[Go Irish] US Army All-American Game Thread

Irish Envy · Jan 7, 2006

QueensNY said:
We need to land a DT in this class so if McCoy's not coming they need to search for another player.

Yep, like I mentioned about 12 of the Top 35 DTs according to Scout are still available. I'm sure Notre Dame knows where they're at and probably will adjust accordingly.

Irish Legend · Jan 7, 2006

I'm not too impressed by Rolle.

absoluteirish59 · Jan 7, 2006

LuckoftheIrish86 said:
Just the thought of Walls and Mcneil at CB makes my mouth water.

Me too!! Mmmmmmmm. Mccoy is a manchild! He is in the backfield every play. I don't think that swim move is gonna fly at the next level though, he'll be leaving his LB's hanging out to dry. Sam young looks like a beast too. If we had to choose between young and McCoy i"d take.... both. LOL!

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

Svoboda said:
Significantly. He has stood out amongst the CBs in this game by far. I think he was underrated because of his average build.

I don't think size was an issue. He's listed at 6-0 175 in high school. His coach says he's pushing 6-1 which puts him among the tallest in Scouts CB rankings. And there are quite a few CBs ranked higher that are in the 170- 175 pound range. He's shown in this game he can leap. I believe he played in an All-Star game prior to this one and turned in a good performance as well.

PantsB · Jan 7, 2006

tOSU commit Wells given the MVP for his 3 TDs.

weisfaninmass · Jan 7, 2006

WHat a difference from last year when everyone said "Iowa Hawkeye". Also, I think DJ Hord was lone Irish commit at the game.

Irish Envy · Jan 7, 2006

PantsB said:
tOSU commit Wells given the MVP for his 3 TDs.

Being coached by a tOSU coach, eh? Not surprising here. Not too fond of the fact they let Tedd Ginn Sr. coach but that's a different story.

Irish Legend · Jan 7, 2006

Chris Wells reminds me of a guy named Bubba, friend of Forrest Gump.

weisfaninmass · Jan 7, 2006

McNeil looks like he can SKY.

Gizmo · Jan 7, 2006

I'm playing a little catch-up with my TiVo, but does anyone else think Clausen has Chris Quinnish features? If he dyed his hair black the two of them would be twins.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

Svoboda said:
Yep, like I mentioned about 12 of the Top 35 DTs according to Scout are still available. I'm sure Notre Dame knows where they're at and probably will adjust accordingly.

McCoy is one of those 12.

Of the remaining 11 I only recall a few that were even mentioned in connection with ND and most were early on in the eyeballing stage.

#17 Sione Fua mentioned ND in November but there didn't seem to be reciprocal interest. He never visited.

Phil Taylor, Alleric Mullins, and L.T. Walker were all mentioned early on but faded. Walker has a reported ACT of 16 - no possibility.

Many of these guys have already taken their officials and keep ND Admission in mind. They're not all gonna be qualified IF available.

We better pull McCoy away from Stoops.

iloveirish_12 · Jan 7, 2006

When is Young and Mccoy saying where they are going?

LuckoftheIrish86 · Jan 7, 2006

signing day I believe ( Feb 1)

Irish Envy · Jan 7, 2006

BGIF said:
McCoy is one of those 12.

Of the remaining 11 I only recall a few that were even mentioned in connection with ND and most were early on in the eyeballing stage.

#17 Sione Fua mentioned ND in November but there didn't seem to be reciprocal interest. He never visited.

Phil Taylor, Alleric Mullins, and L.T. Walker were all mentioned early on but faded. Walker has a reported ACT of 16 - no possibility.

Many of these guys have already taken their officials and keep ND Admission in mind. They're not all gonna be qualified IF available.

We better pull McCoy away from Stoops.

Yeah, it's a long shot, but I'm sure someone is working the phones because we need a legit DT badly unless they are convinced one or two of the lineman can move sides of the ball. I can see Mullen, but not sure about Olsen.

Slingsup · Jan 7, 2006

Is anyone else stoked about getting Carufel? I know we are still waiting on Young but Carufel is our highest rated OL according to scout.com that we just picked up today. This is one of if not the best OL class in the nation. I just wish DL would fall in line...Maybe Young can play DT? Now, that is just scary, hehe.

Irish Envy · Jan 7, 2006

Slingsup said:
Is anyone else stoked about getting Carufel? I know we are still waiting on Young but Carufel is our highest rated OL according to scout.com that we just picked up today. This is one of if not the best OL class in the nation. I just wish DL would fall in line...Maybe Young can play DT? Now, that is just scary, hehe.

Definitely.

People are down because we lost out on Lewis and he is at a big need, but I'm stoked at Carufel and McNeil. Of all of our recruits, they really performed well today. Too bad others didn't get an opportunity to play more like Aldridge.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

Svoboda said:
Yeah, it's a long shot, but I'm sure someone is working the phones because we need a legit DT badly unless they are convinced one or two of the lineman can move sides of the ball. I can see Mullen, but not sure about Olsen.

Preseason I expected ND to take 6 OLs to replenish depth. This is a very good OLine class without Young. With him it's the best. I was impressed with Carufel, Wenger, and Young.

The practice reports on Stewart noted he didn't get good instruction on technique in high school. He's a big kid with a spare tire that pushed smaller kids around in high school. The photo of the split got my attention. He's got flexibility. Think back to 2000. ND had a 300 pound guard, Jim Jones, who was a phenominal weight lifter. He had been tried at center but couldn't bend well enough. He was muscle tight. Stewart with Mendoza to trim his body and Latina to teach him will be good OL not just a big kid.

The practice reports on Webb weren't rave reviews but in reality Webb isn't a top OL. The fact that he made it to All-Star game is notable. Again, I expect Latina to improve/provide the technique. I didn't see Webb play today but with all the typing I missed several plays. Anybody see how he did?

Which takes us to Olsen the only one of the ND OL class that didn't get selected although Scout ranks him a tad higher than Webb and a couple of slots behind Stewart.

If one of the OLs COULD move to the other side of the ball. Olsen is the man. He's the quickest and at 300 pounds has the size now.

I'm neither projecting him to DL nor comparing him to McCoy just noting that he appears the most logical choice if there's a void to fill after Signing Day.

Óglaigh_na_hÉireann · Jan 7, 2006

I said this to myself a while ago and it holds truer now more than ever: Raeshon McNeil will be the biggest surprise in this class. He seems like a really cool guy as a person and the recruiting services havn't respected his ability. Well, he put them to shame today. A 5.8 rating by Rivals seems too little. This kid ought to be a 6.0 prospect, he looked better than all the other defensive backs today. Don't even get me started on Scout giving him only 3 stars. What a joke.

This kid will see the field a lot next year and may even start. Hopefully that'll be true of Walls, as well.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

Óglaigh_na_hÉireann said:
I said this to myself a while ago and it holds truer now more than ever: Raeshon McNeil will be the biggest surprise in this class.

He'll play Special Teams opening day and will compete for PT. But he was always highly thought of by the ND coaching staff.

I think the find in this class is Gallup who is ranked at the bottom of the class and evoked groans from ND fans. He demonstrated this week with the All-Stars he can play with the big dogs and he's not afraid to get off the porch.

jiggafini19 · Jan 7, 2006

USC was the big story today.

They are a force. Out in that dump they call a conference, they'll be there year in and year out.

Notre Dame will be going up against them quite a bit in recruiting as long as Weis is around. The best of the best will be looking at both.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

As for McCoy there is a poster on NDN that has persisted in claiming McCoy's ND bound. He shared his soucres with the board moderator's who found them credible.

Aside from "Gruden is Irish" they are not a group that rushes to speculation.

I still fear the homestate Sooners but hold this glimmer of hope.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

UpstateIrish,

In which state are you Upstate?

jiggafini19 · Jan 7, 2006

The guys over at BGI seemed convinced he'll go Irish. I hope that's the case.

Robert Rose was extremely impressive to me today. But McCoy looks to be someone that can make a difference right away at a spot ND needs to fill.

It will come down to Young and McCoy on Signing Day.

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

jiggafini19 said:
It will come down to Young and McCoy on Signing Day.

And if they go elsewhere, does ND do the last minute scramble or hold the scholarships for next year?

jiggafini19 · Jan 7, 2006

BGIF said:
And if they go elsewhere, does ND do the last minute scramble or hold the scholarships for next year?

Great question.

I think you have to take Jason Kates if he's there. He could serve as a DT or the 6th O lineman. Otherwise, hold the two spots and they'll probably need to get FOUR defensive tackles in 2007.

FYI, McCoy, Kates and Ben Alexander (Texas) were the only DT offered by ND. (Lewis is listed as an OL).

BGIF · Jan 7, 2006

It would be bizarre after all the jockeying to get the EEs if ND ended up with unused slots.

I've got to think West has already exclaimed, "I gave up my Senior Prom for you. You better be there!"

MemphisIrish · Jan 7, 2006

someone @ NDNation is claiming there is an interview from mccoy (less than an hour old) that eliminated the Irish. Any validity to that?

ACCIrish · Jan 7, 2006

I agree with you guys Mcneil defintily shined in the game outperformed myron rolle for sure

bigdon · Jan 7, 2006

MemphisIrish said:
someone @ NDNation is claiming there is an interview from mccoy (less than an hour old) that eliminated the Irish. Any validity to that?

I cannot find this. What is the site? NDnation does not show any of this.

scooper · Jan 7, 2006

My belated thoughts:

It's all been said about McNeil. Wow.

We need McCoy. Right now, I think he'd be the best DT on our roster. And I'm the one that's been on here preaching about not relying on or overhyping incoming freshmen.

Robert Rose and McCoy were the best players on the field. Rose will shine in Ohio St's defense. Hopefully McCoy shines in ours.

I watched Stewart in pass protection. He held his own very well. It was hard to guage his run blocking, as they rarely tried unless it was short yardage situation.

Darnnit Ginn, play some other running backs!

No QB looked good. But it's hard for a QB to establish any kind of rhythm in a game like this. Tebow struck me as a gutsy guy who is willing to take the licks in Urban's offense. I think UF found their guy. Frazer looked big and strong and more athletic than I expected. He needs coaching, but the material is there.

I forget his name now, but that little WR going to Texas can scoot.

Boy, would I love to have Brandon Graham or Micah Johnson. Both laid some serious licks and can move for guys their size.

Did I mention McCoy?

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