my take on unc

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In order to beat nc we need to play mistake free football like we have been playing for the last two games, now that will be tougher to do on the road but nc has shown that if you give them opportunities they can definately capitalize.

So i think if we don't turn the ball over and make there offense work to score points they can't hang with us.

It's really hard to tell if nc is that good or if their opponents werent that good, its probably a combination of both, so i'm gonna call it a close game although there is a potential for us to really score some points.

i'm gonna say 31-24 in favor of the irish.

what do you guys think, i know they have a few playmakers on both sides of the ball but im not too familiar with nc, some insight would be appreciated
 

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UNC looks a little more talented than we do. They seem to have more team speed and I think the Irish lose honestly.

UNC 28
ND 17
 

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i don't really like making predictions, so i never do. bad karma. but i do think it's gonna be a really close game and if notre dame comes out with a win, it's gonna be HUGE. they need to prove that they can win on the road.

i'm so pumped for this game though.
 

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they are a very young very talented team, they were not supposed to gel and be good until next year, however it appears as though they are playing quite well right now. i was scared of this game months ago and still am. even though they are playing with their backup qb they are still playing well beating both miami and uconn in the last 2 weeks. i actually was just beginning to think uconn had a decent team this year so i dont know, but i think they have a pretty strong squad.

it will definitely take mistake free football and tenacity on both sides to win this game. but i sure will be huge at least in my eyes if we win.
 

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I was all fired up for the MSU game and posting bold predictions and I honestly thought ND would beat them. I dont usually think like that so this time I think I will not be as bold with my prediction. But the offense is starting to come together and hopefully can pull the upset special of the week.
 

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If our defense plays the way they did against standford we lose 38-21. If the defense can step up and stop the run we have a chance!!!
 

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true they did beat uconn and miami, but they had a lot of help from them via turnovers, plus greg little is their rb and we're gonna show him why you never turn your back on ND.
 

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true they did beat uconn and miami, but they had a lot of help from them via turnovers, plus greg little is their rb and we're gonna show him why you never turn your back on ND.

we have to stop draughn first
 

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ya know we are really missing that huge 300 pound run stopper in our defense, we need somebody that can take up 2 or 3 linemen, we really could of used omar hunter. are we going after any DT's this year?
 

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ahh yes tyler stockton, 6'1" 290, eat a few cheeseburgers and we should be ready to go
 

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Lord knows that the defense will need to step it up this weekend it was hard to watch the 4th quarter against Stanford. I'll be going up on Friday to play golf at the UNC Finley Golf Course and then at the game on Saturday and will proudly be wearing my blue and gold. My good friend works at the golf course and his wife is a professor at UNC so I can't wait to get there and support the IRISH. I think it will be a close game and if we can have another day without turnovers and continue to play good offense and the defense steps it up...The Irish will prevail...GO IRISH!!!
 

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I will also be at the game. This will be my sixth time getting to see ND play (not counting this years' Spring game). They are 3-2 with me in the stands. The losses came in bowls (Gator 02 and Sugar in 06) I can't wait. I see this one being very close. They are well coached and very fast. Their strength seems to be their receivers. I'm anxious to see how they will do against our secondary. Go Irish!
 

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they also rank 91st in sacks allowed with 11 so far and averaging about 2.2 sacks a game, if we get in this qbs face and shake him up he'll make mistakes that our secondary can cash in on.
 

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here's what we don't need to happen: we do not need charlie & co. to start the game all conservative and let the UNC defense pin their ears back and come after us like we did against MSU. keep the field spread out and continue doing what we're doing. 4 straight 3 and outs won't help our cause.
 

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Clearly Butch Davis and Saban are superior coaches. So unfortunately I have to give the nod to UNC this week. In 2 years they have turned their programs around, and don't give me this crap about us starting young players etc etc, they are too. UNC is on their backup quarterback, and I think the coaching matchup is what will do us in.
 

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I'm not so sure how you can say that they are superior because they turned their programs around in two years. I would say since Charlie took us to a BCS bowl his first year, that would make him the superior of the 3 no???
 

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What I am saying is that they can do more with less talent.
 

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Clearly Butch Davis and Saban are superior coaches. So unfortunately I have to give the nod to UNC this week. In 2 years they have turned their programs around, and don't give me this crap about us starting young players etc etc, they are too. UNC is on their backup quarterback, and I think the coaching matchup is what will do us in.

It's not just about youth, it's about quality youth. You can't ignore the fact that Satan can get any type of athlete, including JC transfers, that he wants. You just can't ignore that fact. Go read the SI article on Alabama a few weeks back. Do you know that 5 (!!!) of their recruits have been kicked out of school and a few are even in prison? That's why our recruiting class went to #1 and 'Bama dropped. And the freshmen that are playing for 'Bama, golly, they are animals. They get after you. They probably can barely read, but they get after you.

You give any quality coach those types of athletes and you're going to see a good team turnaround quickly. ND went 3-9 last year, and this year the team is 4-1 w/ tons of improvement shown (and admittedly, much more to show). That's a pretty quick turnaround. Everyone knew that last year was the year where Ty's lack of recruiting would kill the program (not to that extent though), and so now we are in the midst of a quick turnaround season.

I'm with you, I think UNC has the advantage, but not because of coaching. I think it's because of home field advantage and a defense that has shown major vulnerability against the run, and even against the pass on Lambert's side. We're getting there on both sides of the ball, but we're not there yet. I think CW will get us there though...
 

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i predict we will lose this game - 35-28

2 things lead me to this conclusion:

1) b/c we cannot, apparently, run the ball very well (we are able to pass effectively), it means the time of possession will favor unc, which means our defense will be out on the field longer.

2) our defense looks too damned porous against mediocre teams - defending the run around the edge scares the hell out of me - not to mention that our supposedly vaunted secondary has looked vulnerable thus far as well. so add to this that they will likely be out on the field longer and i think unc is going to put some points on the board against us.

also, a pass-heavy offense seems more likely to either stall or turn-the ball over than a run-oriented offense - and while we have certainly been pretty damned effective thus far (especially since charlie switched out floyd for kamara - probably the best personnel move all season!), the pessimist in me is just waiting for the shoe to drop.

and, of course, the "idiot kicker" (ht to peyton manning) is going to lose ball games for us, probably against a quality opponent...
 

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this is truly a game where we could need 3 fg's to give us an edge. it just has that feel and i simply don't think we'll deliver on that front. i pray we come out aggressive and don't piss away 2-3 series trying to "figure" out the defense like we did against msu, although we're a different offense since then you get my drift.
 

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Every game is winnable!! With NC, we must show that we can run the ball. If we can do that, forget about the defense...we simply outscore them. Coach Davis is a no-nonsense coach who demands that his ass't coaches earn every penny they are paid...or they won't be there long. Any weakness on his teams must be corrected by the position coaches and excuses are not tolerated. Our defense will improve as we recruit more top defensive players....we haven't done well this year thus far..but the game isn't over til the fat lady sings!!
 

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It's not just about youth, it's about quality youth. You can't ignore the fact that Satan can get any type of athlete, including JC transfers, that he wants. You just can't ignore that fact. Go read the SI article on Alabama a few weeks back. Do you know that 5 (!!!) of their recruits have been kicked out of school and a few are even in prison? That's why our recruiting class went to #1 and 'Bama dropped. And the freshmen that are playing for 'Bama, golly, they are animals. They get after you. They probably can barely read, but they get after you.

You give any quality coach those types of athletes and you're going to see a good team turnaround quickly. ND went 3-9 last year, and this year the team is 4-1 w/ tons of improvement shown (and admittedly, much more to show). That's a pretty quick turnaround. Everyone knew that last year was the year where Ty's lack of recruiting would kill the program (not to that extent though), and so now we are in the midst of a quick turnaround season.

I'm with you, I think UNC has the advantage, but not because of coaching. I think it's because of home field advantage and a defense that has shown major vulnerability against the run, and even against the pass on Lambert's side. We're getting there on both sides of the ball, but we're not there yet. I think CW will get us there though...

Dude, I always love your takes. I am always the eternal optimist, as you know, but your comments are always on point.

Great point about the types of players at both schools. Especially about the JC transfer issue. When you are building a program, being able to go out and bring in juco guys with two years of experience and college level weight training is an invaluable resource. One ND has never been able to enjoy. Bringing in juco kids and redshirting your youngsters gives a program a ton of flexibility. I don't even want to touch the admission standards issues and the comparison on the graduation rates and GPA's.

Here is my reasoning for why we win this game. I thought we did not play very well on Saturday. With the exception of Clausen, Floyd, and Kuntz, the team looked a little flat top to bottom and we really went to sleep and let Stanford back into it in the fourth. But here is why we carry that over into a win: I did not see any of the "here we go again" mentality and let down that was so apparent last year. This team is learning how to win. They are learning that if something does not go as planned, you can pull out of it and turn it around. Last year's team would not have held on to win after the opponent scores 14 fourth quarter points.

As you pointed out, we are definitely not there yet. But we are making progress. Every game, I see things get a little better. We have yet to put together a complete game, let alone a complete game from all three facets. But the time is coming where that complete game will happen. Might be Saturday in Chapel Hill, might be some other time this season, or it might not happen until next season. But when it does, it is going to be a sight to see. When all three parts of the team come together at the same time, we are going to roll some people.

Either way, I think we win this weekend. Haven't decided what my score prediction will be, but we will get the "W".

GO IRISH!!!
 

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Clearly Butch Davis and Saban are superior coaches. So unfortunately I have to give the nod to UNC this week. In 2 years they have turned their programs around, and don't give me this crap about us starting young players etc etc, they are too. UNC is on their backup quarterback, and I think the coaching matchup is what will do us in.

phork, in charlies first two years we went back to back bcs bowls, his experienced qb graduated plus all of the other weapons and on top of that lack of recruiting left him with basically nothing, boom bad year, now we're 4-1 and clearly much improved, lets see what saban does after his senior qb graduates this season.

i dont understand these arguments that "these coaches have done more than charlie in thier first 2 years, because charlie took them to two winning seasons and two bcs bowls. i havent seen a first year coach do that since i've been watching college football!
 

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UNC is first in the nation in interceptions this season.

That stat worries me. The last thing we need is for Jimmy to get picked off a bunch and lose all that confidence he's gained with the past few games. I know Jimmy has been on fire his past two games, but he hasn't exactly been mistake-free this year.
 

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ND needs to lock down on UNC's running game. They do posses good speed but certainly can be beaten. Special teams is what won their game against Uconn.
 
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