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Tate does it again in a loss to Father Ryan (28-21). Tate has scored all seven of JPII (1-1)touchdowns in two games.

Tate scored on a 30-yard run and receptions of 26 and 56 yards. He finished the game with 55 yards rushing, and 5 catchs for 101 yards.

As stated in the link below, Father Ryan (1-0) was able to limited Tate's effectiveness late in the second half. He had two catches for 4 yards and -13 yards rushing after his final score in the third quarter.

Tate had this to say about the game: “They just played good defense against us,” Tate said. “I guess they just played better than we did tonight. But this game means nothing for our goal of winning a championship.”

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A link to the story: http://preps.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PREPSFACTORY09&pagename=story&rc=y&story_id=12570&game_id=
 
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thanks for the info.

Wasnt Tate's competition in question? He had a great game but they were able to limit him in the second half.

either way I want this guy wearing Blue and Gold next year.
 
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JPII 28 Goodpasture 35 - Business as Usual

Golden Tate scores all 4 TD's in tough lose. He has now scored 12 of JPII's 14 total TDs this season. I attended the game to get a birds eye view of this kid. I now have no doubt that he can physically play at the D-I level. He has a great burst through the hole and finishes off his runs with power. He had TD runs of 73, 39, and 2 yards. His fourth TD came on a fade route, in which, he out jumped the defender. He just missed having a TD pass as well...ball was dropped. He is by far and away the best athlete on the field in any of the games he plays. He appears (or at least well on his way) to be the standard 6-foot 200 pound athlete, who can play a number of positions. One big thing I noticed is that he is no longer an every down defensive player. He now only plays defense in "important" situations...i.e. red zone and late in close games.

Probably the biggest thing I noticed is that he reminded me alot of a video game we all know and love...NCAA Football 2007. He is the definition of a impact player on that game. When Tate is making plays, the rest of the JPII players really feed off that.

Having said this...I think the only way he gets a offer is if others don't commit. The reason being is that he appears to having a growing ego and a baditude. On a fourth and one play, he didn't get the ball and was visibly upset about it (This may or may not be that bad). Every chance he got he took off of his helment...timeouts, walking off the field, whenever. It appeared a little like me, me, me. One example was during a timeout, the rest of his team had their helments on and were huddled...Tate's helment was off and he was on the outside edge of the huddle. He still doesn't work to hard when he is not getting ball...this is something I thought people had really talked to him about. Either they didn't, or he has forgotten...or doesn't care. In my opinion (though it doesn't really mean that much), someone needs to remind him that football is a team sport.

Again, I think he could physcially handle D-I football, but having seen what I saw on this Friday... I'm not sold that he is a Weis kind of guy.

Having talk to him off the field before (at an awards ceremony last year), I think he is a great kid, but I'm concerned at what he is hearing (or not) from others...and what effect it may or may not be having on him.
 
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Tate will not get an Irish offer. He has grade issues and a bad attitude.
 
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Tate attitude issues

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notdam4, where are you getting your info? From what I understand Tate is a good teammate and I don't believe he has even taken his tests yet. I am going to watch his gane tonight against ECS and I personally hope we get this kid.
 
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My money is on ECS shutting him down...they had a good game plan against him last year, and I am glad I finally have someone in my corner...although, i also have to say that the info is new to me. I agree that I don't think he will get a football offer, but I don't know that my reasoning is the same.
 
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notdam4 said:
Tate will not get an Irish offer. He has grade issues and a bad attitude.
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"He has grade issues and a bad attitude" and he crossed Tennessee off his list?

Incredibile, he'd have all the prerequisites for UT if your statement had any validity.

He has not taken THE TEST yet. Do you have additional info on his grades or are you swapping grades for TEST?

Likewise I've seen no mention anywhere of an attitude problem. Is something reported, or something you read. Is there a source?

Some people have expressed strong reservations about the caliber of competition but that's the only knock.
 
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i went to the goodpasture game last week, and as a said in a previous post (see post 4), i think that he can physically play D-I football. He has certain things that I believe will translate to D-I. Things like speed/cutting ability, the ability to find and hit the hole, burst through the hole, and the impact effect. His play really impacts the rest of the teams play.

The competition he plays is not that great...but it isn't as bad as some on this site seem to believe. I can and will list (if needed) several players from the D-II ranks of TN high school football who have played or are playing at the D-I level.

When I was at the game, I got the impression that he has a growing ego and possbily a developing additude issue. I have spoken to him off the field before (at an award ceremony) and he appeared to be a very intelligent and humble young man, though. I believe he was qouted after the game as saying he just wanted to win so bad. So, maybe this is where my preceived developing additude (from him) came from. This may or may not be a real issue. I will assume that it isn't, he was just upset about the score at that given time.

As far as a I have heard, the issue of his grade are that he hasn't taken any test...ACT or SAT...he or his coach report a 3.1 GPA in a Rivals or Scout profile.

Again, I think he can play at the D-I level, and I would love to have him in the Blue and Gold. I'm just not sure it will happen.
 
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irishwavend said:
My money is on ECS shutting him down...
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Well you were almost right...JPII lost 45-29 to ECS and Tate only scored one of his teams four TD's. He had 229 yards (excluding punt and kickoff returns) on 23 touches. He had 19 carries for 170 rushing with a TD. He also chipped in with 4 receptions for 59 yards. He was 0-2 passing. While ECS won the game, I wouldn't exactly call that shutting him down.
 
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luckofirish8 said:
Well you were almost right...JPII lost 45-29 to ECS and Tate only scored one of his teams four TD's. He had 229 yards (excluding punt and kickoff returns) on 23 touches. He had 19 carries for 170 rushing with a TD. He also chipped in with 4 receptions for 59 yards. He was 0-2 passing. While ECS won the game, I wouldn't exactly call that shutting him down.
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I didn't see the game but 9 ypc rushing and 15 ypc receiving, 10 yds/touch) sure doesn't sound like he was shut down. Guess they can claim they shut down his passing.
 
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You have to exclude the Super 7 when you list the studs from the Private School League at elite D-1 schools. Tate is a D-1 talent, just not for a USC or ND. He seems more like Joseph Doss at U of Memphis.

And, apparently ECS had no answer for Tate. Oh well, that's great for the kid. I want to see JPII play against McCallie, Brentwood Academy, CBHS, etc. You know what? If he reads this board, I am going to take all of the credit for motivating him and making him a star at the next level. I AM his motivation...He lives me, breathes me, and dreams me everyday. And when he steps out on that field, he remembers me every time he goes over 100 yds or scores a TD. I AM GOLDEN TATE! (his motivation at least...)

Now, I am going to go behind the shed and shoot myself for that completely pointless ending.
 
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Tate has grade issues other than THE TEST.. I do have a source for this (actually two different sources). Also, I am from Nashville and have seen him play personally and my experience watching him, along with other posts from people who see the same things I see on the sidelines, lead me to believe he has an attitude problem.
 
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Tate has grade issues other than THE TEST.. I do have a source for this (actually two different sources). Also, I am from Nashville and have seen him play personally and my experience watching him, along with other posts from people who see the same things I see on the sidelines, lead me to believe he has an attitude problem.
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"Grade issues" can be either low Core Course GPA or insufficent number of core courses. The NCAA has required 13 core courses for several years but I believe this year they've raised it to 14 courses. ND and a handful of other colleges have required 16 core courses.

Do you know if he's on schedule to take the courses ND Admissions requires?

The additional couple of courses have presented problems to a number of prospects with ND interest that met the NCAA minimums for GPA/Test Score. If a recruit is in contact with ND before his senior year he can modify his schedule to pick up the courses he's short on.

But it doesn't matter if he's got a 4.0 GPA if entering his senior year his only math course was Introduction To The Hand Held Calculator For The Athletically Inclined.
 
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I actually was at the ECS game last week and I'll be honest I was not real impressed. Tate got beat one-on-one on a corner route, although it was a perfectly thrown ball, and only came in as a nickel back on D. He walks around way too much, and does not even stand in the huddle whike the play is called on offense, he satnds just outside of it. He did have a very impressive TD of about 65 yards on a fake punt, but besides that he was pretty bottled up on O. It was only one game, and ECS may have had him schemed up pretty well, but all in all the kid definitely didn't blow my hair back.
 
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My buddy who coaches ball down there and has watched quite a bit of tape on Tate says pretty much the same thing. He says to pay attention to Tate away from the ball or when he is not getting the ball. He doesn't exactly put out effort, hence the reason I say he isn't an ND type of guy. Honestly, the only tape I have seen is the highlight footage, and even then, I have to laugh at the talent he is going against. A player has to play the entire game...not just when he is getting the ball.
 
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irishwavend said:
My buddy who coaches ball down there and has watched quite a bit of tape on Tate says pretty much the same thing. He says to pay attention to Tate away from the ball or when he is not getting the ball. He doesn't exactly put out effort, hence the reason I say he isn't an ND type of guy. Honestly, the only tape I have seen is the highlight footage, and even then, I have to laugh at the talent he is going against. A player has to play the entire game...not just when he is getting the ball.
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this has been an issue with Tate for quite some time, I was under the impression that people close to him had talked with him about that very thing...if they did it doesn't appear to have stuck.

the more i see and hear, the more unsure i am about Tate. I do however believe he is talented enough to play major college football. i'm just not sure if it will be at ND...mainly for the above reason.
 
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Like I said before, he seems like Joseph Doss at U of Memphis. If he comes to ND on a baseball schollie, I wouldn't mind...I just don't think we should be wasting a football schollie for him. He could excel at the mid level programs, I think...Maybe an Ole Miss, Virginia (Well, assuming he has grades), UNC, GTech...Some team along those lines, but I am not so sure elite programs are going to pass on an opportunity to get a guy with a little more up side. He might be an Earl Bennet type player...A little disrespected but has potential to be a star at one of the lesser programs.
 
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irishwavend said:
Like I said before, he seems like Joseph Doss at U of Memphis. If he comes to ND on a baseball schollie, I wouldn't mind...I just don't think we should be wasting a football schollie for him. He could excel at the mid level programs, I think...Maybe an Ole Miss, Virginia (Well, assuming he has grades), UNC, GTech...Some team along those lines, but I am not so sure elite programs are going to pass on an opportunity to get a guy with a little more up side. He might be an Earl Bennet type player...A little disrespected but has potential to be a star at one of the lesser programs.
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Yeah, I remember the Bennet situation. When Weis offered him a scholarship everybody asked "who's he?" I wish he'd have accepted it and come to ND. Our WR corps would have been better for it. Just goes to show....the stars don't always know.
 
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