the 3-4

[Dannyboy Ayers]

do you guys think that a three four would and could be effective against PSU. I think that we have the personal for it and it could be something to throw them for a loop. also another way to get pressure on their QB

 

[kickerbg31]

do you guys think that a three four would and could be effective against PSU. I think that we have the personal for it and it could be something to throw them for a loop. also another way to get pressure on their QB

I don't think we have the personnel for it...Mitchell Thomas and Vernaglia certainly didn't impress against GT.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Let's see the 4-2-5 with TT and Crum at linebacker and Wooden, Richardson (or Walls/ Lambert), Zibby, Ndukwe, and Bruton.

 

[Dannyboy Ayers]

I like the nickle but i think that with Mo Richardson and Toryan, Crum, and Thomas you would be able to create more pressure on the qb.

 

[scooper]

do you guys think that a three four would and could be effective against PSU. I think that we have the personal for it and it could be something to throw them for a loop. also another way to get pressure on their QB

Right now, the linebackers are the biggest hole in the team. (FG kicking aside) Why put one more on the field?

 

[jiggafini19]

The defense was geared toward stopping the run and doubling up on Calvin Johnson.

They played quite a bit of nickel against GT and I expect more of the same for PSU.

 

[isotopes]

I would kind of like to see a 3-3-5 against penn state

 

[Dannyboy Ayers]

i was think about it more for creating more pressure on the QB based on the lack of pressure from the front four

 

[solo]

Don't you need 4 good LB's to run the 3-4? If so, that's not us...LB is a weak spot for us this season.

 

[IRISHMAN]

i'd really like to see ND ge morrice richardson on the field a lot more and putting him at OLB in a 3-4 could be a good way to do that.

 

[Dannyboy Ayers]

Don't you need 4 good LB's to run the 3-4? If so, that's not us...LB is a weak spot for us this season.

you need athletic LBs that can play line or outside they don't have to be great but the confussion comes from not knowing where the rush is coming from it also can create blocking issues for the O line on the run

 

[Indydomer]

To play the 3-4 you have to have two solid outside linebackers, that can not only play the run but drop in a zone, cover a tight end and make tackles. Right now we don't have one of those. Out of all the ideas other than staying on the same path I like the 4-2-5. But I believe Weis will crank up the pressure this weak against a statue for a qb. Ball could beat us with his legs this kid can't.

 

[solo]

i'd really like to see ND ge morrice richardson on the field a lot more and putting him at OLB in a 3-4 could be a good way to do that.

No disrespect intended, but if he can't beat out the guys we have starting at LB, he isn't ready to see the field. I think a 3-4 would simply take a problem spot of ours and make it worse.

 

[BGIF]

do you guys think that a three four would and could be effective against PSU. I think that we have the personal for it and it could be something to throw them for a loop. also another way to get pressure on their QB

No, we don't have the right material for the 3 DLs or the 4 LBs. Weis explained the 3-4 and this team in interviews during preseason camp when reporters questioned the Travis Thomas move to LB. scooper and several others correctly noted if we don't have 3 LBs now, where do we find a fourth. I'll add to that where's the dominant NG? Who's Zorich?

If you remove Talley or Fromme to insert Richardson 3 yards deep, you just gave the PSU OLine a little more time to react to the rush. They may not know where it's coming from but I'd bet the ranch they're not figuring on Crum (the only serviceable LB in the middle) or Vernaglia or whoever is in that slot. Meanwhile we made it easier for their DLine to handle Laws, Landri, and Abiamiri, didn't we?

Until the LB unit becomes stronger, I favor the 4-2-5 with some situational 4-3. The DBs are deep and can be rotated. We can't rotate LBs. Zibby's a LB at heart. He's quick. He's as good at run support, better than the LBs sitting on the bench. Run the 4-2-5 and mix safety and corner blitzes along with sending Travis Thomas. Beat'em with fresh legs and speed.

 

[scooper]

No, we don't have the right material for the 3 DLs or the 4 LBs. Weis explained the 3-4 and this team in interviews during preseason camp when reporters questioned the Travis Thomas move to LB. scooper and several others correctly noted if we don't have 3 LBs now, where do we find a fourth. I'll add to that where's the dominant NG? Who's Zorich?

If you remove Talley or Fromme to insert Richardson 3 yards deep, you just gave the PSU OLine a little more time to react to the rush. They may not know where it's coming from but I'd bet the ranch they're not figuring on Crum (the only serviceable LB in the middle) or Vernaglia or whoever is in that slot. Meanwhile we made it easier for their DLine to handle Laws, Landri, and Abiamiri, didn't we?

Until the LB unit becomes stronger, I favor the 4-2-5 with some situational 4-3. The DBs are deep and can be rotated. We can't rotate LBs. Zibby's a LB at heart. He's quick. He's as good at run support, better than the LBs sitting on the bench. Run the 4-2-5 and mix safety and corner blitzes along with sending Travis Thomas. Beat'em with fresh legs and speed.

I'll also add that our ends aren't stout enough to be 3-4 DE's nor athletic enough to stand up as 3-4 OLB's. The exception would be Richardson, who looks like he could be either. But that's only one and he's only a freshman and playing full time OLB would be tougher than a situational rush end. You have to recruit your team into the 3-4 over time. It's not as easy as throwing another LB on the field.

Landri might make a decent 3-4 DE. Laws, is a prototypical 4-3 DT. We don't have that NG, as you pointed out.

 

[isotopes]

Essentially with the personel we have right now a 3-3-5 or a nickle would be our best bet, since we really dont have a strong candidate for the NG position i think nickle is where we'd be stuck, with the recruiting class that is coming in however i feel we might end up with enough athleticism to run a 3-4 with out sacrificing either or run of pass defense

 

[ND Lifer]

We don't have 4 LB's to use in a 3-4. Based on fact, we have 1 LB, Crum, who is playing out of position at MLB. He is basically an OLB. After that, we don't have anybdy. I'm thankful that PSU doesn't have a rushing game. That means PSU will be passing quite a bit, which allows us to replace our LB's with the new freshman in a nickel and/or dime defense.

Where I really see our LB's being exposed is against Michigan's running game. That will be the supreme test for our LB unit. And that scares me to death!!!

I'll try to keep the faith, but it will be difficult. And. besides, I hate Michigan and can't stand it when we lose to them. Maybe we'll have a miracle and Weis will put Toryan Smith at MLB and move Crum back to OLB, then we only have one LB position to worry about.