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If I had to bet he's just using Oregon to get the most money from OU. So, I guess if that means it all comes down to money then maybe. But, I don't think he has any intention of not going to OU. He just needs another party to run up the price and ND doesn't play that game so he had to find...

I think the fact that they're choosing the other schools after being given every opportunity to come to ND, unlike with Kelly who didn't put for the effort to convince them, says otherwise. The point of the post is that if a recruit chooses his GF, money, or proximity to home over ND after...

I think the best course of action is to get the players on the team more deals. Or at least explain to the public/recruits/HS coaches/etc. what those deals are.

Respectfully, this seems a like a strawman here. You thought the most important position in this class was Vyper over QB, WR, or S? We signed zero S's last cycle. 1 WR. And, well, you see what our QB room looks like. I really think all we need is a slight upgrade, more consistency/less...

Agreed. There either has got to be something to these deals that we've yet to hear about. Simply because they haven't been around long enough. Or it's not even remotely sustainable.

At this point it's probably time to identify the guys that won't sign early and try to get them on campus for the team banquet.

I think there is something to be said for those young men having more success in the end at ND, anyways. I think we, as fans, get wrapped in stars and recruiting rankings. We need guys with 5 star production at ND. Those can be very different. And, the problem has been, we just haven't had...

Please refrain from making a similar post in the future, lol

Except I think we need even more. No S's or even an extra DB last cycle means that in order to get to 4 (2 deep over 2 cycles), we'd need 4 this cycle. Shuler and Minich make 2. I think Hillman ends up more of a hybrid player but even if he is a S, you're at 3. I'm not a fan of log jamming...

ND was used as leverage to get more money but I wouldn’t say this is “NIL” related. 5 years ago the same prospect would’ve used ND for leverage and done the same. This is no different, it’s just above board so Peyton gets a high five for sticking it to Freeman and Company.

Haha, fucking Driskell.

You can be pessimistic and still make salient points. So far the whole argument lacks a serious understanding of virtually everthing

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-football-Kyle-Hamilton-Rhoback-Deal-Partnership-Name-Image-Likeness-NIL-168008034/

Time to put down the keyboard. Nobody made that claim. Sleep it off.

Dude, give me a break. Have you even thought this through. The reason they had to wait 3 years is because there was no NIL until then.

Neither of us know the amount so I could just as easily speculate they were 100k payments. Point is, the claims that mission BBQ is our NIL aspiration is incredibly misguided.

Mission BBQ isn’t how Hamilton and Mayer made 7 figures off NIL. Heck, Chris Tyree and Braden Lenzy aren’t even the best players at their position groups and they have UA deals.

Where’s this coming from?

Maybe the best news is we could get clarity soon. Hopefully the de-commitment comes soon so maybe the staff can identify guys that won’t sign during the ESP

The risk of waiting is if we miss on Pratt we’re likely looking at someone far down the list at that point. I’m on team Pratt but I think it’s reasonable concern