Illegal Immigrant to get Law License?

[Irish Houstonian]

Right so what would give me any hope that if I went back and did it all over again that you would "catch and concrete arguments" in what I write. Some people are a lost cause and are so blinded by their prejudices that no amount of facts will ever change their minds. They have closed minds and nothing is going to change that.

What do you have to "do all over again"? You can just say what you're arguing against. You do know, right? I swear I will keep an open mind.

 

[RDU Irish]

There was no name calling. Can't you read? I was asking about the swamps in Houston. Again, that is not what NDinLA did. He went back and quoted previous posts of IrishPat. It was very evident what IrishPat was saying.

I read the same thing and got a different impression. Then again I'm not a horribly biased race baiter.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

I read the same thing and got a different impression. Then again I'm not a horribly biased race baiter.

Ahh, now that is some name calling. I think you forgot the italics.

 

[RDU Irish]

I said I am not a race baiter, didn't say you were. Knew you would fall for that....

 

[95NDAlumNM]

What do you have to "do all over again"? You can just say what you're arguing against. You do know, right? I swear I will keep an open mind.

I am arguing against IrishPat and his posts. done.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

I said I am not a race baiter, didn't say you were. Knew you would fall for that....

Nice are you 12 years old?

 

[RDU Irish]

Just trying to find your level.

So do you have anything to add to the immigration debate or do you just show up to race bait?

 

[RDU Irish]

And for the record, I don't blame the mods for deleting the last four miles of this thread since it has been nothing but race baiting and name calling. Too bad those who claim to have experience with the immigration system don't offer any real critical analysis of the problem and only attack those who do.

To paraphrase Bluto -Go Irish, have a good weekend, hasta luego, ariva derchi and whatnot.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Just trying to find your level.

So do you have anything to add to the immigration debate or do you just show up to race bait?

Do you know what race baiting means?

Definition:
the making of verbal attacks against members of a racial group

Where in anything that I said did I make an "attack" against members of a racial group? I am fairly sure that is exactly what Irishpat did and what I have been arguing against. You cannot just label a group of people as being lazy just because you had a bad experience with a very small subset of it.

From Irishpat

Do you know 10 immigrants? Cause I know a bunch (I own a janitorial company)

And let me tell you, there isn't 10 hardworkers for every 1 lazy.......

This comment is all about race baiting. He did not say the 11 workers at his company only has 1 that is hard working. He did say he owns a janitorial company but then he makes this sweeping comment.

 

[Bluto]

So I work with all kinds of Mexicans legal and otherwise. Anyhow, there are some lazy Mexicans there are some hardworking ones. I don't think anyone here is a racist. Insensitive beyond comprehension yes but racist not really.

Anyhow, here's a serious question.

How come only certain elements of the economy specifically corporations and the super wealthy to a certain extent seem to be able to enjoy the benifits of globalization by operating without constraints as far as borders are concerned? Parking money in offshore accounts is one example. The whole idea of free trade zones would be another.

How come labor is not permitted the same luxury, particularly in so called free trade areas?

 

[ACamp1900]

So we have a situation where the poorest of the poor from other countries come here and the richest of our rich at times take their wealth elsewhere... interesting dynamic huh??

anyway, to answer your question… respectfully… I don't like that corporations are basically forced to move aboard... yes I believe if you want to make money you are often forced to do so... I would love to see them stay here in the good ole USA... but sure as hell don't blame them for costly regulations or union contracts that simply don't make sense...

The honest answer to the second part would be people should do whatever the hell they want with their money... where I have issue is when they want to dip into mine... Or when total strangers assume they have the right to tell others what to do with their hard earned dollar to be really frank... your example, no matter how it's spun, has nothing to do with my pocket book... this issue however often does...

I don't see any issues regarding sovereignty or citizenship coming from what you described... well, when it's on the up and up anyway... but I do see issue with foreign governments opening telling their poor to come here so they can use our safety nets and funnel money back to their countries of origin... or attempting to use their populations to influence our elections...

I have read your posts often Bluto… we will never agree on economics or politics… believe me… it won’t happen… I respectfully answered your question as I felt it was in part directed at me… I also honestly have little to no interest in your response as I think one thing we can both agree on is that it will go absolutely nowhere in the long run. Agree to disagree.

 

[Bluto]

I have read your posts often Bluto… we will never agree on economics or politics… believe me… it won’t happen… I respectfully answered your question as I felt it was in part directed at me… I also honestly have little to no interest in your response as I think one thing we can both agree on is that it will go absolutely nowhere in the long run. Agree to disagree.

The question wasn't directed at anyone really, just a general question.

Have a good weekend. Go Irish! See you all at the Purdue game!

 

[NDinL.A.]

I don't even know (or care to know) how to check my own rep. Kind of funny to me he plays Joe Cool in his responses and throws a hissy fit over his precious rep. Oh, no. Bet I opened myself up to neg reps since everybody now knows it will sneak under my radar. Blast this blasted internet!

So dshans thinks Irishpat is a racist. That is the only point I can decipher out of NDinwherever's posts. I agree though, lots of good experience to learn from here and I would love to check back Monday and see a civil discourse on how people would change/fix the immigration issue (or maybe even defend the current system as adequate #doubtful).

Back to the name calling. WTF? Summarize your beef already. NDinWherever pretty much just called him a racist because he has experiences, opinions on those experiences and over generalizes on statements. In most cases, NDinWherever jumps to conclusions and unfairly broadens the scope of the statement to play some Louis Farrakahn type leap of logic to equate everyone who disagrees with their point of view as RACIST. It is a tired old game and you are playing it too.

A. LOL at the hissyfit...I was on my usercp and saw a red dot, something I'd never seen before, and I was just shocked that a grown man would do that before even entering the discussion. Like vbucks, I don't play the "look at how many reps I have...I'm a real man!" game, b/c it means absolutely nothing (to me). And then I just laughed at you for doing it. Hissyfit? Nah, cause after writing to you (instead of hiding behind a red bomb) I was done with it and couldn't give a crap about it. but again, whatever makes you feel better bro!

B. That last paragraph...holy hell, could you be any more wrong??? Houston and you don;t agree with me - did I call you racists? No. But according to you, I played a logic game where I "equate everyone who disagrees with their point of view as RACIST". WTF? And no, I didn't make any generalizations (lol, when you're talking about a guy who made a TON of generalizations). I called irishpat a racist (and a liar) because he is. Pretty plain and simple. Read the thread again, and read ALL his posts on these types of topics, which I have done, and then get back to me. And if you still can;t see it, well, that's a YOU problem and there's nothing more I can do.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Too bad those who claim to have experience with the immigration system don't offer any real critical analysis of the problem and only attack those who do.

Nah, I only attack the racists on the board. Again, for like the millionth time, many of us have addressed the issue on the thread, but you choose not to read it. There are real problems with immigration, like I've stated a million times. Too bad the blind racists have to ruin their critique of the system by going full-blown racist on the thread. Ain't it sad?

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I am arguing against IrishPat and his posts. done.

You can't argue "against" a person...An argument is a position on an issue in which reasoning and evidence is used to persuade an audience to adopt that position.

What position of IrishPat's do you disagree with?

You just wrote that he made tons of "sweeping arguments". What arguments were you thinking of when you wrote that?

 

[95NDAlumNM]

You can't argue "against" a person...An argument is a position on an issue in which reasoning and evidence is used to persuade an audience to adopt that position.

What position of IrishPat's do you disagree with?

You just wrote that he made tons of "sweeping arguments". What arguments were you thinking of when you wrote that?

I am against irishpat's position. Just like the republicans only goal for the last 4 years has been to defeat Obama. Not to improve this country, not to help the American public. Just to defeat Obama.

Edit: oh also I can argue against anything I want. This is America at least the last time I checked.