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+17 when including our game.

I think they both likely lose, but i don't see the losing SEC team not getting in when they have them in prior to the game.

I don't see how they get both ND and Miami. The loses needed just aren't happening.

Welcome to the party.

Yup. Not because I want them to, not because I dont think we are better. But same record, right next to each other in the rankings, and they beat us. Hopefully oregon or oklahoma loses, but this year is just not giving us the breaks we need.

Miami should not be behind us after this week. Hopefully we both can get in.

The difference with Miami is they know how much they need to win by. So they won't be putting in the 2nd and 3rd stringers, which could end up hurting us.

Guess I'll stop complaining about OSU taking over ND Stadium, because Michigan stadium right now...ouch

Welp... Pitt is going to get boat raced

Us needing Pitt to win, means Miami will crush them. Lol

Texas with 3 top 10 wins, a win over a common opponent could make things nervous.

We might be fucked.

I remember when H2H didn't matter in '93, so fuck 'em.

How the heck does BYU have a tougher SOS than ND

Thanks, makes sense.

In a world where Miami is 9 and we are 10, we get left out regardless to make room for the ACC and G5 champ. *assuming Miami isn't the ACC champ since their odds of evening making the conference title game is very slim.

No it's very bad, because it's not accounting for the G5 and ACC champion (assuming the high probability Miami isn't in the ACCCG).

<insert Denzel exhaling gif>

I gave you two reasons and you still needed more apparently. Never had won a big 12 title is a great point I'll concede to. Byes don't greatly decrease your chances of winning a national title, but you should know this already.

I'm starting to think of a possibility that TT could throw the Big 12 championship game. 1) they may have comfortable that they are in regardless 2) working with the big 12 to get two teams in