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That commitment was prior to this year. I'm not convinced they are going to keep that commitment especially after they have to go to 9 conference games, and based on what teams were saying this year. And especially after witnessing Indiana get rid of all their non P4 (there isn't a P4 by the...

Fucking A Right... the correct course of action would have been to make their's a multi team assault (ND, Ok, & Alabama). But they only went after one...

But, hear me out... it's only 30mins for your boy to Ames.

I don't know why people keep saying this. How many times this year do teams in those conferences have to say they don't want hard non-cons any more?

OK? I think the original point stands that ND brings many fans over what most ACC usually gets. Which is all the numbers were showing.

I'm baffled why other fan bases even care if we play in an exhibition or not. I thought we were irrelevant.

No argument, i was just proving your comment with numbers. Also, I simply went with the attendance recorded by ESPN for each game. A lot of the duke games had less than 20k as the recorded number. Not sure if that's is tickets sold or butts in seats, but it was reported as attendance.

Because I'm bored, I did the attendance research for the ACC for the last 5 years for teams we played on the road: 2021 FSU: 57,073 avg; ND game 68,316... vs Miami was 71,917 VT: 57,579 avg: ND game 65,632... UNC was also a sell out Vir: 41,415 avg: ND game 48,584 2022 UNC: 47,420 avg; ND...

There are a few ND ticket type FB accounts I follow. Do not expect to 'make your money back' from what I've seen. But an easy way to get rid of tickets if you price them to sell, and you have a better chance of selling to ND fans.

Sorry, but this is bizzarro land. We're talking Clemson and FSU here.

LOL... as soon as someone asked you to simply clarify if you're talking out your ass or not? Dude

Wait... the HC gets a pass from being in public during all this?

Why aren't we getting anything from our HC yet?

Unless USC relocates, it'll be too much travel for them. Or so I've heard.

Do some America type shit and use FSU & Clemson as our proxies against the ACC.

Winning a title and never have to pay for a meal again at The Linebacker >>>> Millions and NFL fame Just my opinion.

You fight them with Fox and B1G

Permanently means forever... no reason to do business with a relation that won't heal... bounce!

So we're not getting 'fire and brimstone' then. No need to do a press conference if it's just going to be this message. We've heard it multiple times now. Is what it is.

This has me wondering... how much of FSU's collapse has to do with maybe the players didn't want to play and the coaches/admin made them. And now they've completely lost any semblance of culture in that locker room?