BCS Watch for November 19

jiggafini19

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The first half was the flatest the team has played and looked all year and we're recalling memories of the great TW.

Ah, Notre Dame football is back.
 
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jiggafini19 said:
I'm not sure what the hell everyone is so worried about.

A win in Palo Alto equals Fiesta Bowl. this is about money. It isn't about how much you beat Syracuse by or what your opponents have done. If they go 9-2, they're going to Arizona on New Year's Day.

Oregon and Ohio State aren't going to fill that stadium. Tostitos knows this.

The power of the potato chip compells thee.

I agree that a win in Palo Alto is the key to the BCS or Fiesta, if nothing changes ahead of ND in the BCS. However, I do think Ohio State fans travel well and would fill the stadium. On a second note, Ohio State vs. ND would be a great game this year with the defensive strength of Ohio State vs. the offensive strength of ND. I would love to see the ohio state fans complain and moan about how the refs weren't just to them or the wind affected such and such or what have you....Go Irish!
 

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And that is exactly the game we'll get should ND win in Palo Alto on Saturday.

Those two teams travel well and will pack the place. Last time Ohio State was at the Fiesta Bowl, the won the big bag of chips. Bringing them back to play ND would be a cash cow.

ND offense vs. OSU defense, but don't forget the Buckeye Spread against Minter's 11. Last time ND saw a spread offense from the Big Ten.....
 
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I'm not sure which game you were watching. I was watch the #6 team in the nation, a 35 point favorite, look like a Ty Willingham coached ND team in the first half. I guess you missed the missed FG, blocked FG, dropped passes, misthrown passes, porous OLine, inability to adjust to a blitz with an empty backfield, fortuitous roll out of bounds of the Walker fumble, 0 for 7 on 3rd down conversions in the first half, 3.7 yds/rushing attempt, Quinn's 7.3 yds/attempt was the 2nd lowest of the season, his % Complete was 3rd worst, his QB Efficiency Rating 2nd lowest of the season, passing yds was 4th lowest of the season.

Thank goodness for Leo Ferrine.

BTW, Pollsters don't deduct the last 7 minutes of the game results because it's garbage time. They don't watch the whole game (thank goodness this week) but the count the entire score. Ask JOEPA, a few years ago he emptied the bench and the opponent put up to late scores and PSU dropped several slots in the Poll with a solid win. PSU didn't play near as sloppy as ND did today.

Fortunately the voters will only watch the highlights and will hear what I heard watching the highlights: "Quinn first 3,000 yd passer in ND History", "Quinn to Samardzija for a touchdown, how many times have we made that call this season?", "Samardzija and Stovall are the best receiving duo in ND history", "Samardzija and Stovall are the only pair of receivers on a team this season to each have 10 TDs", "Walker sets an ND rushing record with 6, 100 yd games'.

True statements all and representative of the season's efforts but not representative of the last game's effort. They won't see the inconsistency anyone without homer glasses saw, nor the inability to dominate Sagarin's 117th ranked team, but perhaps if they read the game stats they'll be impressed with ND's 35% 3rd down conversion rate, or ND's 2-5 success rate in the red zone.

It was a "W" but it was far from impressive. Ty's gone. Inconsistency insn't cherished anymore. One loss and other two loss teams have been jawing at trailing ND in the polls. The Syracuse game gave some of them an opportunity close the gap and move ahead.
BGIF, if your whole theme is that ND was awful I agree. The score looks like ND wiped them up but that is deceiving. If ND plays the way they are capable the score is 100 to something.

I just hope we don't carry this type of performance to Palo Alto or we will all be crying in our beer. ND will find out that Stanford is no Syracuse.
 

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Have no fear.

ND will give the Trees a beating. Cal handed Stanford a dose of 27-3 medicine.

This team will be focused, prepared and will adjust to whatever Stanford has in store for them.

Just stay healthy and execute.
 

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bigdon said:
BGIF, if your whole theme is that ND was awful I agree. The score looks like ND wiped them up but that is deceiving. If ND plays the way they are capable the score is 100 to something.

I just hope we don't carry this type of performance to Palo Alto or we will all be crying in our beer. ND will find out that Stanford is no Syracuse.


No Don my theme wasn't that ND was awful, they weren't. It was that ND was inconsistent, ND was NOT impressive except for the highlight clip. Good thing the clip didn't have to be longer. Quinn hit some good passes, threw some bad ones. The receivers maded some great catches and dropped some easy ones. The OLine gave Quinn a lot of time of some plays and were lost on adjusting to the blitz on others. I expect a USC, UM, PSU to beat our guys on some plays they're supposed to do that; Syracuse isn't, particularly this Syracuse team.

Stanford has a much better offense than Syracuse but not as good a defense. And speaking of inconsistent, Stanford beat ASU but lost to 1AA CAL-Davis. I thought I read they played yesterday's game with the #2 QB as #1 has a shoulder injury. ND will beat Stanford but we need to beat them convincingly. ND beat Syracuse yesterday 34-10. Rutgers beat them 31-9. South Florida beat them 27-0.

I know ND can't get to #1 this year but #5 is possible if positioned prior to a the bowl games.
 

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I'm not sure what the hell everyone is so worried about.

A win in Palo Alto equals Fiesta Bowl. this is about money. It isn't about how much you beat Syracuse by or what your opponents have done. If they go 9-2, they're going to Arizona on New Year's Day.

Oregon and Ohio State aren't going to fill that stadium. Tostitos knows this.

The power of the potato chip compells thee.


"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."

Perhaps you're not old enough to remember Bobby Bowden voting FSU #1 for the '93 season and ND not #2 but considerably lower to ensure he won the National Championship. He wasn't the only one but he admitted it openly.

Do you remember how Oregon State got to be ND's opponent in the 1/1/01 Fiesta Bowl? Fiesta wanted ND v VT. PAC 10 Commissioner threatened to pull his conference out of the BCS unless one of his teams got selected. Suppose the BIG 10 flexes their muscles and makes the same threat pick OSU or we walk. Meanwhile SEC makes a similar threat over a 9-2 Auburn team.

Now consider CAL last year with blatantly biased voting.

Finishing in Top 12 with 9 wins makes ND Bowl ELIGIBLE. Finish in the Top 6 and they can't move us. You're aiming for minimum eligibility, I'm aiming for a mandate. Dominating opponents gets us there.

After #1 ND and #2 MSU played to the 10-10 tie, Ara removed any doubt as to who was #1 the next week when ND destroyed #10, USC, 51-0 behind ND's #2 QB Coley O'Brien.
 

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I'd love to see the chip makers pass on ND. I really would. Worst business decision in the world.

All I remember about 1993 was the horrendous defense against Boston College and being on a learner's permit three months away from my driver's license.
 
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