Economy

[BuaConstrictor]

30 year mortgage rates around 3%

On top of what you explained...it's also untrue!

Source: 30yr mortgage rates in Jan. 2019 were 4.46% (1)

 

[TorontoGold]

On top of what you explained...it's also untrue!

Source: 30yr mortgage rates in Jan. 2019 were 4.46% (1)

I just for once want to hear what the underlying fundamentals and metrics that they're basing their opinions off.

On one hand they can comprehend the issue that having Houthi's attacking trade ships cause, and that the Panama Canal is important for trade. But then, when it comes to much easier to understand items like inflation it's just.....crickets.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

I just for once want to hear what the underlying fundamentals and metrics that they're basing their opinions off.

I don't believe that Facebook memes cover that information.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Literally nothing you just posted is any defense of what Trump is doing right now and how it’s categorically stupid and ineffective in all of its stated goals.

That wasn't the point of your original post, and I'm not defending what he's done with tariffs in the past two months. But he didn't inherit a great economy and life was pretty good in his first term pre Covid.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

That wasn't the point of your original post, and I'm not defending what he's done with tariffs in the past two months. But he didn't inherit a great economy and life was pretty good in his first term pre Covid.

Because he inherited a good economy his first term and his tax plan was still young enough that we hadn't felt the repercussions of it.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

No one lost their job because they refused an experimental therapeutic - Trump literally was the one who championed the release of the vaccine. Now, knuckle draggers can't give him the credit he deserves for this.
Our national debt wasn't at $36 trillion - Debt was lowering under Obama than Trump? GWB had lower debt than Obama? See how this works?
Stock market was at an all time high - It was higher under Biden?
Manufacturing on the rise - Manufacturing rose higher and reached a higher peak under Biden than Trump??
Median wages on the rise - Do you mean real median wages?
Unemployment under 4% - Nice, it hit 3.4% under Biden, which is lower than Trump.
No botched withdrawal from Afghanistan - This relates to the economy....how?
Russia wasn't invading Ukraine - This is categorically false lol.
Didn't see anything close to 8% inflation - This would be really bad if you had a grade school level of understanding economics. Do you understand why inflation was so high, and if so, can you point to why the inflation was Biden's fault?
30 year mortgage rates around 3% - Did you believe that the mortgage rates were going to remain around 3%? What fundamentals did Trump maintain that were screwed up by Biden to make rates jump so much? Do you know who nominated the current head of the Fed?

I swear if Amuse or InsurrectionBarbie did a quick tweet of basic economics people would be so much better off for it lol.

You and I have already had this conversation, and I'm not interested in repeating the same arguments. You can have your positions, I'll have mine.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Sounds like policies in place worked well. Too bad he has done a complete 180 and tanked the economy

If the economy was tanking we'd have double digit unemployment, housing foreclosures, and some sort of "stimulus" enacted by Congress. None of that is happening.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

If the economy was tanking we'd have double digit unemployment, housing foreclosures, and some sort of "stimulus" enacted by Congress

These things take more than 30 days to occur and with the policies implemented were on the road map......oh..and by the way, since you haven't been following, Trump and his team were talking for the last month about having to bail out farmers because of his dipshit policies.

Nice to see you wave the white flag at Toronto though, bitch.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Because he inherited a good economy his first term and his tax plan was still young enough that we hadn't felt the repercussions of it.

In 8 years of Obama, the US saw one year where GDP growth was more than 3%. Not sure how many people would call that a strong economy.

 

[TorontoGold]

You and I have already had this conversation, and I'm not interested in repeating the same arguments. You can have your positions, I'll have mine.

Your positions are not supported by facts.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Because he inherited a good economy

Preach. (1) (2) (3)

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Preach. (1) (2) (3)

And Obama inherited a much worse situation than almost any other president. It's wild than anyone would try to suggest otherwise.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

. It's wild than anyone would try to suggest otherwise.

Well, Polish is a dumbfuck...so it's not that "wild."

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

And Obama inherited a much worse situation than almost any other president. It's wild than anyone would try to suggest otherwise.

The Great Depression was much worse than 2008, and Obama's policies in his first term didn't help much at all.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

These things take more than 30 days to occur and with the policies implemented were on the road map......oh..and by the way, since you haven't been following, Trump and his team were talking for the last month about having to bail out farmers because of his dipshit policies.

Nice to see you wave the white flag at Toronto though, bitch.

No white flag. Toronto and I have debated the Trump economy more than once, and he will attest to that. Rehashing the same stuff repeatedly is not time well spent for me.

Hey IE mods @IrishLax @IrishLion are we ok with this guy's use of idiot, bitch, moron, dumbfuck, etc. for everyone he disagrees with?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

The Great Depression was much worse than 2008, and Obama's policies in his first term didn't help much at all.

Obama inherited a much worse situation than almost any other president

Thanks for agreeing with me and pointing out one of the only situations that was worse

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The Great Depression was much worse than 2008

"almost any other president". Read.

and Obama's policies in his first term didn't help much at all.

Incorrect. (1) (2) (3)

 

[ColoradoIrish]

No white flag. Toronto and I have debated the Trump economy more than once, and he will attest to that. Rehashing the same stuff repeatedly is not time well spent for me.

Hey IE mods @IrishLax @IrishLion are we ok with this guy's use of idiot, bitch, moron, dumbfuck, etc. for everyone he disagrees with?

Now call out the ones that use slurs

 

[BuaConstrictor]

No white flag.

Total white flag.

Rehashing the same stuff repeatedly is not time well spent for me.

Because you come out on the losing end.

Hey IE mods @IrishLax @IrishLion are we ok with this guy's use of idiot, bitch, moron, dumbfuck, etc. for everyone he disagrees with?

I'll follow up and ask if we are ok with others calling me a "retard" et al in the past and referring to Colorado as "mentally disturbed", "tranny", twink, et al. by people like RDU, bishop etc.

The f slut got dropped in a thread two weeks ago.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Now call out the ones that use slurs

He won't.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Total white flag.


Because you come out on the losing end.

I'll follow up and ask if we are ok with others calling me a "retard" et al in the past and referring to Colorado as "mentally disturbed", "tranny", twink, et al. by people like RDU, bishop etc.

The f slut got dropped in a thread two weeks ago.

To be fair I don't think they've said it directed at me, but they still use those slurs

 

[BuaConstrictor]

To be fair I don't think they've said it directed at me, but they still use those slurs

Mentally disturbed was directed at you for sure. Twink was directed at you or...maybe Toronto....tranny...too many search hits to counts.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Mentally disturbed was directed at you for sure. Twink was directed at you or...maybe Toronto....tranny...too many search hits to counts.

It's hard to keep track of them all for sure

 

[TorontoGold]

Now call out the ones that use slurs

There is no "self policing" from that side. The Chaser loves to slur it up, even in the main threads too. RDU/Giddyup have dropped twink/groomer/retard too many times to count. The free speech crowd gets awfully angry when someone from the other side does what they've had for years.

 

[Irishdwarte]

MAGA has nothing but love for people who don’t agree with them. I have never heard a disparaging remark out of them. I’m really surprised that I’m hearing of this tonight. It’s probably the woke mob impersonating MAGA to make them look bad. They truly are the best people.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Now call out the ones that use slurs

It's not my job to police the site, but the Bua garbage is getting old and diminishes the dialogue in these threads and it's a shame.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Total white flag.


Because you come out on the losing end.

I'll follow up and ask if we are ok with others calling me a "retard" et al in the past and referring to Colorado as "mentally disturbed", "tranny", twink, et al. by people like RDU, bishop etc.

The f slut got dropped in a thread two weeks ago.

No white flag, rookie. Toronto knows and he will tell you we've had this convo more than once. And I definitely don't have the free time that some of you keyboard warriors do to spend hours a day on this site.

I'm not a fan of any name calling here because it's juvenile and takes away from the meat of the conversations. The crap you've been pulling in here is the worst I've seen since joining in 2008, and it shouldn't be tolerated.

 

[Irish#1]

To be fair I don't think they've said it directed at me, but they still use those slurs

Using slurs in a statement not directed at a specific person is different than directly calling someone a name.

 

[Irish#1]

It's not my job to police the site, but the Bua garbage is getting old and diminishes the dialogue in these threads and it's a shame.

Put him on ignore.