Red Sox Offseason Thread

[Newc]

Ok...since the Irish season is slightly less than what I had wished for and the numerous fire Wies and the ship is going down threads have driven me into a deep depression I have taken a deeper interest in offseason baseball. Join me if you wish...I have to say its a pretty nice way to avoid the misery that is ND football.

So...

We've got Schill coming back for one year at 8 mil rather than the 13 he had previously stated he wanted. I think its a win win for both sides. Schill can stay in Boston and keep his family here and most likely retire in a Sox uniform and the club gets a proven post-season guy and a good mentor for all our young hurlers coming up and a pretty good deal.

Also, the Marlins have announced that Cabrera is available to be dealt, which could come in handy if Lowell seeks employment elsewhere. Only thing is, Florida is going to request some of our young guns ofcourse....will it be worth it to go after what looks to be Manny Jr.??

 

[Sureal]

YOU DOGGONE RIGHT ABOUT IT!!!

GET HIM!! You know I was going to jump on it. If we don't get Cabrera I will be disappointed big time. Bump AROD!!! GET MIGGY OVER HERE ASAP!!!

 

[Newc]

Pedroia wins ROY! Very much deserved, Congrats Dustin!!

 

[FrankMA]

The young pitchers

The young pitchers

The only problem with trading away the good young pitchers is that you may still have to go after a couple of arms. With Scill and Wakefield, you will have two starters in their forties who already were showing signs of reaching the end of the road.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Sign Lowell.....forget about Cabrera. EOS. We shouldn't be giving up any young pitching with suspect starters in Schilling & Wakefield. Yeah, I know Curt did well in the playoffs but during the season he was pretty up & down. Wakefield had a surprising number of wins but he also had some very rocky outings. If his knuckler isn't working you might as well yank him early in the game. But TF never does.

 

[IrishinTN]

Sign Lowell.....forget about Cabrera.

Agreed! Cabrera is a liability in the field, a terrible clubhouse presence, and 50 pounds overwieght at the age of 23. Not a good move. Just bring back Lowell, who is the opposite of all those things.

 

[Newc]

While I agree about Lowell, he is one of the best guys you can have on your team, the Sox will have to decide whether or not having Lowell for 4 years is worth it. Word is the Sox only want to offer 3, while many teams would be willing to go 4. That is the only way I see Lowell not coming back, other than that, the Sox will do what needs to be done to lock down Lowell for the next 3 years.

Also, I think Manny and Ortiz would really have a positive impact on Miggy. He is in a bad situation with no signs of improvement down there in Florida, I too would be a little on the sour side when I come to the ballpark. There really is a culture in the Red Sox organization that makes guys come together and play like a team.

 

[SoCalDomer]

Not a Sox fan, but thought I'd pop in and say "hey" to you chowda heads. I had Clam Chowda fa lunch. West coast chowda not = to NE chowda though.

I'm a baseball fan, but am glad this season was over. This season just didn't feel like baseball with all the Barry hoopla and other stuff that came up.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'd start a Reds offseason thread, but I'm trying to forget about them.

 

[SoCalDomer]

I'd start a Reds offseason thread, but I'm trying to forget about them.

Plus, you'd be a little late. Wasn't their season done in July? Doh! Zing! grin:

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Damn, I got zinged by a Red Sox fan.

But listen.....you're not allowed to zing your own jokes. It's a man rule, man.

Neg reps!

 

[NDgettysburg]

Agreed! Cabrera is a liability in the field, a terrible clubhouse presence, and 50 pounds overwieght at the age of 23.

yeah, I thought he looked perty hefty for a 3rd baseman....good team chemistry with Lowell....reward him for what he accomplished this year, dammit.

BTW - Heard a baseball guy (Buster Olney maybe) saying he didn't think anyone was gonna offer Lowell 4 years so he expects Boston should be able to resign him.

 

[ojo_223]

Lowell is tailor made for Fenway, you gotta keep him. I just don't think that Boston should trade for Cabrera, I'd Rather see them trade for Johan Santana, but I was a pitcher and still think that good pitching and defense wins championships. You would probably have to give up too much to get either one, though. It is good to see the guys like Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Bucholz coming up through the system, haven't seen that in a while.

 

[Newc]

Lowell does fit Fenway very well, you are right. And his glove there at third base is incredible, especially given that a ball getting by third base there can cause a lot of trouble bouncing around with those walls there...and Manny. And I agree that pitching is more important that having big hitters on your ball club. There is going to be several times throughout the season that your pitchers are going to have to outright win games, thats just how baseball works. Thats why I am very happy that the Sox have the young arms in line like they do. With Beckett, Dice-K, Lester, Bucholtz and Masterson, the Sox look prime for many years to come. I would though wouldn't mind trading one of our younger pitchers, who carry a huge value in the market, for either Santana or Cabrera.

Locking up Schilling gives the Sox another year to develop Masterson in AA and AAA while giving him some valuable call-ups and allows the Sox to use either Lester or Bucholtz as valuable trade bait. With Clement off the payroll, Schilling taking a 5 mill. reduction, as well as his contract being off the table after next year and with Coco most likely being dealt, the Sox can free up some cash to offer some pretty good deals if they do infact bring in another superstar. I wouldn't trade for either Johan or Cabrera if I weren't able to work out an extension of their contract. Its not worth giving up our talent for a one year rental.

 

[Newc]

Also, I'm calling bullshit on Beckett not winning the Cy Young. As many of you know, I have a HUGE man crush on Beckett, but he still was the best pitcher in the bigs this year. I don't care that C.C. pitched 30 or so more innings, Beckett was absolutely dominant all year, as well as the only 20 game winner...I don't get it.

 

[FrankMA]

The main competition for Lowell will be the Yankees who are in the market for a Third Baseman big time after losing A-Rod. They may offer him 4 years and big bucks just to keep him away from the Sox. There was even talk of them signing him to play First Base before A-Rod left.
Beckett should have been the C.Y. winner hands down. He dominated C.C. in the playoffs; however, the decision is made before the playoffs. He should have won anyway.

 

[SoCalDomer]

Also, I'm calling bullshit on Beckett not winning the Cy Young. As many of you know, I have a HUGE man crush on Beckett, but he still was the best pitcher in the bigs this year. I don't care that C.C. pitched 30 or so more innings, Beckett was absolutely dominant all year, as well as the only 20 game winner...I don't get it.

Beckett should also gain from the last memory of his pitching performance in the playoffs. I don't think they count playoff starts for the CY Young, but his further dominane there may stick in the minds of the voters.

 

[Newc]

Yea I don't get how performance in the playoffs doesn't count, but getting your team to the playoffs does. Kinda seems like you are leaving the most important part out.

 

[Newc]

If Lowell leaves for the Yankees I may just break down and cry myself to sleep for the duration of his contract. I can't see another Sox jump ship to go play for the Yanks for a few more dollars.

 

[WalshND]

I have a HUGE man crush on Beckett

Why do I suddenly have the song, The Crying Game, stuck in my head now.

Relax Sox, we all know next year belongs to the Tribe. (I just hope for a great steroid, HGH, ect... free year for all of us MLB fans.)

 

[Newc]

Haha...I was thinking more DiNiro in "The Fan" but that works as well.

 

[Tased]

The Yanks will be getting Cabrera. We need somebody to take Giambi spot in that lineup.
24 year old studs come at a premium and we got top dollar to get him.

 

[SoCalDomer]

The Yanks will be getting Cabrera. We need somebody to take Giambi spot in that lineup.
24 year old studs come at a premium and we got top dollar to get him.

Dodgers, Angels favorites in deal for Cabrera - Rumors - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

He may be heading to the west coast. Neither Boston or Yankees may get him.

 

[mlcspinner]

Lowell has resigned with the Red Soxs for 3yrs
Home - BostonHerald.com

 

[Newc]

SWEET

 

[mlcspinner]

SWEET

yes it is. It would have been awful if he would have gone to that "other " team

 

[Newc]

Dude I don't think I would have been able to handle that again. I don't understand how Sox players can go to the Yanks. I guess when you have a typical 9-5 job the difference between a deal worth 30 mill and one worth 35 mill isn't as big of a deal as it is in the bigs.

My parents feed their family, sent them to quality schools and paid for their share of medical bills making much less than the difference between those two contracts. I just don't understand how sports stars can't do the same....damn gold platted burgers are drinving our sports heros to the poor house, its a real shame.

 

[Sureal]

Dude I don't think I would have been able to handle that again. I don't understand how Sox players can go to the Yanks. I guess when you have a typical 9-5 job the difference between a deal worth 30 mill and one worth 35 mill isn't as big of a deal as it is in the bigs.

My parents feed their family, sent them to quality schools and paid for their share of medical bills making much less than the difference between those two contracts. I just don't understand how sports stars can't do the same....damn gold platted burgers are drinving our sports heros to the poor house, its a real shame.

LOL!!!

I can't even think about baseball yet. I still haven't recovered...

No seriously. Good deal with Lowell. I have to search the minors to see who we have at 3rd for the future. He ain't no spring chicken...

 

[FrankMA]

Lowell's got a couple of good yearas left anyway. I believe he is only 34.
Now lets get Johan Santana to finish off the pitching rotation.

 

[SoCalDomer]

The Bruins need to pick up the pace if Boston is going to hold the championship in the four major sports. Pats are nearly there, the Keltics are well on their way, Sox did their job.

If three is a hat trick, is four the golden sombrero?