OMG, the Whining is getting bad.

[NDgettysburg]

for those of you who don't scan through ndnation.com from time to time. especially for the oregon fans. check out the latest version of the rock, and pay particularly close attention to the thoughtful analysis as to why oregon is barking up the wrong tree.....

http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=rockreport;pid=125;d=this

Good call BigIrish! I read this a week or so ago...really takes the wind out of the whiner's sails.

 

[jiggafini19]

Hey Oregon, the plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300185788.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://mag.awn.com/issue9.04/9.04images/strike03_DuckTales.jpg

http://www.softycentral.com/sights/newphoto/harr.jpg

 

[tommys5]

What's Oregon's claim?

What's Oregon's claim?

remember Oregon's only loss was to the number 1 team in the Country and the last time you won any bowl game was in 1994.

Where are the quality wins that Oregon can offer??? WSU?

 

[domerfor life]

for those of you who don't scan through ndnation.com from time to time. especially for the oregon fans. check out the latest version of the rock, and pay particularly close attention to the thoughtful analysis as to why oregon is barking up the wrong tree.....

http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=rockreport;pid=125;d=this

richduck, i challenge you to provide a rebuttal that's even half as well thought out as the analysis in the link above. you might try removing your green tinted goggles and approaching it as a college football fan rather than a "caught in the green and yellow headlights" oregon fan.

I guess that just about sums it up, huh? You know it won't help though. They'll still talk about schedules and the loss to MSU. It's stupidity. If Oregon supporters wrote a thread half as intelligent and thorough as that, maybe I would actually listen. I doubt that would happen though. They will blame us for getting hosed and then will get blasted in the Holiday Bowl just like Cal did last year. Losers.

 

[Richduck]

Question

Question

Of the five computer rankings that use the SOS formula into the equation how many of those has Notre Dame ahead of Oregon? The answer is 1. That is why the Ducks are ranked higher then the golden flamers in the BCS rankings. Yes we where blown out by USC, but you lost to Michigan State, MICHIGAN STATE, at HOME!!! Pathetic!

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5120506

 

[NDgettysburg]

Yes we where blown out by USC, but you lost to Michigan State, MICHIGAN STATE, at HOME!!! Pathetic!

pitiful pitiful argument....who played better vs the best team in the country? that's the best measuring stick out there. enough said.

 

[Richduck]

Where are the quality wins that Oregon can offer??? How about Cal, Fresno State, and ASU. Yours? Better yet lets look at the quality losses you have LMFAO, Michigan State, LOL.

 

[Richduck]

Who played

Who played

Better against the worst team out there? You still lost buddy.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Better against the worst team out there? You still lost buddy.

Hey, if you want to compare who between Oregon and ND is better, use common opponents. And why not use the best of that group? Oh, I know why....and so do you. Your team fell apart, while mine stood toe to toe with the best. Yes, they both ended up in the L column, but it shows each team's ability and yours had none.

And who is on who's board stirring the pot? Some life you must have....

 

[Richduck]

That's your only argument

That's your only argument

You played USC tough at home? So what, Fresno State played USC tough at USC. You lost to a 5-6 Michigan State team and needed a late fourth quarter touchdown to beat Stanford. A loss is a loss and you have two. It's going to be fun watching Notre Dame get blown out again in a bowl game.

 

[Irish Envy]

You played USC tough at home? So what, Fresno State played USC tough at USC. You lost to a 5-6 Michigan State team and needed a late fourth quarter touchdown to beat Stanford. A loss is a loss and you have two. It's going to be fun watching Notre Dame get blown out again in a bowl game.

Maybe so, but we'll be 14.5 million richer and playing in a BCS bowl... while you're Oregon Duck squad will be playing leftovers in the almighty Holiday Bowl.

Regardless of opponents, wins and losses, all you have to do is win 9 games and finish in the Top 12 of the BCS to be eligible. Period. Beyond that, everything else is the simple fact who makes dollars and sense... Notre Dame does and Oregon doesn't. They don't pick the teams for the best matchups, they pick the teams that are going to make them the most cash.

Additionally, the fact that you have to come to an Irish message board to try and pump up your Ducks amplifies the fact tenfold that Notre Dame matters. You don't see us finding Oregon boards to defend our Irish.

 

[guff]

Of the five computer rankings that use the SOS formula into the equation how many of those has Notre Dame ahead of Oregon? The answer is 1. That is why the Ducks are ranked higher then the golden flamers in the BCS rankings. Yes we where blown out by USC, but you lost to Michigan State, MICHIGAN STATE, at HOME!!! Pathetic!
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5120506

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!

It's not about strength of schedule, win and losses, rankings - It's about money, $$$$, cash, jack, loot, bucks, greenbacks. Repeat after me..."The BCS is about money." And Notre Dame has more fans that are willing to part with their money.

Attention Duckheads! No one outside of Eugene gives a fiddler's fart about Oregon Football. NO ONE! That's why the Ducks won't be in the BCS. Who the Ducks beat or lost to doesn't matter. Oregon has NO fan base outside of Oregon. None, zip, zilch, nada, nil. Millions of people root for ND. MILLIONS!

ND has fans everywhere. There are Irish fans in Eugene, OR, Ann Arbor, MI, Gainsville, FL and State College, PA. If you don't believe me look at the ABC 'regional' coverage maps for ND games ( http://espnppv.com/espnppv/blackouts/ndst.gif and http://espn-att.starwave.com/tvlistings/map/ncf/050924.pdf ). Three quarters of the US gets ND, the rest gets a game of local interest. Why? Because ND has a national audience.

Sorry but no one cares about Oregon. And that is why Oregon will be in San Diego. I hear it's great there, especially this time of year.

And on top of all that ND is the better team.

 

[NDgettysburg]

You played USC tough at home? So what, Fresno State played USC tough at USC.

And here I thought denial was a river in Egypt when all along it's in Oregon. Who knew?

Just for fun I looked up some season stats.....
ND is ranked higher in the country than your Ducks in:
Rushing YPG
Passing YPG
Total YPG
QB Rating
Rushing Defense

Oregon is ranked higher in the country than ND in:
Passing Defense
Total Defense

ND has a QB with over 3000 yards, a RB with over 1000 yards and 2 receivers over 1000 yards....compared to Oregon's single receiver with over 1000 yards.

Oh, but I know you're a big fan of SOS...so I looked that up on the NCAA website...congratulations, Oregon did have a tougher schedule (sorted by cumulative opposition):

Oregon is currently ranked 49th at 0.53763441
ND is currently ranked 63rd at 0.50943396

You really think a difference of 2.8% makes up for the woeful stats your team has compiled?

 

[Domer95]

I guess that just about sums it up, huh? You know it won't help though. They'll still talk about schedules and the loss to MSU. It's stupidity. If Oregon supporters wrote a thread half as intelligent and thorough as that, maybe I would actually listen. I doubt that would happen though. They will blame us for getting hosed and then will get blasted in the Holiday Bowl just like Cal did last year. Losers.

Missed this before my Remedial BCS post for Richquack. Sorry for the dupe BigI, DFL and IE boarders.

 

[Richduck]

Agree it is about money

Agree it is about money

Finally you can admit that. But saying you are better then Oregon or more deserving because of your close loss to USC and a 5-6 Michigan State team is laughable. However, the last time Oregon played in the Fiesta our ratings where much higher then the N.D. vs OSU matchup in the Fiesta. Hopefully the Fiesta will see that and match us up with Penn State while you play in the Orange.

 

[guff]

...
And on top of all that ND is the better team.

Apparently reading comprehension isn't one of his strong suits

 

[duck4life]

ND doesn't deserve SQUAT!!!! You said it yourself all you have to do is win 9 games!!!! good to see your goal is 9 wins a year!!!! Explains your crappy schedule!!!! You got spanked at HOME by a 5-6 team from the crappy 10 barley beat a HORRIBLE Stanford team and you think you deserve BCS. You would think you Domers would have learned your lesson the first time you didn't deserve being in a BCS bowl game!!! And by the way when was the last time ND won a bowl game?!?!?!

 

[Irish Envy]

ND doesn't deserve SQUAT!!!! You said it yourself all you have to do is win 9 games!!!! good to see your goal is 9 wins a year!!!! Explains your crappy schedule!!!! You got spanked at HOME by a 5-6 team from the crappy 10 barley beat a HORRIBLE Stanford team and you think you deserve BCS. You would think you Domers would have learned your lesson the first time you didn't deserve being in a BCS bowl game!!! And by the way when was the last time ND won a bowl game?!?!?!

How many National Titles do you folks have up there? Also, what is your all-time winning percentage? Dare to compare each program by their all-time numbers?

 

[Irish Envy]

Finally you can admit that. But saying you are better then Oregon or more deserving because of your close loss to USC and a 5-6 Michigan State team is laughable. However, the last time Oregon played in the Fiesta our ratings where much higher then the N.D. vs OSU matchup in the Fiesta. Hopefully the Fiesta will see that and match us up with Penn State while you play in the Orange.

Admit what? Those are the rules of the BCS game. There are several automatic berths and then the remainder in the Top 12 are at-large berths. This was presented to and signed off by your beloved University.

What I don't get is your frustration towards Notre Dame when Ohio State, also with two losses, is sitting in front of you. Makes you wonder why you're so worried about Notre Dame.

Yes, why don't you answer this: If your program is heads and shoulders better, why are you worried about little ole Notre Dame? After all, we are in a rebuilding year with a new coaching staff, a new offense and the previous TWO regime's recruits.

 

[Aerosmith777]

Congratulations on beating Michigan, Navy, BYU, and squeaking by a Stanford team that lost to UC-Davis. What happened the last time Notre Dame played a team from the state of Oregon? When's the last time Notre Dame won a bowl game again?

Wow, a Ducks fan relying on Oregon State to fight your battles for you. I mean damn, that's as bad as a Michigan fan relying on Ohio State to fight their battles for them...oh wait, that would never happen b/c Big Ten fans have a little thing called pride.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

Finally you can admit that. But saying you are better then Oregon or more deserving because of your close loss to USC and a 5-6 Michigan State team is laughable. However, the last time Oregon played in the Fiesta our ratings where much higher then the N.D. vs OSU matchup in the Fiesta. Hopefully the Fiesta will see that and match us up with Penn State while you play in the Orange.

were your ratings actually higher,or are you just saying that because I really don't know too much about your creditability because aren't you the one that said oklahoma cancelled the game with oregoon?
do you even know who the head coach is?

I'll bet you even think Cellen Klemens is the quarterback don't you?

no wait,I think I remember seeing that game because the other channells had re-runs of
chaci goes to hollywood and animal kingdom

 

[Irish Envy]

Here are the bowl ratings of Notre Dame and Oregon since the 2000-2001 seasons. Just for everyone's information.

2000-2001
Fiesta Bowl - Notre Dame vs Oregon State (10.7)
Holiday Bowl - Oregon vs Texas (7.0)

2001-2002
Fiesta Bowl - Oregon vs Colorado (11.3)
Notre Dame: No Bowl

2002-2003
Gator Bowl - Notre Dame vs. NC State (6.2)
Seattle Bowl - Wake Forest vs. Oregon (2.4)

2003-2004
Sun Bowl - Oregon vs. Minnesota (3.5)
Notre Dame: No Bowl

2004-2005
Insight Bowl - Notre Dame vs. Oregon State (2.9)
Oregon: No Bowl

 

[Vince Young]

Richduck, I still think you're quacking up the wrong tree. Head on over to the West Virginia boards.

Does Oregon belong in a BCS bowl? Hell yes. Is Oregon getting screwed? Hell yes.

Is Oregon getting screwed by Notre Dame? Hell no.

But since you're so hell-bent on this argument anyway...

Where are the quality wins that Oregon can offer??? How about Cal, Fresno State, and ASU.

Hang on a blessed minute. You're counting Arizona State as a quality win? 6-AND-5 ARIZONA STATE?!? I'm sorry, but if you get to count Arizona State as a quality win, we get to count 6-5 BYU and 6-4 (soon to be 7-4) Navy too. How 'bout we just agree on how asinine that would be and move on. BYU and Navy are not quality wins, and neither is Arizona State.

On strength of schedule... I just did some research. Notre Dame's oppenents this year combine for a record of 58-62 (.483), while Oregon's combine for a record of 65-57 (.533). But wait... that includes I-AA Montana and their 8-4 record. Take Montana away, and Oregon's I-A opponents are 57-53 (.518).

.518 versus .483. Yeah. That's a huge gap there. That's like arguing over the difference between Bob Davie and Ty Willingham.

But hey, we lost to 5-6 Michigan State at home.

But hey, you got absolutely pantsed by a team we took to the wire, USC.

How about that... a college football debate with no clear answer. What a surprise.

Bottom line? West Virgina stole your BCS spot this year Richduck, not Notre Dame. Take your squawking elsewhere.

 

[jiggafini19]

Thank you Vince Young.

Do these Oregon fans have any lucid thoughts? I keep hearing scUM, BYU, Navy, Michigan State and a "squeaked" out win by Stanford.

SC has been "squeaking" by all year in the Pathetic Athletic Conference 10. Since SC "squeaked" by ND back in October, I'm not sure what we're getting at.

See, in football nowadays you need to be ready to play every Saturday, regardless of who you play, or you'll get beat. Stanford had a LOT going for them last Saturday and wanted that game. They rose up. ND didn't play it's best game, but guess what....still won.

Played 11 games on a schedule that was made up 4 or 5 years ago. Won 9.

Can we close this thread?

 

[irishnd31]

Thank you Vince Young.
Do these Oregon fans have any lucid thoughts? I keep hearing scUM, BYU, Navy, Michigan State and a "squeaked" out win by Stanford.
SC has been "squeaking" by all year in the Pathetic Athletic Conference 10. Since SC "squeaked" by ND back in October, I'm not sure what we're getting at.
See, in football nowadays you need to be ready to play every Saturday, regardless of who you play, or you'll get beat. Stanford had a LOT going for them last Saturday and wanted that game. They rose up. ND didn't play it's best game, but guess what....still won.
Played 11 games on a schedule that was made up 4 or 5 years ago. Won 9.
Can we close this thread?

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!! These dudes just do not get it. ND is signifigant. ND brings in money. ND puts rear ends in the seats. ND is a story this year.

Oregon....who cares? Do I think that they are getting screwed in the whole BCS picture? Yes. But ND does not decide who goes to the BCS games. No. The BCS decides who goes to the BCS games. Stop your crying Oregon, and accept the fact that you are not signifigant. If you go 11-0, you are a story. You are a second place team in a weak conference, so accept it and move on.

I haven't heard any of these clowns state the fact that Penn State is going to a BCS after losing to Michigan, who if I am not mistaken... Notre Dame beat. But I am sure that they will just keep saying how we lost to Michigan State. That one is old boys. Let a dead dog sleep.

Hey Jiggs, I got through one of these posts without saying one curse word towards the Ducks. You impressed?

 

[jiggafini19]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!

Hey Jiggs, I got through one of these posts without saying one curse word towards the Ducks. You impressed?

Nice Work I-ND31. Here's something to close this thread out with a laugh:

http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/images/news/duck_doom1.jpg

 

[irishnd31]

Nice Work I-ND31. Here's something to close this thread out with a laugh:
http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/images/news/duck_doom1.jpg

That is freakin hysterical. Good times Jiggs. Good times.

 

[jiggafini19]

Hey Oregon, the plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300185788.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://mag.awn.com/issue9.04/9.04images/strike03_DuckTales.jpg
http://www.softycentral.com/sights/newphoto/harr.jpg

These are good, too.

 

[NDgettysburg]

But saying you are better then Oregon or more deserving because of your close loss to USC and a 5-6 Michigan State team is laughable.

.

 

[irishnd31]

These are good, too.

Where in the hell did you find that Harrington billboard? That is the best of all of them.