness and will therefore rely on the fabulous researchers of this fine forum to do it for me.
but seriously....star ratings?

no...stars don't come out for a while

 

[Champion10]

I bet we can expect some more offers given out on junior day. I hope we offer Dailey, Thompson and Gallipo soon.

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

but i'm lost without star rankings...my whole life revolves around them. i can't work any more. i'm going to need two weeks off to collect myself. talk to you guys then...

 

[Irishkid23]

Benn, Arrelious WR Washington, DC
Clausen, Jimmy QB Westlake Village, CA
Everson, Cedric ATH Detroit, MI
Johnson, Ronald CB Muskegon, MI
Martin, Ben DE Cincinnati, OH
Oglesby, Josh OT St. Francis, WI
Tyler, Marc RB Westlake Village, CA

I hope CW is working on DT's. I am sure he is, but I don't see any so far. But, it's early. Anyone know if ND has any DT's in mind???

 

[Champion10]

Myles Wade, Joe Barksdale and Po'u Palelei. I also hope they go after John Brown.

 

[Irishkid23]

Myles Wade, Joe Barksdale and Po'u Palelei. I also hope they go after John Brown.

Thanks Champ

 

[jiggafini19]

I hope CW is working on DT's. I am sure he is, but I don't see any so far. But, it's early. Anyone know if ND has any DT's in mind???

These guys are on the radar. Interest could be from ND, player, or both.

Joseph Barksdale - 6-4/315/4.9 Detroit, MI
Gary McClellan - 6-5/290/- Arkadelphia, AR
Po'u Palelei - 6-3/320/5.7 Las Vegas, NV
Stephen Thomas - 6-2/275/4.95 Mesquite, TX
Myles Wade - 6-2/290/5.1 Portland, OR
Leman Williams - 6-5/315/5.2 Norfolk, VA
Stefan Wisniewski - 6-3/265/- Pittsburgh, PA

 

[IRISHMAN]

also according to scouts WR wyane bonner out of georgia has an offer too. has anyone else heard more about this?

 

[jiggafini19]

Scout has offers for Chris Rainey, RB out of Florida and Mr. Bonner from GA. Rivals does not.

Rainey appears to favor Florida and Florida State. Bonner favors UGA, GaTech as well as Florida and Florida State.

With 17 offensive recruits this year, I have begun to shun offensive juniors. I'm looking forward to a steady diet of defense verbals for the next 12 months.

 

[BGIF]

... With 17 offensive recruits this year, I have begun to shun offensive juniors. I'm looking forward to a steady diet of defense verbals for the next 12 months.

Are you sure all 17 offensive recruits are going to play offense? In the other Junior thread we discussed versatility and that Prince, Gallup, and West could play CB. Mullen, Yeatman, and Olson could also be DLs. This class isn't as skewed as their high school position listings would indicate.

 

[jiggafini19]

Are you sure all 17 offensive recruits are going to play offense? In the other Junior thread we discussed versatility and that Prince, Gallup, and West could play CB. Mullen, Yeatman, and Olson could also be DLs. This class isn't as skewed as their high school position listings would indicate.

Gallup and Prince stay on O.

The rest could all be converted, but how long will it take them to learn the techniques and skills on defense? West and Mullen appear to be the best D candidates.

 

[scooper]

Gallup and Prince stay on O.
The rest could all be converted, but how long will it take them to learn the techniques and skills on defense? West and Mullen appear to be the best D candidates.

How long could it take them? Not long at all. Many of them played both ways in high school. For example, Mullen actually played much more defense the last two years than tight end.

 

[bigdon]

Gallup and Prince stay on O.
The rest could all be converted, but how long will it take them to learn the techniques and skills on defense? West and Mullen appear to be the best D candidates.

ND Nation has always said that West was recruited as a DB, I know that we considered him a WR but I am not sure that is correct although he probably could go either way.

Mullen probably could go defensive but if we remember his interview when he committed, he said he concentrated on Fasano and could picture himself catching passes like him. I only mention this because it is another hurdle in trying to place these guys. If Mullen thinks he is offense it is something else to overcome in making that change. Defense is a state of mind as much as athletecism.

 

[scooper]

ND Nation has always said that West was recruited as a DB, I know that we considered him a WR but I am not sure that is correct although he probably could go either way.
Mullen probably could go defensive but if we remember his interview when he committed, he said he concentrated on Fasano and could picture himself catching passes like him. I only mention this because it is another hurdle in trying to place these guys. If Mullen thinks he is offense it is something else to overcome in making that change. Defense is a state of mind as much as athletecism.

He said that when he committed. In more recent interviews he has said he is willing to do whatever the team needs him to do, which makes me think he's been approached about playing defense.

The kid has backed up his willingness by switching to offensive tackle for his high school team.

 

[jiggafini19]

Defense is a state of mind as much as athletecism.

This is 100% absolute FACT.

You really have to have the neanderthal football gene to play D.

I read an SI article earlier this year about Dwight Freeney of the Colts. He hates quarterbacks....ALL quarterbacks. He actually said he wished he could hit Peyton Manning in practice. THAT is the neanderthal gene.

I think Zbikowski is a little off. Great HS QB, but you can tell defense lives in him.

We'll see what happens. I hope they can get McCoy so all of this isn't even an issue.

 

[irishwavend]

Yeah...you can see it so much that he gets caught out of position on passes quite a bit...no offense to zibby.-

 

[Aerosmith777]

Yeah...you can see it so much that he gets caught out of position on passes quite a bit...no offense to zibby.-

I think that's in large part b/c they misuse him. They play him like a Free Safety, but Zibikowski is a Strong Safety by heart if I've ever seen one. He just wants to hit somebody.

 

[Irishkid23]

I think that's in large part b/c they misuse him. They play him like a Free Safety, but Zibikowski is a Strong Safety by heart if I've ever seen one. He just wants to hit somebody.

I still think he should be a strongside linebacker. He's fast and tough as nails and will hit the ballcarrier extremely hard.

 

[scooper]

I know Zibby can hit, but his frame is not that of a linebacker. He doesn't have another 20-30 pounds in him. His best bet, in my opinion is SS and better play recognition. That comes with coaching and experience.

 

[jiggafini19]

Updated as of 01/25/06

Pro-style quarterback
Jimmy Clausen 6-3/200

All-purpose back
Kelvin Grady 5-10/156/4.4 East Grand Rapids, MI *(Holds Basketball Offer)
Chris Rainey 5-8/160/4.42 Lakeland, FL

Running back
Marc Tyler6-0/215/4.5 Westlake Village, CA

Wide Receiver
Arrelious Benn 6-1/208/4.45 Washington, D.C.
Wayne Bonner 6-3/200/4.5 Milledgeville, GA

Tight end
D'Angelo McCray 6-5/265/4.64 Jacksonville, FL *(DE with 12 sacks)
Mike Ragone 6-5/230/4.4 Cherry Hill, NJ

Offensive tackle
Josh Oglesby 6-7/315/- Milwaukee, WI
Sione Tau 6-6/315/- Honolulu, HI

Offensive guard
Miles Stroter 6-4/309/5.1 Chicago, IL

Strongside defensive end
Ben Martin 6-5/220/4.5 Cincinnati, OH
Justin Trattou 6-4/230/4.8 Ramsey, NJ

Cornerback
Gary Gray 5-11/170/4.49 Columbia, SC
Ronald Johnson 6-0/177/4.5 Muskegon, MI

Athlete
Mark Barnes 6-3/190/4.45 Columbia, SC
Cedric Everson 5-11/154/4.4 Detroit, MI

 

[Irish Envy]

Lookin' good... is Weis not the offensive line guru or what? He is signing and going after some real monsters.

 

[jiggafini19]

Oglesby and Sam Young possibly being bookend tackles some day makes my defensive minded brain scramble like an egg.

Those are just two nasty dudes.

 

[scooper]

I like to see two DE's and two TE/DE options, for a total of 4 early potential DE offers.

With the two guys signed this year, I don't think DE is a "numbers" need, but the pass rush is bad and two good ones who can get after the passer need to be added to Wade and Ryan.

It was also be nice to see a "utility" DE who could grow into an athletic DT.

Speaking of DT, I hope some offers start popping up there soon. Landing two DE's may be enough, but I think they need a minimum of 3 DT's. That's a minimum.

 

[jiggafini19]

Way to go Scoop. You've touched on Jigga's theme for the day.

3 AT LEAST. Probably four. Barksdale and Wade are a start. I think anyone under 285 is a project. They need impact players with gerth and speed.