Mustain?

[irishwavend]

Does anybody know what the word is on the Mustain decommitment and all of the rumors? Also, if we were there, does that me Frazer is out of the mix?

 

[BGIF]

Oh my!

Mustain Withdraws Commitment

By Kurt Voigt
The Morning News/Razorback Central
Date: Dec 6, 2005

SPRINGDALE -- Sources confirmed Monday that Springdale quarterback Mitch Mustain withdrew his commitment to the University of Arkansas in a meeting with Razorbacks coach Houston Nutt during the day.

Mustain, Springdale coach Gus Malzahn and Mustain's mother, Beck Campbell, all declined comment Monday night.
Mustain, the Bulldogs' senior quarterback who was named the Gatorade National High School Player of the Year at a banquet on Monday, committed to Arkansas before a state television audience on Aug. 15 along with teammate and receiver Andrew Norman, who also committed to Arkansas.
The announcement came after a whirlwind of recruiting during the spring and summer for several Springdale players, five of whomcommitted to Division-I colleges during the summer. Those players included offensive lineman Bartley Webb (Notre Dame), receivers Damian Williams and Ben Cleveland (Florida) and both Norman and Mustain, who were the last to make their commitments public.
At the announcement on Aug. 15, Mustain said he chose Arkansas over Notre Dame and that the commitment was a relief after the hectic spring and summer.
In his two years as a starter for the Bulldogs, Mustain is 329 of 492 passing for 5,981 yards and 67 touchdowns. He set the state's Class AAAAA single-season record for yards passing (3,817) this season while leading the Bulldogs to the state championship on Saturday in a 54-20 win over West Memphis in War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock in front of a record crown of 25,386.

 

[Stealingshrimp]

nevermind--
looks like TN is leading for him now -- since cutcliffe is back there

 

[scooper]

Wow. That's a big one. I'd rather see him go to Arkansas. Though if I were a big time QB, and ND was out of the picture, I'd take a hard look at playing for Cutcliffe. Charlie got his guys.

 

[jiggafini19]

Charlie got his guys.

Sure does.

Tennessee might be a smart move for Mustain. He could probably start quickly depending on how fast he picks things up.

I like Frazer and Jones. Wouldn't replace them for anyone else.

 

[bigdon]

Sure does.
Tennessee might be a smart move for Mustain. He could probably start quickly depending on how fast he picks things up.
I like Frazer and Jones. Wouldn't replace them for anyone else.

Agreed--Charlie wanted Frazer first. I think he could have had Mustain but after Frazer the hard recruiting stopped. Mustain is making the smart decision. He would die on the vine at Ark.

 

[jiggafini19]

Agreed--Charlie wanted Frazer first. I think he could have had Mustain but after Frazer the hard recruiting stopped. Mustain is making the smart decision. He would die on the vine at Ark.

Jones announced right before Mustain did. They probably almost had him.

Roy Wittke, the passing coordinator at Arkansas, had Tony Romo (Dallas Cowboys) and Matt Jones under his watch between stops at Eastern Illinois and Arkansas. I know Cutcliffe is as good as they come, but Wittke is no slouch.

 

[bigdon]

Jones announced right before Mustain did. They probably almost had him.
Roy Wittke, the passing coordinator at Arkansas, had Tony Romo (Dallas Cowboys) and Matt Jones under his watch between stops at Eastern Illinois and Arkansas. I know Cutcliffe is as good as they come, but Wittke is no slouch.

Besides the coach I think Tenn will give him better support than Ark. The recruiting at Tenn is as good as anybody. Ark is not in that class.

 

[Arkie_Irish_Fan]

would anyone on here want Mustain on the Irish? if ND had the chance to get him?

 

[irishnd31]

would anyone on here want Mustain on the Irish? if ND had the chance to get him?

Pre Frazer and Jones...Hell YES!! BUT. These kids have COMMITTED to us and have done a hell of a job helping out in the resruiting process to bring ND back to the top of college football. I think we should show our committment back to these two kids and back them 100%. I for one am glad to have both of these kids suiting up for the blue and gold next year and look forward to the next several years.

 

[jiggafini19]

would anyone on here want Mustain on the Irish? if ND had the chance to get him?

Nope.

 

[Arkie_Irish_Fan]

No one wants the #1 quarterback in the nation? That's surprising

 

[jiggafini19]

No one wants the #1 quarterback in the nation? That's surprising

Tim Tebow?

 

[Arkie_Irish_Fan]

No that would be Mitch Mustain

 

[jiggafini19]

No that would be Mitch Mustain

Tim Tebow...Mitch Mustain....Matthew Stafford. They're all pretty much one, two, three depending on what you pay for.

I'll take Jones, the quarterback, and Frazer.

Mitch Mustain is old news. Gerald McCoy is someone that ND needs to be worrying about. So is Sam Young.

 

[scooper]

Back when the rumors about Frazer looking around were going on, I would have taken Mustain. Those rumors were put to rest. He was the first QB that Cutcliffe and Weis offered. And Jones had great numbers and adds an athletic dimension. I'm happy with them.

 

[bigdon]

Nope.

Mustain was offered early and could have been Irish before Jones. He chose not to commit. So be it. Frazer and Jones had ND as their first choice and I couldn't be happier with them. Mustain might be a guy who's not going to be happy anywhere. So long and good luck. We've got ours!!

 

[jiggafini19]

There are ND fans right now who are "Demetrius Jones for wide receiver" dreamers just drooling right now.

Yes, let's take a third QB, ala Clark-LoVecchio-Holiday days of yore, move Jones to WR and waste a spot for what could be McCoy or Young.

Focus, guys. Focus. Frazer has already said no more visits. Jones has already said no more visits after the banquet.

If Mustain wants to come in as a walk on, maybe on a Lacrosse scholarship, great. Unless he wants to play defensive tackle, there is no need for him.

 

[bigdon]

There are ND fans right now who are "Demetrius Jones for wide receiver" dreamers just drooling right now.
Yes, let's take a third QB, ala Clark-LoVecchio-Holiday days of yore, move Jones to WR and waste a spot for what could be McCoy or Young.
Focus, guys. Focus. Frazer has already said no more visits. Jones has already said no more visits after the banquet.
If Mustain wants to come in as a walk on, maybe on a Lacrosse scholarship, great. Unless he wants to play defensive tackle, there is no need for him.

This says it all-- I am off this thread.

 

[scooper]

Mustain was offered early and could have been Irish before Jones. He chose not to commit. So be it. Frazer and Jones had ND as their first choice and I couldn't be happier with them. Mustain might be a guy who's not going to be happy anywhere. So long and good luck. We've got ours!!

I wouldn't say he won't be happy anywhere. I think he's taken a step back and looked at things again. The vibe out of Arkansas is that success in recruiting the Springfield 5, specifically Mustain is important to Nutt's security. He's had some good teams, but they are a bit impatient with him. They are especially impatient with losing some top in-state talent. Landing Mustain was seen as a huge boost to Nutt's outlook.

Now look at that through Mitch's point of view. The pressure of being a top in-state QB was already there. Now the job of his coach-the guy who recruited him-rests with his own success on the field. At Arkansas, the pressure on him would be intense. Now consider that he'd probably be asked to start as a true freshman and consider the possibilty that it hurts him early and the Hogs falter. All the sudden his coach is on the hot seat and is gone post-season. Now he's looking at playing for a new staff and the microscope and pressure are pointed strictly at him. That's a tough spot.

Compare that to Tennessee. Sure, Phil may have some pressure on him but he has that NC in the bank and coupled with bringing in Cutcliffe, he's probably bought some time to turn things around. His job is certainly more secure than Nutt's. Also consider that while he's not proven yet, Tennessee has a young QB in place with a lot of experience. For two more years, the pressure will be on Ainge while Mustain has time to learn and be prepared before he ever hits the field.

A lot of players want to play right away. But in some cases, it's not always the best situation for them to do so. That's why I think Frazer and Jones have a great situation. Next season should be an easy one for them. They can learn while watching one of if not THE best QB in college football. The next year the slot will be open for competition with nobody having a decided advantage in experience unless God forbid Quinn gets hurt and Wolke or Sharpley get extensive playing time.

When the time comes for open competition, those two will have a slight advantage in experience, but Frazer and Jones will have the benefit of probable stronger potential, coupled with a year under Weis and Vaas.

 

[domerfor life]

No one wants the #1 quarterback in the nation? That's surprising

No. We need a couple of stalwarts at defensive tackle. We need some O-line help as well. We don't need another quarterback no matter how good he is. That would be disrespectable to the two quarterbacks we have recruited and could lead one to transfer.

 

[Guest]

No that would be Mitch Mustain

Well according to Weis and Cutliffe, Frazer is the best QB in the country. I could care less what some recruiting guru thinks, I'll put more stock into what those two men thought...

 

[Guest]

I remember reading an article about how much pressure was put on Mustain from the people in Arkansas, it literally said he and his family would forever have to move out of Arkansas if he didn't attend school there.

Tennesse is a much better fit for him, lots of talent on that team with the exception of the QB position, and a very good QB coach in Cutliffe. Its a no brainer to me.

 

[wclancy]

No one wants the #1 quarterback in the nation? That's surprising

Brady Quinn??? ND already has him!


Seriously, ND already has two "top 10 rated" QBs committed. And frankly other than the top 5-10 players in the entire country, there's usually little to differentiate the next 100 or so. So out of Mustain/Tebow/Frazer/Stafford/etc - it'll be their mental & physical development at the next level that decides who the #1 QB really is; at this point, it's quite premature to even give that topic much consideration.

 

[adam0033]

Seriously, ND already has two "top 10 rated" QBs committed. And frankly other than the top 5-10 players in the entire country, there's usually little to differentiate the next 100 or so. So out of Mustain/Tebow/Frazer/Stafford/etc - it'll be their mental & physical development at the next level that decides who the #1 QB really is; at this point, it's quite premature to even give that topic much consideration.

I'd love to see a publication that has Jones listed as a top 10 QB. Understanding that there are more important needs on the DL and possibly LB, wouldn't it be counterproductive to not show interest in Mustain. I understand that 3 QBs seems like a lot but at least one will be redshirted and ask the New York Jets if you can ever have too many QBs. I'm not advocating going all out for Mustain but if he shows genuine interest in coming to South Bend you can't ignore it. I know people think that Weis will get his pick of the litter but it's not every year that you get a shot at the top QB in the country.

 

[St.Kittsnd]

Adam, I disagree with your opinion. Next year we will have Quinn, Wolke, Sharpley, Gorski, Frazer and Jones. I believe this is enough! After next year, we loose Quinn, and the year after that, we loose Wolke.

Next year, Weis has said that he intends to bring in two new QB recruits. As it stands right now, we have an early lead for Claussen-who could be the number one recruit in the nation at any position, let alone Quarterback. We need Defensive line help and Offensive line help and thats where Weis and his staff should keep their focus.

 

[jiggafini19]

I'd love to see a publication that has Jones listed as a top 10 QB.

Finding me one that doesn't would be more difficult.

 

[Guest]

I'd love to see a publication that has Jones listed as a top 10 QB. Understanding that there are more important needs on the DL and possibly LB, wouldn't it be counterproductive to not show interest in Mustain. I understand that 3 QBs seems like a lot but at least one will be redshirted and ask the New York Jets if you can ever have too many QBs. I'm not advocating going all out for Mustain but if he shows genuine interest in coming to South Bend you can't ignore it. I know people think that Weis will get his pick of the litter but it's not every year that you get a shot at the top QB in the country.

Lemming has Jones in the top 10, and he's the number 2 dual threat QB on Rivals and a top 100 player.3 QB's is too much, don't you think that would hurt our chances with Clausen? Mitch had his chance to come to ND and decided to wait, well the ship has sailed, he's missed his chance, I doubt ND would even consider taking him if he wanted to go there, the position is filled...

Frazer is the number one QB in the country, because he was Weis' number one choice.

 

[Domer95]

Frazer is the number one QB in the country, because he was Weis' number one choice.[/QUOTE]


V.G. rationale, I like that, QueensNY. You can't argue with it, look at BQ's #s...

 

[domerfor life]

Lemming has Jones in the top 10, and he's the number 2 dual threat QB on Rivals and a top 100 player.3 QB's is too much, don't you think that would hurt our chances with Clausen? Mitch had his chance to come to ND and decided to wait, well the ship has sailed, he's missed his chance, I doubt ND would even consider taking him if he wanted to go there, the position is filled...
Frazer is the number one QB in the country, because he was Weis' number one choice.

Yeah I think I go with Charlie on this one. Brady's results are proof-positive that Weis can coach. Also see Tom Brady. Charlie wants a guy who's not afraid to be "the guy" for him. He also wants a guy who can take getting criticized in front of his teammates. Evidently he saw that in Frazer and Jones and I for one trust his judgement. I'm pretty sure he wanted Mustain, but it's kind of too late. Tennessee looks like the most viable option for him. You can't deny the success that Cutliffe had with the Manning brothers.