Golson Second string?!?

[kmoose]

I see what you're saying. He'll have to improve on his game from last year though. Threw too many picks and locked on to Floyd too much. Also needs to have a higher completion %. There's a lot of good things about him though too.

True Freshman QBs always throw a high number of INTs.

 

[enrico514]

What about Hendrix is this debate... at least in the red zone ?

 

[irish1958]

True Freshman QBs always throw a high number of INTs.

Apparently, 2nd and 4th year QB do also.

 

[kmoose]

Apparently, 2nd and 4th year QB do also.

You can only lay the one INT on Rees. The other one was all on TJ Jones.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

What about Hendrix is this debate... at least in the red zone ?

^this

 

[koonja]

Great, we're already juggling between 2 QBs, why not throw in a 3rd and have the most dramatic season in college football? Not.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

There is no such thing as a "winner". Rees is a "winner" because he played a Miami team that didn't show up, Army, a Utah team reeling from a blowout the week before, and USC when the defense thought it was 1988 again. Rees had the luxury of the largest margin of error for any ND QB since Holtz was head coach. The defense at the end of last year was ridiculously good. Rees was garbage against USC. "Winners" don't exist in football.

 

[pkt77242]

A hell of a QB and he isn't even our starter (yet)? Don't kid yourself, neither one of our QBs are a 'hell of a QB'. Rees may get the start, still doesn't mean he's great. Oh, and in his 4-0 record as a starter, he had 10 interceptions. I don't know any 'hell of a QBs' that average over 2 interceptions per game.

He does not have 10 interceptions in his 4 starts. He has 10 interceptions in his career (which really includes 1 at Michigan, a 3 vs Tulsa and 2 vs USF) so that leaves 4 in his 4 starts (3 vs USC, 1 vs Army, 0 vs Utah, and 0 vs Miami. So to be fair he avg 1 per start.

 

[BurningRiver]

If this is true there are two conclusions I can draw from this:

1. Dayne Crist may have taken his last snaps at Notre Dame. If BK isn't willing to put him back in if Rees was hurt and instead is going to throw a freshman to the wolves to make the point, I can't see Crist starting again this year even if Rees collapses or gets hurt. And that doesn't bode well for his 5th year application either.

2. Where the hell is Hendrix in all of this? I would think Hendrix would be a better option at this point, not based on potential but just on the fact that he's had another year to prepare

 

[Irishpinoy]

Golson is the future QB of this team. He knows the spread offense and he can run. I feel that with this offense we're trying to put a square peg into a hole with Crist and Rees as the QBs. Play him now like we did with Jimmy Clausen. He might struggle at first but he'll be good next year.

 

[koonja]

Notre Dame football: Coach Brian Kelly won't announce starting quarterback until Monday - chicagotribune.com

 

[NDIrishlover3]

Golson is the future QB of this team. He knows the spread offense and he can run. I feel that with this offense we're trying to put a square peg into a hole with Crist and Rees as the QBs. Play him now like we did with Jimmy Clausen. He might struggle at first but he'll be good next year.

You realize Rees ran a spread in high school as well so therefore he knows the offense too and I actually think that's one of the main reason he has done so well at notre dame. However, you are definetly right about running ability of golson over rees... HOWEVER Rees does have good mobility in the pocket which can still work well in the spread offense

 

[Ignats]

I really don't understand why Hendrix has been held back so much, if this report is true. He got ample time in the Blue and Gold, the coaches have said quite a bit about him already, but yet it's apparently Golson reaching for his helmet. I wonder if they are they are looking at utilizing him in the red zone but didn't want to tip their hand for the Michigan game. If not, I don't see how he will stick around in South Bend.

 

[Irishpinoy]

You realize Rees ran a spread in high school as well so therefore he knows the offense too and I actually think that's one of the main reason he has done so well at notre dame. However, you are definetly right about running ability of golson over rees... HOWEVER Rees does have good mobility in the pocket which can still work well in the spread offense

You're right that Rees ran the spread too. I like Rees and I really admire what he's done for the team but how much upside does he have? Not sure how much better he can get. From what I've seen in the tapes is that Golson has a stronger arm and he's fast. We don't know how good he is. I'd like to find out soon.

 

[pkt77242]

You're right that Rees ran the spread too. I like Rees and I really admire what he's done for the team but how much upside does he have? Not sure how much better he can get. From what I've seen in the tapes is that Golson has a stronger arm and he's fast. We don't know how good he is. I'd like to find out soon.

No thanks. If Golson becomes our starter, than that means that our season has gone down the toilet.

 

[Riddickulous]

Golson is the future QB of this team. He knows the spread offense and he can run. I feel that with this offense we're trying to put a square peg into a hole with Crist and Rees as the QBs. Play him now like we did with Jimmy Clausen. He might struggle at first but he'll be good next year.

Let's panic after one game, replacing the quarterback who threw for 296 yards while completing 71% of his passes for an untested, physically and mentally unprepared freshman quarterback, and throw the season down a well.

I'll take the kid who completes 70+ percent of his throws.

You're right that Rees ran the spread too. I like Rees and I really admire what he's done for the team but how much upside does he have? Not sure how much better he can get. From what I've seen in the tapes is that Golson has a stronger arm and he's fast. We don't know how good he is. I'd like to find out soon.

He's also a true freshman with no game experience. Playing him now would be like admitting defeat.

No thanks. If Golson becomes our starter, than that means that our season has gone down the toilet.

This here.

 

[NDPhilly]

I think it will be a Rees vs Golson battle for the starting spot in 2012 with the edge going to Rees

 

[IrishTimer]

No thanks. If Golson becomes our starter, than that means that our season has gone down the toilet.

 

[D-BOE34]

We need not to forget that Crist 1.) Has another season left after this, 2.) is athletically better fit (minus the accuracy in physically BTW) and 3.) has a chance to redeem himself if Rees gets hurt or blows like Crist did.

I think BK will better prepare Golsen and Hendrix because they will all 4 be called upon if and when we fail to move the ball. I personally think its become a, who can move the ball this week during game time, type situation. Which sucks but if we run through a couple QB's right off the bat in a game and move the ball.... by all means. JUST WIN! The defense has shown, so far that is, they will give us a little bit of time to get in the "zone" on offense. With our schedule though, we will still be very short on time.

 

[IrishTimer]

Five things we learned: Notre Dame vs. South Florida | Inside the Irish

When Rees lay dazed on the ground after a roughing the passer call, it was freshman Everett Golson running for his helmet, not Crist

For the OP who mentioned seeing this report.

 

[Black Irish]

I'll express the same thought I put in another thread about Tommy Rees. Sure, maybe he has peaked and maybe he's been lucky in the games he's played in. And maybe Hendrix and/or Golson will come in and blow him out of the water. But, Rees has results, not perfect, but pretty good for a true freshman. Now, on paper, Rees may come in dead last among the 4 ND QBs as far as athletic ability is concerned. But someone mentioned before that Rees seems to have "it." He has a whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts feel about him, similar to a Joe Montana. On paper, Montana didn't stack up great: not physically impressive, didn't have a big arm, not a lightning fast runner, etc. But Joe Montana became one of the best pro QBs ever while more gifted players were just decent as pro QBs. I'm willing to give Rees some more time to see how good he can be before we trip all over ourselves to put the crown on Golson or Hendrix.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I'll express the same thought I put in another thread about Tommy Rees. Sure, maybe he has peaked and maybe he's been lucky in the games he's played in. And maybe Hendrix and/or Golson will come in and blow him out of the water. But, Rees has results, not perfect, but pretty good for a true freshman. Now, on paper, Rees may come in dead last among the 4 ND QBs as far as athletic ability is concerned. But someone mentioned before that Rees seems to have "it." He has a whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts feel about him, similar to a Joe Montana. On paper, Montana didn't stack up great: not physically impressive, didn't have a big arm, not a lightning fast runner, etc. But Joe Montana became one of the best pro QBs ever while more gifted players were just decent as pro QBs. I'm willing to give Rees some more time to see how good he can be before we trip all over ourselves to put the crown on Golson or Hendrix.

How's tommy been lucky? He's produced results every time the takes the field... Just saying.

 

[Sureal]

^ this

 

[Murphy921]

Why is everyone so high on Golson? The kid has talent, but he is a FRESHMAN. Hendrix has a year in the program already and, from what I saw at the Blue-Gold Game, the same qualities if not better. He can run the ball too! He can make the throws. And most importantly, he KNOWS the offense. If your going to put in a scrambler qb, its got to be Hendrix. Redshirt Golson and give him a year to learn.

 

[irishff1014]

Tommy threads the needle all the time. I just don't understand how all the talent that Crist is supposed to have and just can't be very good that we need him to be. So he was over ranked coming out of high school.

 

[pani_nasz]

It's been said before, but what Tommy has that Dayne doesn't is poise. Mobility, arm strength, physicality and even knowledge of the playbook are all great assets, but if the pitter patter of little feet are making you nervous, it's next guy in.

 

[DuffHouse12]

Crist supporters are delusional at this point. WHAT games are you watching? he's awful. absolutely awful. just because he's bigger, faster, stronger doesn't mean he's a better quaterback.

compare Rees and Crist in football games. not in pictures of them without their shirts on, or videos of them throwing in practice with no contact - in football games. Notre Dame has a losing record with Crist starting, and un-defeated with Rees. Rees outscored USF 20-7. Crist was outscored 16-0.

i can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could possibly think Crist will ever play another football game again.

1. Rees
2. Golson
3. Hendrix

Crist didn't even try to be a leader on the sidelines after he was yanked out. he just stood there like a baby.

 

[EifertPower]

Golson

Golson

I don't understand why we would waste Golson's eligibility this year? From what I hear is he could be really special and I think it's clear that he's not going to be our starting QB this year and I think--despite what anyone thinks--Crist or Rees as a backup is a pretty good backup to have. Plus the fact if we don't redshirt him this year then he's in the same eligibility as Hendrix. Personally, I'd rather save a year on Golson.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

IMO:
Crist ship has sailed...sad really.
Rees will start on Sat...cant deny RESULTS.
Second string will be Hendrix...1 more year in the system.
Golson will save this year (red shirt)...yes ND redshirts.

 

[koonja]

IMO:
Crist ship has sailed...sad really.
Rees will start on Sat...cant deny RESULTS.
Second string will be Hendrix...1 more year in the system.
Golson will save this year (red shirt)...yes ND redshirts.

If BK is deciding between Crist and Rees for the start, and Rees wins as you predict, why does Hendrix move ahead of Crist for the 2 spot?