Top 5 Qb's?

[big_j_4]

Who do you think are the top 5 quarterbacks in college football?

 

[KMac151993]

all-time or just this year?

 

[big_j_4]

just this year, mine are...
Omar Jenkins
Leinart(i dont know how he would do on an average team)
Tate
Leak
Vince Young(awful passer but exciting to watch)

 

[Guest]

Leinart
Young
Palko
Brohm
Henne

 

[jiggafini19]

Omar Jacobs is going to get drafted ahead of Leinart. Best talent in the nation at his position.
Leinart will be everyone's favorite.
Vince Young is the most exciting to watch.
Chris Leak will be crazy under Urban Meyer.
Tyler Palko from Pitt is very underrated.

 

[big_j_4]

I think that henne sucks, he had the most talented receiver last year who caught poorly thrown balls. Any quarterback in his position couldve easily done better. Drew Tate is the man, he carried the whole entire hawkeye offense on his back without a running game whatsoever to take the pressure off. Iowa was 2nd to dead last in rushing, having a true walkon sophmore runningback (5th string) because of injuries. Iowa went on to another top 10 finish.

 

[jiggafini19]

I think that henne sucks, he had the most talented receiver last year who caught poorly thrown balls. Any quarterback in his position couldve easily done better. Drew Tate is the man, he carried the whole entire hawkeye offense on his back without a running game whatsoever to take the pressure off. Iowa was 2nd to dead last in rushing, having a true walkon sophmore runningback (5th string) because of injuries. Iowa went on to another top 10 finish.

Thank you for the Henne comment. Not many people admit that Braylon Edwards made that kid look like an All American. Their WR corp is still good, but you'll see a noticeable change in Henne this year, especially since UM had some very good O-Line hogs get drafted as well.

 

[Guest]

for a freshman he was pretty darn impressive

 

[BigIrish]

for a freshman he was pretty darn impressive

yeah, but "heisman hype" impressive? the quality of your receivers makes the difference between a good quarterback and a great quarterback.

 

[maison bleu]

I'd take Henne over Brady Quinn in a heart beat.

Highly debatable: "the quality of your receivers makes the difference between a good quarterback and a great quarterback"

More often it's the QB that makes the receivers look better, not vice versa. Case in point: Tom Brady & Drew Henson helped convince everyone (well, at least duh Bears) that David Terrell was worth a top ten draft pick... Playing with the crappy Bears QBs, he sucked. Back with Brady in NE this year, I predict a much better year for DT.

 

[BigIrish]

I'd take Henne over Brady Quinn in a heart beat.

Highly debatable: "the quality of your receivers makes the difference between a good quarterback and a great quarterback"

More often it's the QB that makes the receivers look better, not vice versa. Case in point: Tom Brady & Drew Henson helped convince everyone (well, at least duh Bears) that David Terrell was worth a top ten draft pick... Playing with the crappy Bears QBs, he sucked. Back with Brady in NE this year, I predict a much better year for DT.

also highly debatable: "i'd take henne over brady quinn in a heart beat."

you can't argue with quinn being a good, experienced quarterback. but fortunately, we'll get some pretty good insight into that statement this fall, so there's no need to go back and forth on it.

aww, i'm not going as far as saying henne is a bad quarterback. he's perfectly capable, and will develop well in a UM program known for developing quarterbacks.

i'll give you that - not all great quarterbacks are great because of their receivers. but there are a lot of quarterbacks that look good because their receivers are good enough to stretch out for and chase down a lot of average to poorly thrown passes.

regardless of how well he develops, henne was the beneficiary of an excellent group of receivers last year.

 

[das4776]

Henne

Henne

I would also be a happy man with Henne, as a freshman playcaller he was very very good. Edwards is a big play WR but they have some strong wideouts left in that program. With a great ground game (Hart and the Freshman Grady) to go along with the passing attack the only thing that should hold them back is maybe their playcalling by the coaching staff...

 

[adam0033]

Omar Jacobs is going to get drafted ahead of Leinart.

That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Leinart was going to be the #1 overall pick this past year. Barring a serious injury I don't see any other quarterback going ahead of Leinart. Leinart has done more in a pro-style offense against better competition. Doubting his talent by laying all the accalades on his teammates is being ingnorant.

 

[big_j_4]

Who was impressed with Drew Tate last year? He really impressed me, while I was watching the Iowa-Michigan game he had his helmet tore off but did not go down, instead, helmetless, looked downfield for an open receiver. He also carried the Iowa team single-handedly.

 

[jiggafini19]

That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Leinart was going to be the #1 overall pick this past year. Barring a serious injury I don't see any other quarterback going ahead of Leinart. Leinart has done more in a pro-style offense against better competition. Doubting his talent by laying all the accalades on his teammates is being ingnorant.

Ridiculous? The draft is in April. Too much can happen between now and then. In July of 2004, how many people thought Alex Smith would be the first overall pick?

Has anyone ever wondered why Leinart stayed in school? Probably because he might have been the third best QB in the draft. On many people's charts, he was. We'll never get to find out, but don't go banking on Leinart going to San Francisco as a sure fire bet. Right or wrong, NFL scouts value arm strength over accuracy. Leinart's strength is certainly the second.

If anyone hasn't heard of Omar Jacobs, believe me, they will be the end of this season. Alex Smith didn't play the schedule Aaron Rogers did and Rogers slipped all the way to Green Bay in the draft. Smith played under Urban Meyer. Jacobs plays for Bowling Green, which runs the system Urban Meyer left behind there. Who Leinart plays and who Jacobs plays will ultimately mean nothing. There are two QBs in the NFL right now that came out of the MAC that are doing quite well (Big Ben, Byron). Carson Palmer needs to have a breakout season this year or the mediocre label could come out soon. Ditto Joey Harrington. I don't doubt Leinart's talent, but comparing him individually to Jacobs leaves plenty of room for discussion.

And time will tell on this one.

 

[jiggafini19]

More often it's the QB that makes the receivers look better, not vice versa. Case in point: Tom Brady & Drew Henson helped convince everyone (well, at least duh Bears) that David Terrell was worth a top ten draft pick... Playing with the crappy Bears QBs, he sucked. Back with Brady in NE this year, I predict a much better year for DT.

Terrell dropped so many balls while completely wide open that it's a wonder he even had two hands at the end of his wrists. I wish him well, but regardless of who the QB was, Terrell sucked. Made spectacular plays, but looked like a chump on the easy ones. The only thing that sucked more was his attitude. The phrase "act like you've been there before" should have been stamped right on his @ss. He'd make a first down catch and an episode of Soul Train would follow. Danced and yapped more than he made plays.

But you may have a point here...maybe Henne is the talent and Braylon Edwards is an overrated bust waiting to happen. Edwards will not out muscle NFL defensive backs. His speed is above average at best, certainly not excellent. I kept my fingers crossed that Cleveland would take him because I knew Jerry Angelo, in his infinite drafting wisdom, would take Edwards.

Great college talent. Solid pro for sure. Not a Pro Bowl player, however.

 

[WeisGuy05]

I will take Leinhart, Tate, Palko, Leak, and Quinn. I believe Weis is going to bring out the best in Quinn....need a stud wideout other than McKnight and TE Fasano. Hopefully, Stovall can live up to his potential and incoming D.J. Hord can help.

 

[big_j_4]

nm

 

[maison bleu]

One things for sure--it's the O-line that allows both QBs and receivers to shine... The big uglies never get their due.

 

[BigIrish]

that's for sure.

 

[jiggafini19]

Offensive linemen do their job without much fanfare. That's why Orlando Pace being considered for a Heisman a few years ago was so incredible.

Henne had a great line and great receivers, but he still got the job done. But would Gutierrez had put up those kind of numbers?