2025 Spring Practice Thread

Dale

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I haven’t altered my stance.

Carr is unquestionably the best quarterback on this team.

He will be an All-American.

I said he would start barring injury, or a very poor spring, and fall. That’s still the case.

It’s possible Angeli may get the nod for the first 1-3 games if Carr continues to hesitate on his progressions.

If you’re going to talk about me, quote me correctly.

What did I misquote? Everything I referenced is direct quotes from prior posts or today.
 

Dale

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You stated I changed my tune.

Since you read my posts on other boards, you should be aware I’ve stated for months that if Carr practices poorly, or becomes injured, it’s possible Angeli may start in the short-term.

Outside of that, you’re clearly implying that I’ve heavily altered my stance, and I haven’t.

I’ve watched practice in person multiple times, and right now, Carr is absolutely struggling to make it through his progressions as quickly as he should be doing. If that continues, that’s a problem.

So you maintain Carr will be QB1, and it won’t be close? Got it. Good to hear

Nice recruitin run.
 

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You, and I both know you’re intentionally misreading what I said, and also trying to discredit me.

You’ve had a problem with me since the moment I came to this site, and you’ve directly stated to me you’re skeptical of me.

I hadn’t been on this site in weeks, yet you decided to bring my handle up randomly, and do so in a manner meant to discredit me.

If Carr remains healthy, and remedies his hesitation on progressions, no, I don’t believe it’ll be close in fall camp.

Yes, recruiting is picking up nicely. Currently, Dunham is a silent commit. Osborne is ND’s as of today. Etc, etc. There should be 5-6 more commitments within the next 4-6 weeks.

Take care.
You’re like the ND message board version of Thanos. Idk whether to thank or curse you. The most unique arc in the history of this site.
 

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ND is on a nice recruiting run. I’m not really interested in fighting with you on direct verbatim quotes. Was just a sign off we can agree on.
There was no reason to bring up Merck’s name to begin with other than to pump your chest. Everyone is posting their opinion and nobody is going to bat 1.000. Let’s leave it at that and move on.
 

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A somewhat likely doomsday scenario if Angeli wins it is that he plays well, but not great, and both Carr and Michey transfer after the season bc he's the likely starter in 2026 where he then again has a "solid" year but not good enough to win a natty.
 

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I haven’t altered my stance.

Carr is unquestionably the best quarterback on this team.

He will be an All-American.

I said he would start barring injury, or a very poor spring, and fall. That’s still the case.

It’s possible Angeli may get the nod for the first 1-3 games if Carr continues to hesitate on his progressions.

If you’re going to talk about me, quote me correctly.
Thanks for clarifying
 

Irish4life

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Link is below. Unlike some people, you can probably appreciate nuance. The exact quote is that he still maintains that Carr is the future but Angeli is playing well enough to make him the now. Meaning, Carr has the most long term talent but a 4th year player in Angeli is doing very well to keep himself in the conversation. Also praises Carr's arm talent. Poster had a bone to grind for whatever reason and can't let people be.

Thank you!
 

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@Merckxe525

Any word on if Wagner will play in the B&G game? Feels impossible to expect any takeaways from the game without some blocking up front

Does the Lambert injury tangibly change the position plans for anyone else like Knapp or Jagusah?

Tae Johnson, Talich or Stroman?

Spring portal adds revisited?

Everyone’s been sitting on questions, unleash them!
 

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A somewhat likely doomsday scenario if Angeli wins it is that he plays well, but not great, and both Carr and Michey transfer after the season bc he's the likely starter in 2026 where he then again has a "solid" year but not good enough to win a natty.

If Carr wasn’t Lloyd Carr’s grandson, I honestly don’t think anyone would care.
 

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A somewhat likely doomsday scenario if Angeli wins it is that he plays well, but not great, and both Carr and Michey transfer after the season bc he's the likely starter in 2026 where he then again has a "solid" year but not good enough to win a natty.
So was last season a “doomsday scenario”?We didn’t “win a natty”
 

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Wagner has been pitch-counted the entire spring. His volume has increased, but he's still being held back fairly often. If he he does play, it won't be more than a handful of series.

The majority of playing time during the spring game, will go to younger players.

ND would like to add another tight end. They may look for one additional secondary player. There a chance, though entirely dependent on potential transfers leaving, that they may look for a depth piece at QB, or along the lines. However, most feel the spring portal will be light on difference makers, and ND is in a position to be selective. Some people continue to mention Corleone as a player to look at again, but ND remains skeptical of his overall health.

Talich should at minimum, play rotationally.
Any chance with Mosley? Did staff reach out to Bailey?
 

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Just don’t think a kid with Angeli’s arm talent and athleticism limitations can win a title without a perfect roster around him.
Don’t disagree, but the last few championship QBs haven’t been spectacular. Howard, McCarthy, Bennett, jones
 

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ND did reach out to Bailey. He wanted assurances on how much he'd play, and NIL far above market rate.

In terms of Mosley, he wants to start wherever he ends up. I was told ND touched base with him, but a few other people I speak with have said ND hadn't. (This was when he first entered the portal) I believe ND's reservations with him are with regard to him wanting to start, and from ND's perspective, that's unlikely this year.
Agree makes sense we have tons of depth at DE and Vyper and chances are we bring in Bailey someone else jumps ship same with Mosley
 

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So was last season a “doomsday scenario”?We didn’t “win a natty”
We just had our best team since the early 90s with a roster that is only going to get better and its been 37 years since we won a title. Its the only thing I care about. I'd eat a 9-3 2025 with an inconsistent CJ if it positioned us better for 2026 and 2027 title run.
 

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Don’t disagree, but the last few championship QBs haven’t been spectacular. Howard, McCarthy, Bennett, jones
- OSU is going to have 15 guys drafted + has the top 2 players returning college football
- For however unimpressive JJ McCarthy was, he was a top 10 pick for a reason. Angeli just doesnt have those traits.
- UGA was a super team (half of their defense is currently starters for my Eagles)
- Bama was also a super team

Its just not realistic to expect Angeli to be able to carry ND's roster (even if it is improved from the 2024 iteration) to a title IMO.
 

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- OSU is going to have 15 guys drafted + has the top 2 players returning college football
- For however unimpressive JJ McCarthy was, he was a top 10 pick for a reason. Angeli just doesnt have those traits.
- UGA was a super team (half of their defense is currently starters for my Eagles)
- Bama was also a super team

Its just not realistic to expect Angeli to be able to carry ND's roster (even if it is improved from the 2024 iteration) to a title IMO.

It’s also shaping up to be a strong QB year in the sport. It’s unlikely you’ll be able to run the CFP without facing someone who will have first round hype this fall.
 

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It’s also shaping up to be a strong QB year in the sport. It’s unlikely you’ll be able to run the CFP without facing someone who will have first round hype this fall.
Is Mr. 3 INTs in a CFP semifinal still getting 1st round projections?
 

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It’s also shaping up to be a strong QB year in the sport. It’s unlikely you’ll be able to run the CFP without facing someone who will have first round hype this fall.

Tbf, ND faced that in the first game on the road down in college Station in Connor Weigmann. Whether it was legit or he just faced a buzz saw that is a Golden d/Mickens secondary is up for debate.
 

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Fuck it, I’m ready to snort a line of Steve Angeli QB1. He may not be the hero we were promised…but he’s the hero we need right now.
The more I consider this, the more I could envision Angeli starting the season, and winning a couple scratch and claw types to start the year. God forbid even an early loss.
Then Freeman an Co make the change to Carr, and he ignites the offense as well as the narrative around ND heading into the stretch playoff run..

Or maybe that was a dream.
 

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All the talk of the QB competition between Carr & Angeli what is this board going to do if Minchey surprises and gets the starting job?

Whoever is named the starter will have enough skilled and experienced players around them.
 

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Angeli starting means the QB coaching staff has utterly failed. When you have a QB with Carrs talent that even hurt, has been learning in the program and you are expecting MAC lv talent to start, your QB coaches suck. Let us hope that isnt the case.
 

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Some of what I'll talk about tomorrow when I get to work but I would give the nod to what I saw yesterday to minchey in all reality. I think his arm talent is just as good as any QB on the roster and it's been noted he's the best athlete of the bunch. He did a good job on a long 3rd down yesterday taking off when he had a wide open middle and getting a first down. I'll take the blame on his low point of the day. I just finished saying that I thought he had looked the best of all the QBs that day and right then he throws a bad INT on an rpo where he pulled it and threw a pick on a wide hitch to the numbers from the opposite hash. Obviously wasn't worth the risk considering the low reward.

Angeli was exactly what he's almost been.. Just fine nothing outstanding at all but nothing terrible. Low ceiling high floor exactly what he's always been.

Mercke is right 100%....CJ is very indecisive.. Holds on to the ball too long and just I'm unfortunately not sold as much as I wanted to be. Even the "TD" he threw to conclude the day was fake. Dude was sacked and the refs let the play continue when I'm real football or was a sack or best case a fade away pocket escape throw away..Last year he looked outstanding against the twos and yesterday IDK if it's more on his plate but he looks great warming up and the talent is there but I do worry about him not having the experience we need to win the early games.

I'll talk more tomorrow if we want and feel free to throw some questions out if there's anything. Not trying to be mercke 2.0 but I do like relaying what I saw to anybody curious.
 
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