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Scholarship offer has been pulled???

I actually read this on another board and can't get to Blue and Gold from work.

Can anyone confirm this?

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Strike Rose Off the List by KEVIN DELGADO, BGI
10/27/05 - With Notre Dame seeming to have lost interest, a top offensive line prospect cancels his official visit. ...


BigDon, sounds like CW isn't wasting airfare money.

I hope this means ND's wrapping up OLine recruiting.
 

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Maybe Latina liked Curtis Bailey's tape. (See Curtis Bailey thread)
 
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Yep,

I actually think this bodes well for our recruiting status. I am of the mind that we are full.

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Rose started to go the way of the FSU Noles.

If that's the case, best of luck. He would have been a nice addition.
 
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Let's face it. Most of the top players want an offer from ND even though they may have no interest in the school. It makes you look good if you can say you turned down the ND offer because FSU or OK or USC was a better program.

Congratulations to Charlie! We may never know the reason the offer was pulled but If Weis feels there is little hope of getting these guys he can better spend his limited time on the ones that are leaning in our direction.

I am sure Rose will get a first class education at FSU ( or wherever). Unfortunately he just saw his chance at a degree drop by 60%.
 

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October 27, 2005
Are The Irish Getting Picky?
by KEVIN DELGADO

Daron Rose will not be making an official visit to Notre Dame, nor will the 6-foot-5, 310-pound offensive lineman be attending the University of Notre Dame next year. Apparently, the Irish have decided to concentrate on other recruits.
“I hadn’t talked to (the Notre Dame recruiters) since September,” said Rose, not hiding the frustration. “I didn’t know what else to do because they didn’t seem interested anymore, so I cancelled my visit.”

Rose had originally slated to be amongst the gaggle of recruits that visited South Bend on October 15 during the game against Southern Cal. However, because of a scheduling conflict, he rescheduled that visit to November 5 for the Tennessee game.

In the meantime, the Irish recruiters apparently cooled on Rose who has adjusted his list of schools accordingly.

“I’m down to seven schools,” says the Tampa native. “Florida, Florida State, Michigan, the University of South Carolina, Tennessee, USC and Duke.”

Rose has scheduled an official visit to Michigan for early December and two more in January to Tennessee and Florida State.

Notre Dame already has commitments from two offensive linemen in tackle Bartley Webb and guard Eric Olsen. The Irish’s lack of interest in Rose will only fuel speculation that they also have silent commitments from other top prospects.

So here goes:

If Notre Dame had projected Rose as a tackle, strong interest from Sam Young or Jim Barrie might cause them to take a pass. Other tackles that have been on the Irish radar include Lou Eliades and Lawrence Marsh.

Another possibility, but more of a long shot, is the Irish projecting Will Yeatman for the tackle position. Although the 6-foot-6, 255-pound Yeatman has shown a lot of interest in Notre Dame; he could end of being a tight end because of his athleticism.

The most likely scenario is that Rose was projected to the guard position and that the Irish have other plans for that spot. For weeks, the rumor mill has been churning that Matt Carufel is much more interested in wearing blue and gold than he has publicly stated. There has also been talk about Chris Stewart favoring Notre Dame with an interest in enrolling as early as January.

If any of this is true, it means that Notre Dame’s 2006 recruiting class, which is currently ranked the third best in the nation, is even stronger than it looks on paper. This is particularly true if Chris Stewart enrolls early or if Will Yeatman comes in on a Lacrosse scholarship. These scholarships would not count against the 25 allotted by NCAA rules.

While it’s hard not to feel bad for Rose, who seems to have envisioned Notre Dame a possibility, he will surely end up at a good football school. The fact that he doesn’t see the Irish on his radar can only mean that Notre Dame is in the position to be picky. And that hasn’t happened in a long time.
 
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bigdon said:
Let's face it. Most of the top players want an offer from ND even though they may have no interest in the school. It makes you look good if you can say you turned down the ND offer because FSU or OK or USC was a better program.

Congratulations to Charlie! We may never know the reason the offer was pulled but If Weis feels there is little hope of getting these guys he can better spend his limited time on the ones that are leaning in our direction.

I am sure Rose will get a first class education at FSU ( or wherever). Unfortunately he just saw his chance at a degree drop by 60%.

Good point - it is like having a free agent in baseball saying they are talking to the Yankees.
 

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jiggafini19 said:
October 27, 2005
Are The Irish Getting Picky?
by KEVIN DELGADO

Daron Rose will not be making an official visit to Notre Dame, nor will the 6-foot-5, 310-pound offensive lineman be attending the University of Notre Dame next year. Apparently, the Irish have decided to concentrate on other recruits.
“I hadn’t talked to (the Notre Dame recruiters) since September,” said Rose, not hiding the frustration. “I didn’t know what else to do because they didn’t seem interested anymore, so I cancelled my visit.”

Rose had originally slated to be amongst the gaggle of recruits that visited South Bend on October 15 during the game against Southern Cal. However, because of a scheduling conflict, he rescheduled that visit to November 5 for the Tennessee game.

In the meantime, the Irish recruiters apparently cooled on Rose who has adjusted his list of schools accordingly.

“I’m down to seven schools,” says the Tampa native. “Florida, Florida State, Michigan, the University of South Carolina, Tennessee, USC and Duke.”

Rose has scheduled an official visit to Michigan for early December and two more in January to Tennessee and Florida State.

Notre Dame already has commitments from two offensive linemen in tackle Bartley Webb and guard Eric Olsen. The Irish’s lack of interest in Rose will only fuel speculation that they also have silent commitments from other top prospects.

So here goes:

If Notre Dame had projected Rose as a tackle, strong interest from Sam Young or Jim Barrie might cause them to take a pass. Other tackles that have been on the Irish radar include Lou Eliades and Lawrence Marsh.

Another possibility, but more of a long shot, is the Irish projecting Will Yeatman for the tackle position. Although the 6-foot-6, 255-pound Yeatman has shown a lot of interest in Notre Dame; he could end of being a tight end because of his athleticism.

The most likely scenario is that Rose was projected to the guard position and that the Irish have other plans for that spot. For weeks, the rumor mill has been churning that Matt Carufel is much more interested in wearing blue and gold than he has publicly stated. There has also been talk about Chris Stewart favoring Notre Dame with an interest in enrolling as early as January.

If any of this is true, it means that Notre Dame’s 2006 recruiting class, which is currently ranked the third best in the nation, is even stronger than it looks on paper. This is particularly true if Chris Stewart enrolls early or if Will Yeatman comes in on a Lacrosse scholarship. These scholarships would not count against the 25 allotted by NCAA rules.

While it’s hard not to feel bad for Rose, who seems to have envisioned Notre Dame a possibility, he will surely end up at a good football school. The fact that he doesn’t see the Irish on his radar can only mean that Notre Dame is in the position to be picky. And that hasn’t happened in a long time.

Goodbye Rose, we hardly knew ye!

This piece sounds A LOT like David Nelson's from last year. Waaaah, waaah, wahh... it takes two seconds to pick up a phone. YOU didn't want ND bad enough, so enjoy wherever you end up.
 

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seems ND could be on their way to filling the OL in this class with....

OT bartley webb-committed
OG eric olsen-committed
OG matt carufel-possible silent commit
OG chris stewart-possible commit
OT sam young-still has ND on his list
OC daniel wenger-still has ND on his list but UF might be his leader

who needs rose.
 

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We may never know the reason the offer was pulled but If Weis feels there is little hope of getting these guys he can better spend his limited time on the ones that are leaning in our direction.

We don't know the offer was pulled. That tidbit came off a message board somewhere from some fan making an assumption. It didn't come from an interview.

Note Rose didn't say, Coach Latina, Ianello, whoever called and said, "We've filled our slots best wishes with you hunt." or "We've decided to look elsewhere." And those kind of messages do appear. Rose mentioned he hadn't heard from ND in about a month probably about the time he cancelled the USC game visit and rescheduled for TN. Unless there was some untoward exchange then like David Nelson had with CW last recruiting season, I'd have expected ND to stay in touch. Lemming and the other gurus have given the Weis staff high marks on their constant contact with recruits. Until I read otherwise I take the ND pulled the scholarship as a fan interpetation. I think the train has left the station.

Check the visits below. There's still most of 3 months to schedule visits but note who hasn't make additional visits nor isn't talking about making additional visits.

While Rose didn't visit on 10/5 Carufel, Marsh, and Butch Lewis OL/DL did. Eliades was also suppose to visit on 10/5 but had to reschedule. No date has been set for the rescheduled visit although Eliades has a visit set with VT on11/15. Brown, Stadler, and Stewart visited for MSU. Brown chose VT and Stadler ALA. Stewart has reported ND, LSU, MISS and A&M as his finalists but his only scheduled visit is MISS (where his sister attends) on 11/18. Stewart has been mentioned as a January admission. In a recent article James Aldridge said he was meeting with ND Admissions this weekend concerning his early enrollment. If Stewart isn't already a done deal, I suspect the window for early enrollment doesn't extend much past his 11/18 visit to his sister.

The only other OLs scheduled to visit ND are Young and Wenger on 11/5. Young visited ND unofficially last summer and he has no other visits scheduled. Wenger tripped to PU on 10/1 and while long considered a UF lean, ND is his only other scheduled visit. Carufel has no other visits scheduled. Marsh raved about his trip to the USC game but he has no other visits scheduled.

Butch Lewis has scheduled visits with UGA 11/11 and USC 12/2. In a article from 3 or 4 days ago Barrie noted he had visits set with UTN 10/29, UM 11/18, FSU 12/9 and that AUB, LSU, ND, and SCAR were in the running for the other two visits.

And BTW, I though Rose had the "nastiest" looking head shot in his scout.com profile. I don't know whether Rose can block better than the others but his picture conjured up an image to me of a Charlie Weis OL.

"Many are called, few are chosen."
 

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As a postscript, Will Yeatman, TE and Lacrosse star, who could grow into an OT but is being recruited as a TE, has officially visited NU 9/30. He's also been to Duke, UNC, and ND unofficially (holds a lacrosse scholarship offer) and about 5 days ago he said he might visit UMD.
 
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from florida scout message board, don't know if its true or not, poster only has like 7 posts...


Sam Young - Not going to like this...
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I have heard from a very good source, that Sam Young is a done deal to ND. His father loves the Domers, and they are stoked for their ND visit. I am hearing he is a heavy Irish lean at this point.

Don't kill the messanger. Bright side? I hear good stuff about Wenger. Gilbert is UM all the way.
 

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"good source" internet posts are tough to believe, but any positives we hear are just that-positive. Let's hope he's blown away come 11-5. He and Webb would make an Excellent tackle combo. Put Stewart and Carufel at G, with Olsen at C in a few years. That's an offensive line.
 

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QueensNY said:
from florida scout message board, don't know if its true or not, poster only has like 7 posts...


Sam Young - Not going to like this...
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I have heard from a very good source, that Sam Young is a done deal to ND. His father loves the Domers, and they are stoked for their ND visit. I am hearing he is a heavy Irish lean at this point.

Don't kill the messanger. Bright side? I hear good stuff about Wenger. Gilbert is UM all the way.

Rumor, but a nice rumor to hear.
 

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Sam Young, Bartley Webb, Eric Olsen, Matt Carufel and Chris Stewart...

Wake up The Echoes, baby.
 

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You know? If that happened, the Irish may not end up with the best overall class (though it would be high) but they would easily have the best O-line class, the best RB class, the best QB combo and arguably the best DB class. Four positions that really had some needs this recruiting season. Talk about the coaches hitting on their targets!
 
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Correct me if Iam wrong but an "offer' is extended in writing. We may argue that the offer to Rose was not "pulled" but that does not have to be in writing. If Rose has not heard from ND since Sept. I can conclude that the "offer" no longer exists whether it has been formally negated or not. Reason would lead me to believe ND is no longer interested in him. These recruits are contacted on a daily basis by mail, text, or otherwise.

I would like to believe that Weis and Co. found out something that caused them to forget about Rose but,like I said, we may never know.
 

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Rose is very similar to that of Jason Kates....raw.

Rose worked hard over the summer to get stronger and slim down some. He isn't quite as polished as the Carufel and Stewarts of the world.

He's been leaning Florida State lately and was supposed to visit for the SC game and rescheduled for Tennessee. How can he not have heard from ND since September with that scheduling and rescheduling?
 
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