Mater Dei (CA) Football Team Hazing

[CHIDomer9]

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I have twin teens. When it comes to sports, they aren't the best. They're both small, not exactly athletic and their competitive juices do not flow into sports. In our house we tend to approach youth sports with the objective of facilitating the social aspects of life. They aren't earning athletic scholarships, but if sports can lead to friendships or social opportunities and they can have fun, we'll try it. The only time I've ever gotten overly emotional was about 4 years ago when one of my guys was being bullied to the point of tears by a bigger, stronger kid on his soccer team. The coach did nothing, the other parents did nothing, so after seeing this build up over the course of a few practices, the final event was my last straw. I pulled my kid off the field, (lawn chairs and cooler in tow), made a scene and left immediately. If you haven't experienced it, I don't know how else to describe seeing your kid bullied other than complete helplessness.

With that in mind, I implore you to spend 5 minutes and read this column was yesterday's LA Times by Bill Plaschke. The story/case itself isn't new. There have been articles and other pieces written recently. Read it all and, if you have kids, take a moment to think about them each and every time you read a quote from the father of Player One.

Usually when sharing something to read with friends or family I give the simple suggestive order of "Enjoy." You won't enjoy this. But it is worth reading.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/highs...8UvEyddd5FNGe4

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Yikes.

 

[ACamp1900]

Mater Dei beat the living shit out of us in basketball at the Anaheim pond my sophomore year,… it was like our best team ever vs just another year for them lol what the hell we were doing even playing them I have no idea

 

[317Irish]

Thanks for sharing Chi. Tough read for sure, but it’s an eye opener especially for anybody with kids. At each stage of our kids’ lives we have to let go a little more and more. You don’t want to, but you know it’s the right thing to do. This type of story is exhibit A on what makes it so difficult.
On a side note- I’ve long been a fan of of Bill Plaschke. Glad that he covers some of the stories he does.

 

[BrownerandFry]

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I have twin teens. When it comes to sports, they aren't the best. They're both small, not exactly athletic and their competitive juices do not flow into sports. In our house we tend to approach youth sports with the objective of facilitating the social aspects of life. They aren't earning athletic scholarships, but if sports can lead to friendships or social opportunities and they can have fun, we'll try it. The only time I've ever gotten overly emotional was about 4 years ago when one of my guys was being bullied to the point of tears by a bigger, stronger kid on his soccer team. The coach did nothing, the other parents did nothing, so after seeing this build up over the course of a few practices, the final event was my last straw. I pulled my kid off the field, (lawn chairs and cooler in tow), made a scene and left immediately. If you haven't experienced it, I don't know how else to describe seeing your kid bullied other than complete helplessness.

With that in mind, I implore you to spend 5 minutes and read this column was yesterday's LA Times by Bill Plaschke. The story/case itself isn't new. There have been articles and other pieces written recently. Read it all and, if you have kids, take a moment to think about them each and every time you read a quote from the father of Player One.

Usually when sharing something to read with friends or family I give the simple suggestive order of "Enjoy." You won't enjoy this. But it is worth reading.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/highs...8UvEyddd5FNGe4

Thanks for being a conscientious dad and posting this bruce rollinson literally has blood
all over his hands. The diocese should giveMater Dei an all sports death penalty for a decade.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I can’t imagine, if that had happened to my family, not fucking up Player 2 or his father. Brain damage? Yep, I think I’d fuck that kid up, consequences be damned.

 

[Trait Expectations]

I hope this gets picked up and they drop a bomb on every person associated (if this allegations are true, which they certainly sound credible).

 

[Irishnuke]

The OC DA’s office is notoriously shady. Doesn’t surprise me in the least bit that they didn’t file charges. I doubt anything happens to MD either. They’re too big of a money maker. In reality heads should roll for this. Coaches, AD, and their principal/dean should all be shitcanned.

 

[yankeehater]

I was recruited for hoops by Mater Dei out of junior high, but turned them down so no sympathizer. I know people with kids currently involved in the program. What they told their father was the smaller kid challenged the larger Samoan kid (50 pounds heavier) to the punching game and instead of hitting the kid in the stomach he smacked him in the face. In response, the larger kid kicked the crap out him. I was also told the kid transferred to Irvine High and played football the next season. If that is the case, then obviously he does not have a brain injury. No one provided names of the kids to me so cannot verify if the kid did indeed play at Irvine.

Not condoning anything or saying the game should have ever been allowed to occur on campus. Mater Dei is the high school version of USC here in So Cal. You either went to the school or despise the school. Everyone not involved with Mater Dei want Rollinson fired and the program disbanded and people who side with Mater Dei say it is a nothing burger and just sour grapes from a family whose kid could not cut it at the school.

Just trying to shed a little light on the situation. We will see where this all goes.

 

[nsisk157]

I was recruited for hoops by Mater Dei out of junior high, but turned them down so no sympathizer. I know people with kids currently involved in the program. What they told their father was the smaller kid challenged the larger Samoan kid (50 pounds heavier) to the punching game and instead of hitting the kid in the stomach he smacked him in the face. In response, the larger kid kicked the crap out him. I was also told the kid transferred to Irvine High and played football the next season. If that is the case, then obviously he does not have a brain injury. No one provided names of the kids to me so cannot verify if the kid did indeed play at Irvine.

Not condoning anything or saying the game should have ever been allowed to occur on campus. Mater Dei is the high school version of USC here in So Cal. You either went to the school or despise the school. Everyone not involved with Mater Dei want Rollinson fired and the program disbanded and people who side with Mater Dei say it is a nothing burger and just sour grapes from a family whose kid could not cut it at the school.

Just trying to shed a little light on the situation. We will see where this all goes.

This is the approach that should be taken. Often today, it isn't. If true, burn it down. If not, will Bill write an equally glowing report about MD?

 

[Irish#1]

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[Me2SouthBend]

Can't read without subscribing.

I’ve heard Hooked on Phonics is a pretty good way to learn. Might be worth a shot. .

 

[BrownerandFry]

https://newsantaana.com/the-ocda-sa...hazing-incident-at-mater-dei-was-not-a-crime/

hat does not make it acceptable. But it is not a crime.

At no time did one of the players in the fight tell the other player to stop, even when the punches became head shots and attempted head shots. When another player said stop, both players stopped throwing punches.

Two boys on the Mater Dei football team engaged in behavior that betrays the values of youth sports. CIF, the governing body of high school sports in California, has the motto “Dedicated to developing student-athletes of character.”

What happened in the Mater Dei locker room on February 4, 2021 is nothing anyone should be proud of and it falls short of the kind of character any of us should wish for our children.

This incident has been thoroughly investigated by law enforcement and reviewed blow by blow by the most experienced prosecutors in my office to see if we could prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

We cannot.

Schools must remain safe places for our children to thrive and learn – and to develop the character that we want to see in all of our children. Watching two children trade blow for blow in a locker room environment should be unsettling for everyone. It was for me.

And as the elected District Attorney of Orange County, I have and will continue to protect our children from harm. The safety of our children is all of our responsibility.
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The larger question here is framed in the litigation

Is the hazing a regular practice?

What did Rollinson know and when did he know it.

As far as that "I talked to a few parents of players."

Well that ain't evidence

Right now the only thing we're sure of is that the alleged perp is as innocent as Orenthel James Simpson.

It would appear that Bruce Rollinson may not have heard of the last of this.

 

[GowerND11]

We had a horrible hazing incident occur at a local high school this fall on the football team. Involves a banana, knocking a kid out, videoing it, and sexual assault. Cost the team a playoff berth. At least two perpetrators have been expelled, and I'm sure it's only just starting.

https://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc...0211117-dh5okcrmqff35fneauga5sgdbu-story.html

https://www.wnep.com/article/news/l...ball/523-e2bb4c91-64ba-41ed-8aed-f223d7854132