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IrishGrizz

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I can't figure out how Mich State can have a grad rate of 43% and not get any crap.
 

irishmarine

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schools losing scholarships due to grad rate

schools losing scholarships due to grad rate

i saw this oinline and thought it was a point at just how good of a school we are.

Seventeen Division I-A football programs face penalties for failing to graduate enough players, the NCAA announced Tuesday with the release of its Academic Progress Rates

Rivals.com College Football - It's academic: NCAA reveals APR sanctions

we educate and kick ass at football
 

ACamp1900

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Could someone help me out... I saw yesterday that USC was at a 50% grad rate yet KU gets put on proby????

WTF is KU's grad rate that makes them so punishable??? and it is REALLY hard to believe they are the worst in the Big 12... I would have bet money that KU's grad rate was better than USC's... same for WSU
 

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I guess it depends on the GSR, APB, STD, whatever number the NCAA looks at as positive.

Again anything but the raw numbers are bogus. Very few teams exceed 70% based on the raw numbers.
 

ACamp1900

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Well until I see some kind of actual full statement as to the reasoning I'll fall in line for the first time with the whole NCAA conspiracy... This points to the NCAA protecting the big programs who need a sanction (USC, tOSU, Florida and obvious others) while bashing those using some of the same tactics to try and get that level (WSU, Nevada, SDSU, Kansas)

It's something I have always rolled my eyes at when others have mentioned it but man alive... not ONE major football program?!?! give me a break
 

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Could someone help me out... I saw yesterday that USC was at a 50% grad rate yet KU gets put on proby????

WTF is KU's grad rate that makes them so punishable??? and it is REALLY hard to believe they are the worst in the Big 12... I would have bet money that KU's grad rate was better than USC's... same for WSU

The Graduation Success Rate (GSR) is a measurement of student-athletes who graduated within 6 yrs of coming to the university - and omitting those who left school for non-academic reasons, such as leaving for a professional career. There are no penalties attached for low GSRs.

The Academic Progress Rates (APR) aim to be predictive indicators of progression towards graduation. This is the report that just came out, individualized for each sport, and a four year compilation. Each player on the sport's roster can earn a maximum of two points - a point is given for being academically eligible and one for staying with the institution (retention). The points are then multiplied times 1000. Eligibility and retention are the two factors that NCAA research has shown leads to graduation. An APR of 925 projects to a Graduation Rate of 60%.

Teams that score below 925 and have a student leave school academically ineligible can lose up to 10% of their scholarships - immediate penalties assessed the next year. Or teams can lose scholarships due to historical poor academic performance over time.
Anything under 900 is awful.

Kansas's APRs - 919 ('07), 918 - ('06), 899 ('05)-- three years below 925.

However, here are Alabama's APRs - 869 ('07), 906 ('06), 886 ('05). Alabama got a "size exemption" this year, but could be in trouble next year. Maybe that's why Saban filled up with 32 Letters of Intent this year. But then he only has 85 scholarships to give.

How Notre Dame athletic teams did:
Irish Athletic Programs Again Lead The Way In NCAA's Four-Year APR Numbers :: All 26 programs at Notre Dame again exceed Academic Progress Rate formula.
 

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In the Football Bowl Subdivision, institutions with the top figures in football included Stanford (986), the U.S. Naval Academy (979), Duke and Rutgers (977 each), the U.S. Air Force Academy (976), Rice (975), Boston College (972), along with Notre Dame, Northwestern and Miami, Fla. (all at 969).

Damn, I didn't know the Miami had that many football students that graduated w/ their basket-weaving degree!
 

ACamp1900

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This is still completely fuckng retarded... so basically the school's that DON'T send their players to the local JC's to take basic math and then transfer it back as College Algebra because they actually want their kids to do it right fail or no fail get hammered... while those that do get a nice little 900+ rating....
 
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this is all terrible , they really need to start getting there shit together
 
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