NFL wants more African American offensive coordinators

[50milesSE ND]

I don't want this taken wrong, but I don't care about political correctness either. This topic was brought up during pregame of Baltimore Ravens/ New England game. Does it bother anyone that it has to be about race? I don't see anyone getting mad that 70% of players in NFL are African American. So why does it matter what percent of coaches are Caucasian? This is just really annoying to me. Howie Long was once asked why players of different races get along so well in the NFL. His response was that you know the guy beside you and across the line from you were the best at that position..... What do you guys think?

 

[johnnykillz]

I don't want this taken wrong, but I don't care about political correctness either. This topic was brought up during pregame of Baltimore Ravens/ New England game. Does it bother anyone that it has to be about race? I don't see anyone getting mad that 70% of players in NFL are African American. So why does it matter what percent of coaches are Caucasian? This is just really annoying to me. Howie Long was once asked why players of different races get along so well in the NFL. His response was that you know the guy beside you and across the line from you were the best at that position..... What do you guys think?

I wish there were more Kiwis and Australians in football too.

Can we make that happen?

A few Aussie aborigines would be great.

Quick and shifty fellas.

yes it's fvckin dumb!

 

[Irish8248]

never understood this logic. Maybe its because im 27 and went to a huge HS and full of different minorities. But to me, an owner and a GM, one has their money on the line and the other his job, would hire the best possible person to secure their desired results. Maybe there are some out there who tend to be racist, but im willing to bet its a drop in the bucket. Just because youre black, white, asian, indian, etc, doesnt give you a predisposition of success as a coach... I just find this very annoying

 

[JadeBrecks]

Someone making a statement like this doesn't bother me as much as the reaction you would get if you flipped the statement. How many groups would flip out if you said football needed more caucasians.

 

[chicago51]

Don't have an issue with this. It is just interviewing not forced hiring. Its okay to give minorities an opportunity to interview. Ultimately whatever your race you have to perform in the interview and ultimately in your on field results nobody is going to be handed anything.

 

[BobD]

I don't see them looking for mobile white QBs, Asian linemen or a black Field Goal kickers, so they should probably accept that it's 2013 and we've moved on to just hiring the best candidate for the job.

 

[mgriff]

I don't give a **** what they want. You don't get an interview for the color of your skin either. That **** doesn't fly. If that's the case, I want an interview for point guard of the Miami Heat.

 

[ACamp1900]

I think we are pretty close to this being a memory, but not quite fully there yet... I also agree Jade though, you couldn't flip this in any way... You can't fight double standards and discrimination with double standards and discrimination and expect to accomplish much...

Overall I don't have too much issue with where this is at though... And again I don't think it will be needed much longer.

On a somewhat related note, how the hell are teams not falling over Lovie Smith??

 

[50milesSE ND]

I guess my issue is why is this an issue? Equal rights for all right? Why does race continue to be played. Our President Is African American. Reverse racism is not an answer to social issues either.

 

[johnnykillz]

Don't have an issue with this. It is just interviewing not forced hiring. Its okay to give minorities an opportunity to interview. Ultimately whatever your race you have to perform in the interview and ultimately in your on field results nobody is going to be handed anything.

Why would you interview someone with less qualifications and experience than others just because of the color of their skin?

I'm sensing you and I have many fundamental differences.

 

[chicago51]

I don't see them looking for mobile white QBs, Asian linemen or a black Field Goal kickers, so they should probably accept that it's 2013 and we've moved on to just hiring the best candidate for the job.

Exactly it is really about hiring the best guy. If Tony Dungy ever came back he would get a job right away. I personally would have just left the runey rule as is. Although I'm not outraged over this proposal either.

 

[We_Are_ND]

I agree that there doesn't NEED to be more minority coaches. Owners will hire the best possible man, but making sure that these minorities at least now are given the chance to be interviewed is a good thing, bc now maybe they will be the best possible man but it would've never been known if they weren't even given a chance to interview. I think it works out for everyone.

 

[BobD]

I think we are pretty close to this being a memory, but not quite fully there yet... I also agree Jade though, you couldn't flip this in any way... You can't fight double standards and discrimination with double standards and discrimination and expect to accomplish much...

Overall I don't have too much issue with where this is at though... And again I don't think it will be needed much longer.

On a somewhat related note, how the hell are teams not falling over Lovie Smith??

Lovie is guaranteed 5 million from the Bears for 2013

 

[johnnykillz]

I think we are pretty close to this being a memory, but not quite fully there yet... I also agree Jade though, you couldn't flip this in any way... You can't fight double standards and discrimination with double standards and discrimination and expect to accomplish much...

Overall I don't have too much issue with where this is at though... And again I don't think it will be needed much longer.

On a somewhat related note, how the hell are teams not falling over Lovie Smith??

Because he can't find a QB to save his GD life.

 

[irishff1014]

This flat out bull sh!t

 

[mgriff]

I agree that there doesn't NEED to be more minority coaches. Owners will hire the best possible man, but making sure that these minorities at least now are given the chance to be interviewed is a good thing, bc now maybe they will be the best possible man but it would've never been known if they weren't even given a chance to interview. I think it works out for everyone.

So the color of your skin is the basis for a job interview?

 

[johnnykillz]

So the color of your skin is the basis for a job interview?

That's what the consensus here is in support.

Knowledge, experience, and qualifications should be the predetermined cut.

 

[ACamp1900]

Because he can't find a QB to save his GD life.

He could search for a Browns qB for years as far as I'm concerned

 

[johnnykillz]

He could search for a Browns qB for years as far as I'm concerned

I agree with that.

 

[palinurus]

In some employment settings, "affirmative action" can be tantamount to quotas and I oppose that thinking. In the NFL, though, you have a private entity (not government enforced, that is) with a lot of black "employees" (players) -- and they are guys who understand the game and are great motivators, that is, they are qualified. I think the Rooney rule is not to require they be hired, but to encourage they be interviewed. Such things can give an opening to guys like Dungy or Tomlin, guys who can definitely do the job, but who might have been overlooked without a broad net having been cast. I'm okay with that - and I'm no bleeding heart.

 

[Irish8248]

Affirmative Action is ironically discriminatory and should be ruled unconstitutional ... i get overlooked or passed over because Im a white male? if i took my gpa and LSAT score and added a minority status, I couldve gone to 90% of the law schools in the country. Hows that fair?

 

[SaltyND24]

Only handout I want is in the form of vBucks...jam

 

[johnnykillz]

Affirmative Action is ironically discriminatory and should be ruled unconstitutional ... i get overlooked or passed over because Im a white male? if i took my gpa and LSAT score and added a minority status, I couldve gone to 90% of the law schools in the country. Hows that fair?

Agreed.

 

[SaltyND24]

Also, whenever someone white hits someone black on the football field...there should be an automatic flag thrown for "Personal Foul- Hate Crime"...ijs

 

[johnnykillz]

Johnny Football can't be termed, a "scrambler." He white.

And I agree.

He's just a turd in a bucket:

The SEC.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Progressivism: ideas so good they have to be mandatory

 

[50milesSE ND]

Affirmative Action is ironically discriminatory and should be ruled unconstitutional ... i get overlooked or passed over because Im a white male? if i took my gpa and LSAT score and added a minority status, I couldve gone to 90% of the law schools in the country. Hows that fair?

Yes this is true unfortunatley. I dated a girl who went to Western Michigan and didn't get into thier Occupational therapy program the first attempt and had a 4.0 gpa while others of different skin color with lower gpa did. My wife was a staffing supervisor, and now oversees them. They still get money incentives from the government for hiring minorities. I just don't get it. I like earning my way not given my way.

 

[Redbar]

I don't want this taken wrong, but I don't care about political correctness either. This topic was brought up during pregame of Baltimore Ravens/ New England game. Does it bother anyone that it has to be about race? I don't see anyone getting mad that 70% of players in NFL are African American. So why does it matter what percent of coaches are Caucasian? This is just really annoying to me. Howie Long was once asked why players of different races get along so well in the NFL. His response was that you know the guy beside you and across the line from you were the best at that position..... What do you guys think?

I have heard people say that they hate how much money these players make in professional sports, and I know a coach who used to say that the NFL is a truly capitalistic market: Those players make that money because they are rare commodities, if there were 6'5" 300lbers that could move like cats on every street corner they would not make the money that they make. This statement does not hold true with coaches, there lies the problem. Some great coaches are never given the opportunity because they are not known by the guys that get recycled as head coaches, they aren't from the right "coaching tree", or they just aren't in the very small circle that is the coaching profession. Whatever you think about this particular issue, trying to compare it to players is NOT equivalent. Coaching is a clique. Whereas, no matter how good a guy you are in the locker room if you can't get separation on your go route you are probably not going to be around long.

 

[irishpat183]

Anytime you force anyone/organization to do something based on race, it's racism.

So this is racism.

And like one poster said, it does t bother anyone that the NFL players are overwhelmingly black. It's because the majority of talent at that level is black players....well, maybe the best coaches and corrdinators are white? So what is the issue?

 

[irishpat183]

Progressivism: ideas so good they have to be mandatory

Love it. I have this bumper sticker.