Defensive Coordinators

[Riddickulous]

Enough talk about Weis. As the board's most bipolar member, I, as usual, have sat back and thought about things. The fact is, our offense is potent enough and talented enough to be considered an elite unit.

The defense is the cause of all of our problems. With a better defense, we would have smoked Michigan and Navy, not to mention all of the other teams we played close this season.

Although our defensive shortcomings can be attributed to inexperience, I don't think it's the case. Players like Harrison Smith, Robert Blanton, and Darrin Walls are actually worse than they were in previous seasons.

Jon Tenuta, who is supposed to be a great defensive coordinator with "30 years of experience" against the option, was destroyed by the Navy running game. Even with what Charlie Weis called a "cutblock-a-thon" in practice, the defense was utterly clueless on every single down.

Their fullbacks, who combined for an unbelievable 11 yards per carry on 19 combined rushes, time and time again went straight up the gut. No adjustments were made.

Every single time on third down, Ricky Dobbs would take the option to the outside. Every single time. No adjustments.

If Weis is kept, major changes need to be made. We need a new defensive coordinator and, more importantly, a new secondary coach.

So, who would be your top candidates for a new defensive coordinator? A new secondary coach?

Discuss.

 

[dylan020]

finally, somebody points to something beside charlie.....i have no idea who we hire, maybe we should go with somebody 1. crazy as fuck, they make better d-coordinators 2. young..kinda helps the fiery

if you need an example or two....see Will Muschamp & Auburns asst. coach Trooper Taylor.......2 guys i would have loved to play for back in the day

 

[Irish.Ca]

What exactly has Tenuta been teaching Corwin? I'm guess whatever it is is bad from our results from Navy. Do they both go? Corwin can recruit but does he get the reins back or are we getting a new guy? Still Co-ordinators?

 

[bert2834]

I was going to post this as well.

In all probability, not one of us knows who a good D-Coordinator would be.

I thought Ty was a good defensive coach.

Davie was a good one.

Weis is a great O-Coordinator, and a just below decent head coach right now. In another year or 2, who knows?

Tenuta needs fired. Look at Iowa's Defense. I was watching their game and the announcer's were surprised every time they blitzed because they seldom do and their defense is pretty good. Blitzes are good sometimes, just not every freaking down.

 

[Riddickulous]

As stated in another thread, Romeo Crennel is a possibility. The man looks like he's going to tear your throat out 98.7% of the time.

He also has ties to Weis.

There's also the possibility of moving Corwin Brown back to defensive coordinator. Our secondary was much better last season. Sure, the run defense was bad, but players like Kapron Lewis-Moore and Ian Williams are really improving and we have Manti Te'o.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Under Corwin, we got run all over. Under Tenuta, we have got killed in the secondary. Both of these guys had to deal with one thing though. They dont have anything in terms of talent in the upper classes. 2 Senior starters, both in the secondary, both of whom are not the most talented players in the nation.

I personally liked Corwins style of calling plays better, but i cannot argue with having either of them. They are proven defensive masterminds elsewhere, but havent got the talent in the upper classes yet here.

Next year, the defense will finally catch the offense in terms of talent. Still no reason to lose to navy, and no reason not to finish strong this year.

 

[SteelerNation]

I'd try and get Chris Zorich into coaching. Bring him in as a DLine coach and go from there. He would bring the mean back to Notre Dame. He'd be defensive coordinator in no time.

 

[Irish.Ca]

I cannot recall the name, but when B.Y. came in as a graduate A this year, who was it that wasn't able to commit to it this year? Not sure how I feel about Romeo either but I don't know his history as a D Co either.

 

[Riddickulous]

I cannot recall the name, but when B.Y. came in as a graduate A this year, who was it that wasn't able to commit to it this year? Not sure how I feel about Romeo either but I don't know his history as a D Co either.

He was the defensive coordinator of the Patriots when they won three Super Bowls in the 2001, 2003, and 2004 seasons. Like Charlie Weis, he was offered a job after the 2004 season, went to the relatively talentless Cleveland Browns as the head coach and lasted four seasons before he was fired (though he did manage a 10-6 season in 2007).

He was also the defensive line coach for the Patriots when they won a Super Bowl in the mid-90's, as well as the New York Giants in the early 90's when they were dominant.

 

[Junkhead]

I personally liked Corwins style of calling plays better, but i cannot argue with having either of them. They are proven defensive masterminds elsewhere, but havent got the talent in the upper classes yet here.

I was all for Tenuta being the answer, but saying he had more talent at GT is a stretch.

 

[BillyIrish]

I find it ironic that Greg Mattison is the defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens. Im not sayin, but I'm just sayin.....


Enough of the BS with the defensive coaching staff. Stop playing two coverage, get after somebody in man, and cause some freaking turnovers!!!


Nick Saban | Smart Football

this is a site that I love to look at. at the top it breaks down Saban's basic principle's on D.

 

[iMANTIusc]

He was the defensive coordinator of the Patriots when they won three Super Bowls in the 2001, 2003, and 2004 seasons. Like Charlie Weis, he was offered a job after the 2004 season, went to the relatively talentless Cleveland Browns as the head coach and lasted four seasons before he was fired (though he did manage a 10-6 season in 2007).

He was also the defensive line coach for the Patriots when they won a Super Bowl in the mid-90's, as well as the New York Giants in the early 90's when they were dominant.

Not to be a stickler, but he never won a Super Bowl in the nineties with the Pats because they lost to the Packers the only time they went in the nineties, but he did win one with the Giants. Overall though, Crennel is a good defensive coordinator who likes to run a 3-4. He runs a very complex 3-4, that although does blitz, relies heavily on the front 3 holding the line, and using linebackers to force receivers to adjust their routes to well placed DBs. Rather than exploiting weaknesses (Tenuta's Defense) Crennel's Defenses usually like to take away the opposing teams strengths, which forces the offense to play outside their comfort zone. Also, he relies on a very complex defensive scheme which might suit Notre Dame players alot more than others.

 

[Rizzophil]

Having Floyd back for his first game, without arguably our best lineman (T Rob), and without our best halfback on offense either...

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

we can all stop talking about crennel now. charlie approached him with the job 2 years ago and he didn't want any part of it. he's also been out of college ball forever.

i doubt it's possible, but I'd love to get Butch Davis in here. The guy is a proven college champion and he has UNC's defense in the top 10. and he hasn't had nearly the amount of talent in recruiting as ND has.

whoever comes in as new DC or God for bid new HC has a full cupboard of talent.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Here is the way I see it playing out assuming Weis is kept as head coach. This is just my armchair amateur opinion.

I think Randy Hart gets the DC position and Bryant Young moves to D line coach after a year of OJT. Hart is extremely popular with the players and the guy has a motor that won't quit. I think that may have been the plan all along when he was brought in and Young was brought on as a grad assistant.

Again, just my opinion.

 

[Domer4ever]

I would guess Crennel would be Weis's first call after the season ends. Two years was a long time ago, it's not out the realm of possability that he could have changed his mind between now and then.

 

[SteelerNation]

Weis wont be around to make that call. And thank God for that, if Crennel was on his list to join the staff.

 

[WaveDomer]

Seriously, we can't tackle and we have problems gaining a yard when we need to. Those are fundamental and toughness issues. Issues any high school level coach should be able to address. Face the truth, we aren't elite on either side of the ball. We have a few tremendous guys who can make plays. That's all. Elite offenses don't give up 2 sacks to end the game agains undersized guys.

I've not wanted to face the facts because I didn't want ND to have to regroup again. But face it, something has never been 100% with these teams. I've never put my finger on it, but now I see, it's fundamentals. ND doesn't have them. And that's coaching folks.

 

[mick2]

charlie strong??