Coaching Contracts

[GoIrish2917]

Does anyone know how ND structures it coaching contracts? Do they try to have the football coaches under contract until after NSD?

I guess there could be 2 schools of thoughts...

From a fans perspective, it would be nice to know that coaches can not be poached from your school before NSD and try to take verballed recruits with them(decker) or have their leaving destroy 18 months of recruiting work(Cal's class before Tosh leaving)

From a recruits perspective, I think if they formed a bond with a coach and really believe in that coach, don't they have a right to know that the coach may leave within a week or two of them signing on NSD?

 

[BGIF]

Does anyone know how ND structures it coaching contracts? Do they try to have the football coaches under contract until after NSD?

I guess there could be 2 schools of thoughts...

From a fans perspective, it would be nice to know that coaches can not be poached from your school before NSD and try to take verballed recruits with them(decker) or have their leaving destroy 18 months of recruiting work(Cal's class before Tosh leaving)

From a recruits perspective, I think if they formed a bond with a coach and really believe in that coach, don't they have a right to know that the coach may leave within a week or two of them signing on NSD?

ND coaches leaving early hasn't been a problem. To the contrary since Holtz, head coaches haven't left soon enough. Had ND had to retain Willingham past another Signing Day, ND would be in Division III.

Head coaches generally get multi-year contracts while assistants are usually year to year. What's the point of keeping a coach on staff to recruit for you when he's leaving a day, a week, or a month after NSD? If he's a lame duck, whether do to you severing him or because he gave notice, he's still a lame duck. He's unhappy and your unhappy. And now you have to go sit in a recruit's home and tell the parents you'll both look out for their son when you both know he's leaving.

As for as forming a bond, Schiano had a bond with his players, Franchione, Meyer, etc, etc. What did that do for those kids. Carroll had a bond, Kiffin has a bond ... Saban and Spurrier drop kids off scholarship so they can make room for somebody better.

The scholarship agreement is between the student athlete and the school not the coach. Most kids signing with ND come for the school first. If Tressel was still head coach at OSU, Decker would sign with ND tomorrow.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

ND coaches leaving early hasn't been a problem. To the contrary since Holtz, head coaches haven't left soon enough. Had ND had to retain Willingham past another Signing Day, ND would be in Division III.

Head coaches generally get multi-year contracts while assistants are usually year to year. What's the point of keeping a coach on staff to recruit for you when he's leaving a day, a week, or a month after NSD? If he's a lame duck, whether do to you severing him or because he gave notice, he's still a lame duck. He's unhappy and your unhappy. And now you have to go sit in a recruit's home and tell the parents you'll both look out for their son when you both know he's leaving.

As for as forming a bond, Schiano had a bond with his players, Franchione, Meyer, etc, etc. What did that do for those kids. Carroll had a bond, Kiffin has a bond ... Saban and Spurrier drop kids off scholarship so they can make room for somebody better.

The scholarship agreement is between the student athlete and the school not the coach. Most kids signing with ND come for the school first. If Tressel was still head coach at OSU, Decker would sign with ND tomorrow.

All very true and completely agree

.......and when you as HC are visiting a recruit with the assistant that is leaving, and you go to get in the car and the assistant says "oops, I left my laptop in the house, brb" how comfortable do you feel as a coach that he is just getting his computer?

I guess if the assistant is going to coach the Baltimore Ravens (FOR EXAMPLE), as opposed to a competing college team, the HC might be tempted to tell or imply to the DL from Buford, Georgia (FOR EXAMPLE) that the assistant is staying, rather than be truthful (as it helps secure a recruit in the short term). If however, the assistant is going to a rival school, you want the recruit to know the coach is leaving right away, and you don't want the rival staff to get 2 for 1 recruiting visits (yours plus their own). I don't think Sun-tzu's concept of 'keeping your enemies closer' works with recruiting