bowl question - did anyone hear....

[AlumniHall98]

....that the players voted NOT to go to a bowl game this year? I heard this and just wanted to see if others had heard the same.

I am not intending to start any rumor, just curious as to what people are hearing about whether or not we go bowling this year.

thanks all!

 

[DKSchrute]

I also heard that. I cant understand why you would vote no?

When these guys are 50 looking back wouldnt you have wanted to say you played in a bowl game?

I have a hard time with this. If you love football and you could get another 2 months of football, why wouldnt you?

 

[wpchief4]

thats what the rumor going around is, unfortunate i think

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Maybe the emotional grind of the year has done them in.....

 

[DKSchrute]

no offense but these are kids and an emotional grind is over in Iraq or some poor bastard whos company went under.

Just because you went 6-6 doesnt justify to me to shut down for the year when you could practice 15 more times and play another game.

I dont like it.

 

[leprechaun4life]

Players don't vote on a bowl until Friday when all the coaches get back from recruiting. So they haven't decided to go or not. That rumor is false

 

[DCirishfan]

no offense but these are kids and an emotional grind is over in Iraq or some poor bastard whos company went under.

Just because you went 6-6 doesnt justify to me to shut down for the year when you could practice 15 more times and play another game.

I dont like it.

Yep, what are they too sad to play another football game on national tv

 

[Steve]

They're not going to a bowl.

 

[HoosierMP]

If it's true that the players vote to not play in a bowl game, I would respect their decision.

In my humble opinion, there's more reasons to not play in a bowl then there are too play in one...

Clausen and Tate's stock have never been higher and I don't know if either of those 2 would want to risk injury...Notre Dame could run the risk of being embarassed by an inferior opponent...Notre Dame shouldn't be playing in gimmicky bowls; they should be playing in premiere bowl games...For as much as they might need or want the extra practice/playing time, have they really "earned" the right to play in a post-season game? And lastly, they might not want to play as this years team without CW as their coach (the whole "we started the season with him as our leader and we want to end it with him as our leader" type of thinking)...all-in-all it'd be too much risk and not enough reward coupled with the strong expectations and loyalty to what, and who, ND is and all about...Those would be my reasons why they would elect to not play and I'm guessing those would probably be theirs too.

As for reasons to play another game? I can't really think of many solid reasons other than: Because they love the game of football...Because ND fans want to see them play in a bowl game...Because they need the extra practice/playing time...Although all good reasons, and maybe for other schools those would all be good enough reasons to play in one more game, but this is Notre Dame...Expectations and standards are different here; and different in a good way...These players "get" what, and who, Notre Dame is...I would hate seeing ND in the GMAC bowl because I know that that isn't where ND belongs...and if that's the type of bowl they're being offered to play in, then I would hope they would turn it down because of all the reasons I mentioned above...

Again, just my opinion...but I think there are just too many varying reasons as to why they should not play in a low-end bowl game.

 

[IrishAddiction]

I have heard alot of them say they want to go to a bowl game in interviews, and I didnt think they had voted yet.

I do believe it was posted on here once, but i think its just another BS rumor. Until you people learn to provide links, all the rumors are just that, rumors.

 

[HoosierMP]

risk getting embarassed? wow. wtf. the only reason were not going bowling is because of the coaching change and thats it. clausen expressed that he really wanted to play in one, so its not about getting hurt. we already have lost to navy twice, syracuse and uconn in the last few years... what damage could be done by losing a bowl game? anyway it doesnt matter because we would kick the shit out of anyone they would put in the gmac bowl. we are a vey good team with a shit record.

Yes. Risk getting embarassed...AGAIN...Do you not realize that there is obviously a problem with the team?? That is why CW lost his job; CONSTANT embarassments...Sure he didn't "develop" the talent...That's only a small part of it...Do you realize how EMBARASSING it is to lose to Navy (twice), Syracuse, UConn, and every other team that we should be mauling? We ALL want ND back to where it once was...but it's EMBARASSING when you look at our schedule and how far we have fallen when we end up 6-6...We call the Big East a joke of a conference, but the past 2 years they've out-played us on the field...What more damage could be done you ask? You mean besides it further damaging our image with recruits and continuing to make us a laughing stock on ESPN and nationwide? Thanks, but No Thanks...I know ND is better than the GMAC bowl and NEVER does an ND team belong in such a bowl...if we are playing at that level, then we don't deserve to be playing in that game PERIOD...and I'm NOT so sure we could "kick the shit out of anyone" they put us with in a bowl...Newflash: Our defense is terrible...Have you not watched the games this past season??

Maybe the ones who are against playing in a low-end bowl game are actually the *true* ND fans, and also, perhaps, the more realistic ones.

Regardless of what the players decide, I will support them...I will understand if they want to play, but I will also understand if they chose not to play...There are more reasons (and they're stronger ones) to not play, then there are too play...We'll just have to wait and see what the players decide.

 

[loomis41973]

I don't think the players have even voted on it yet.
By the way JS phrased it in his presser, it doesn't sound like its much of a possibility though

 

[RUDYRUDY]

I think they should go to a bowl and play. Just to win a game for Weis. I did like the guy but when you have one of the worst records in ND history in a 5 year span ...It's time to go.

 

[rogosIRISH77]

risk getting embarassed? wow. the only reason were not going bowling is because of the coaching change and thats it. clausen expressed that he really wanted to play in one, so its not about getting hurt. you guys are idiots talking about the risk of losing to an inferior team. we already have lost to navy twice, syracuse and uconn in the last few years... what damage could be done by losing a bowl game? anyway it doesnt matter because we would kick the shit out of anyone they would put in the gmac bowl. we are a vey good team with a shit record. if you dont believe that we can win then idk why you watch nd football, maybe you dont and are just a troll. nd should play in a bowl and embarrass the shit out of whoever they play. run up the score and pad stats, with the 2nd string. i am going to be pissed if i dont see clausen put on the nd jersey at least one more time. i despise you trolls that consider yourself fans, pathetic.

yes this is the cleaned up version of my original post. hope this meets regulations. and thanks to dkschrute and irishaddiction for the reputation, good to know that there are other people out there who think the same about this.

 

[Allocco 121975]

There was no thought of embarassment in playing in the Hawaii Bowl last year.

Why would there be any this year?

The faithful will show up in droves.

 

[dskoo65]

no offense but these are kids and an emotional grind is over in Iraq or some poor bastard whos company went under.
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this needed to be said. the kids should appreciate another chance to play a GAME that they presumably love.

 

[tankdawgirish32]

I thought it was up to the AD if we go to a bowl game or not? The AD said he would take there vote into consideration but it was up to him

 

[BeatSC]

this needed to be said. the kids should appreciate another chance to play a GAME that they presumably love.

Wouldn't mind seeing how Ianello would do. Let JC call the plays.

 

[leprechaun4life]

ND apparently lost money when they went to the Hawaii Bowl last year bc travel expenses were so great so that is going to play a part in the decision of whether to go to a bowl game. The players have not voted yet and the decision will be made on Friday. Anyone saying that ND has voted yes or no is just spreading rumors

 

[tatoobaldman]

i think they should play in a bowl game no matter what bowl it is. we need to end the year on a high note and move on to bigger and better things.

EDITED BY NDinL.A.: You make a good point about you being a real fan (everyone can be a real fan and still have different opinions), but if you want to say something rude personally to hoosiernd, then send it in a PM. Thank you...

 

[BeatSC]

i think they should play in a bowl game no matter what bowl it is. we need to end the year on a high note and move on to bigger and better things.

Agree, the thought of sitting through 8 months on a 4 game losing streak is too much to bare. It was great to get the win last year on Xmas Eve. I would hope our D would be so pissed off that they would go all out. Would be good to get the right matchup.

 

[LeapinLeprechaun]

If the players vote no, then I would highly disappointed in them. When you get bullied in life you don't hide in a locker or hide in your room and hope the boogey man goes away. You go right out there and punch the boogey man in the face. You might win or you might lose, but you still TRY. I think this is very telling on the mentality of the Charlie Weis era, TO QUIT.

I know people are going to cite all the 4th quarter comebacks this year, but their record is 6-6. I frankly do not care about Jimmy or Golden's draft stock. They play for the team not themselves. To me if they don't play, THEY ARE SCARED, and I'm sick of sticking up for them against all the HATERS out there. I want a pack of LIONS, not a bunch of scaredy cats that are sitting around moping because they lost their coach. Life issues challenges DEAL with it.

 

[BeatSC]

If the players vote no, then I would highly disappointed in them. When you get bullied in life you don't hide in a locker or hide in your room and hope the boogey man goes away. You go right out there and punch the boogey man in the face. You might win or you might lose, but you still TRY. I think this is very telling on the mentality of the Charlie Weis era, TO QUIT.

I know people are going to cite all the 4th quarter comebacks this year, but their record is 6-6. I frankly do not care about Jimmy or Golden's draft stock. They play for the team not themselves. To me if they don't play, THEY ARE SCARED, and I'm sick of sticking up for them against all the HATERS out there. I want a pack of LIONS, not a bunch of scaredy cats that are sitting around moping because they lost their coach. Life issues challenges DEAL with it.

I don't see JC or GT bailing on this team for the bowl game. They have shown too much character so far to pull some chicken shit stunt like that. I would like to see some of the other WR's get in some time though.

 

[GDomer09]

If these players vote no to a bowl game it will make me want to question there passion and will definitly change my opinion about them. It will also change a lot of other opinons outside of Irish Nation about this football team and I don't like it one bit. It is a pu$$y move and a lack of respect for all those kids out there that want to or wanted to play in a bowl game and never got a chance.

 

[77domer]

If these players vote no to a bowl game it will make me want to question there passion and will definitly change my opinion about them. It will also change a lot of other opinons outside of Irish Nation about this football team and I don't like it one bit. It is a pu$$y move and a lack of respect for all those kids out there that want to or wanted to play in a bowl game and never got a chance.

It didn't look like there was enough passion from a lot of them at the start of the Pitt game or the end of the UConn and Stanford games.

Anyway, FWIW, an on-campus contact told me no bowl game about 2 hrs ago. May not be worth much since he's not in the AD, but he hasn't bs'd me before.

 

[LeapinLeprechaun]

If these players vote no to a bowl game it will make me want to question there passion and will definitly change my opinion about them. It will also change a lot of other opinons outside of Irish Nation about this football team and I don't like it one bit. It is a pu$$y move and a lack of respect for all those kids out there that want to or wanted to play in a bowl game and never got a chance.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't know why this subject is getting me so worked up. It just sucks I've been sticking up for this team my entire life and they would pull some pathetic move like that.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Just my opinion, but it seems to me that unless you are playing "for it all", there is no sense in parading yourself for any circus act. Extra practices at this point mean squat. If the guys want to improve, they can play 7 on 7 on the dorm's front lawn. The linemen can hit the weights and do some running on their own. Study for finals.

Seems to me that often the fans and parents want the season to last longer more than the athletes. Maybe the athletes want a well needed rest, especially since they have nothing left to "fight" for. Why risk injury and waste all that travel money?

I kinda think I would respect them more if they chose not to play. Lots of good points made on this thread about going, but I'm leaning towards turning down a bowl game.

 

[NDMontana]

Just my opinion, but it seems to me that unless you are playing "for it all", there is no sense in parading yourself for any circus act. Extra practices at this point mean squat. If the guys want to improve, they can play 7 on 7 on the dorm's front lawn. The linemen can hit the weights and do some running on their own. Study for finals.

Seems to me that often the fans and parents want the season to last longer more than the athletes. Maybe the athletes want a well needed rest, especially since they have nothing left to "fight" for. Why risk injury and waste all that travel money?

How about the distinct possibility--and think about the teams ND has lost to this year--that the team finishes the season 6-7 by losing to a MAC team. The last three years have seen the most losses in a three year span in school history, two losses to Navy, a loss to a lousy Syracuse team, etc.

It's time to turn the page on this season and this era.

 

[LeapinLeprechaun]

You fight for PRIDE, this is so telling about what they are made up of inside. Are you a fighter or are you soft. I am having trouble dealing with the fact these players are so soft mentally. Did Charlie Weis poison their minds. If this is the case we have to start from ground zero.

 

[BeatSC]

Seems to me that often the fans and parents want the season to last longer more than the athletes.

I kinda think I would respect them more if they chose not to play. Lots of good points made on this thread about going, but I'm leaning towards turning down a bowl game.

Still want to see them play and our win last year set an ealry season tone that Charlie couldn't sustain. I want to see the gold helmets win again before I wait another 8 months for what hopes to be a new beginning. I wonder what hokey slogan we'll have for next season. I got so sick of Charlie's new annual mantra that get's replayed every week on Inside ND Football with Jack Nolan.

Who can remember them all?