SpeedsterX
A Cool Cat To Many!
- Messages
- 62
- Reaction score
- 22
I know we are all pissed. I, for one, was absolutely fuming after this loss. I was almost getting excited about all the talk about a replacement for head coach. I chose not to post a thread for a day or so so I could try and get some objective thinking about the whole situation. Here's basically what I think and believe.
In 2004, CW came in with a bad football team left by TW. Some fairly talented players but playing bad football. Such is TW the coach. CW started basically from scratch. Brady Quinns class was in it's second year. CW took those players and yes, DEVELOPED them for an off season.
Then came 2005. We were happy again. Beating teams we thought we'd lose to. Beating USC (don't get me started, I say we won that game! But I digress). That was Brady's (and class) 3rd year. Hope bounded! Heisman trophy, NC run for 2006 etc.. 2006 regressed a bit but we still made a BCS bowl (which, BTW, we shouldn't have been in).
Then the slate was wiped clean. Literally clean at almost all skill positions. (I know, I know, I am not telling you anything you don't know already) Well, maybe needing reminded of. Anyway,,,,
2007, practically brand new team, just like CW had in 2004! Players inexperienced and young at all key and skill positions. A deep team divide evidenced by the play, talk and attitude of Sully, BIG mistake at the beginning by CW (I'll admit freely), injuries etc.. A freaking train wreck!! 3-9! 3-9! Disastrous!! Yet CW held on to the Number 1 recruiting class in the whole freakin' Country!! Incredible.
Let's move on.
2008. Experts said 6-6/7-5. I said openly on this exact board, 8-4. We played 2 lousy games and truly competitive in the rest. Yes, we've given up 3 second half leads. No killer instinct. Didn't stay on the throttle. Well, looks like the experts were right. Not that we should have lost to the teams that we lost to but they were right none the less. (Almost) end of 2008, we doubled our win total from last year. Didn't look near as incompetent as last year. And we're going to a Bowl game that we could possibly win. Look at the numbers, the stats. We are identical to 2004 in 2008, Brady's class 2nd year, Jimmy's class 2nd year. Marked improvement from 2007.
Hey! I'm not saying that CW will take us back to the elites but if you take history as evidence of probability, we should improve in Jimmy's class 3rd year as we improved Brady's class 3rd year. THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY I, FOR ONE, AM STAYING ON THE CHARLIE WEIS BANDWAGON FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE SEASON! Yes, losing sucks! Losing to 'Cuse SUCKS! But, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, step back and see the forest instead of the individual trees.
Brady Quinns class:
Season1, bad
Season2, bad
Season3, BCS bowl
Jimmy's class:
Season1, bad
Season2, BOWL
Should we expect a BCS bowl in his season 3? I do! Next year 9-3? Hell yea I'd be happy with that!! And don't say, "well we better, our schedule is much easier" because as we witnessed this year, Notre Dame can schedule Penn High School and they will come out against Notre Dame with superhuman effort as every other team does that plays us. (And don't say that they don't just because we are down! 'Cuse's head coach just said it. He said beating Notre Dame IS special!) Doesn't it seem funny that we played the good teams on our schedule this year better than we played the bad ones? Of course we played Michigan hard because we didn't know just how crappy they were going to be so we played them as the Michigan team we've all come to know and hate, a damned good football team.
Summation, We saw how the team started this year. Hell, I was as caught up in it as everyone else. We thought Jimmy's class 2nd year was shaping up to be Brady's class 3rd year. Guess what?! Other than a few bad calls, just a few that didn't go "our" way, it almost was!! I don't want to hear how 'Cuse's true freshman ran against us or Pryor's getting it done as a freshman! Make ALL their skill players freshmen and sophomores and see how'd they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause, Yes ND Fans, we still have a good head coach. It takes time and I will say,
2009, time is up! BCS or bust. It's logical and natural.
This is what I believe and no, "Did you see that terrible call", "He just can't develop players", "He doesn't fire the team up" etc. etc. etc. is going to change my mind.
Notre Dame was built on faith. Time to man-up and show alittle!
HOLY MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, GO IRISH!
In 2004, CW came in with a bad football team left by TW. Some fairly talented players but playing bad football. Such is TW the coach. CW started basically from scratch. Brady Quinns class was in it's second year. CW took those players and yes, DEVELOPED them for an off season.
Then came 2005. We were happy again. Beating teams we thought we'd lose to. Beating USC (don't get me started, I say we won that game! But I digress). That was Brady's (and class) 3rd year. Hope bounded! Heisman trophy, NC run for 2006 etc.. 2006 regressed a bit but we still made a BCS bowl (which, BTW, we shouldn't have been in).
Then the slate was wiped clean. Literally clean at almost all skill positions. (I know, I know, I am not telling you anything you don't know already) Well, maybe needing reminded of. Anyway,,,,
2007, practically brand new team, just like CW had in 2004! Players inexperienced and young at all key and skill positions. A deep team divide evidenced by the play, talk and attitude of Sully, BIG mistake at the beginning by CW (I'll admit freely), injuries etc.. A freaking train wreck!! 3-9! 3-9! Disastrous!! Yet CW held on to the Number 1 recruiting class in the whole freakin' Country!! Incredible.
Let's move on.
2008. Experts said 6-6/7-5. I said openly on this exact board, 8-4. We played 2 lousy games and truly competitive in the rest. Yes, we've given up 3 second half leads. No killer instinct. Didn't stay on the throttle. Well, looks like the experts were right. Not that we should have lost to the teams that we lost to but they were right none the less. (Almost) end of 2008, we doubled our win total from last year. Didn't look near as incompetent as last year. And we're going to a Bowl game that we could possibly win. Look at the numbers, the stats. We are identical to 2004 in 2008, Brady's class 2nd year, Jimmy's class 2nd year. Marked improvement from 2007.
Hey! I'm not saying that CW will take us back to the elites but if you take history as evidence of probability, we should improve in Jimmy's class 3rd year as we improved Brady's class 3rd year. THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY I, FOR ONE, AM STAYING ON THE CHARLIE WEIS BANDWAGON FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE SEASON! Yes, losing sucks! Losing to 'Cuse SUCKS! But, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, step back and see the forest instead of the individual trees.
Brady Quinns class:
Season1, bad
Season2, bad
Season3, BCS bowl
Jimmy's class:
Season1, bad
Season2, BOWL
Should we expect a BCS bowl in his season 3? I do! Next year 9-3? Hell yea I'd be happy with that!! And don't say, "well we better, our schedule is much easier" because as we witnessed this year, Notre Dame can schedule Penn High School and they will come out against Notre Dame with superhuman effort as every other team does that plays us. (And don't say that they don't just because we are down! 'Cuse's head coach just said it. He said beating Notre Dame IS special!) Doesn't it seem funny that we played the good teams on our schedule this year better than we played the bad ones? Of course we played Michigan hard because we didn't know just how crappy they were going to be so we played them as the Michigan team we've all come to know and hate, a damned good football team.
Summation, We saw how the team started this year. Hell, I was as caught up in it as everyone else. We thought Jimmy's class 2nd year was shaping up to be Brady's class 3rd year. Guess what?! Other than a few bad calls, just a few that didn't go "our" way, it almost was!! I don't want to hear how 'Cuse's true freshman ran against us or Pryor's getting it done as a freshman! Make ALL their skill players freshmen and sophomores and see how'd they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause, Yes ND Fans, we still have a good head coach. It takes time and I will say,
2009, time is up! BCS or bust. It's logical and natural.
This is what I believe and no, "Did you see that terrible call", "He just can't develop players", "He doesn't fire the team up" etc. etc. etc. is going to change my mind.
Notre Dame was built on faith. Time to man-up and show alittle!
HOLY MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, GO IRISH!
