[NCAAF] vBook: Kansas State vs Arkansas

[Mr. McGibblets]

*Bet vbucks*

AT&T COTTON BOWL

8:00 PM ET, January 6, 2012
Cowboys Stadium, ARLINGTON, TX
Coverage: Fox

Favorite: Arkansas -9.5
Over/Under: 64.5
Moneylines: Kansas State +270 Arkansas -330

Using ScoresAndOdds.com

Good Betting and Good Luck!

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Bump

 

[JadeBrecks]

hmm.... Which way will lose money faster?

 

[NYMIKE6]

It seems every dog covered but i think that changes tonight...

 

[JadeBrecks]

Holy crap! The game is on poor peoples tv!

 

[Veer option]

hahahaha

 

[me9rob]

I always liked Bill Snyder and K-state so i'll root for em, but I think Arkansas is gonna take it to em.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I bet on Arkansas to cover, but K-State is coached by Obi Wan Kenobi.

It could happen...

 

[palinurus]

I was never a fan of Snyder's. I think he built his rep from the years when the Big 12 was lousy and they played a soft OOC. Even this year, their "quality wins" were narrow ones over A&M and Texas, meh.....

 

[JadeBrecks]

I was going to bed. My wife was flipping through the channels and found this game. Guess I'll have to pour another glass and enjoy my last college game this year.

 

[palinurus]

I was going to bed. My wife was flipping through the channels and found this game. Guess I'll have to pour another glass and enjoy my last college game this year.

Are you (a) busy Monday night?, (b) boycotting Monday night, or (c) classifying Monday night as a pro game?

 

[palinurus]

Why couldn't we have gotten a head ref named "John O'Neill" last week for the Champs Bowl?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I was never a fan of Snyder's. I think he built his rep from the years when the Big 12 was lousy and they played a soft OOC. Even this year, their "quality wins" were narrow ones over A&M and Texas, meh.....

He does more with less than any coach in the country. Look at what happened at K-State when Snyder retired the first time.

Seriously...I'm a Kansas fan. I don't like his team, but he's unbelievable.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Arkansas is a lot more athletic than K-State. But, there are few teams more disciplined than Snyder's.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Are you (a) busy Monday night?, (b) boycotting Monday night, or (c) classifying Monday night as a pro game?

B+ poor mans tv+ monday nighty is a terrible night for football games

 

[palinurus]

He does more with less than any coach in the country. Look at what happened at K-State when Snyder retired the first time.

Seriously...I'm a Kansas fan. I don't like his team, but he's unbelievable.

Okay. I guess I just dislike teams and coaches who schedule and win against lousy OOC and usually lose to quality conference opponents and split with the mediocre conference teams, and then get a rep for going 8-3 but not beating anyone. I haven't studied their schedule but don't think they've beaten Oky in ages, and am pretty sure they lost to Mizzou the last number of times before this year (when the Tigers were pretty good). I'm sure he's better than Prince was, and he's a pretty good coach, but they are always overrated, imo. Well, we can both root against him tonight, anyway.

 

[palinurus]

I do have to correct myself -- K State did beat Baylor by one, so that's a quality win.

 

[JadeBrecks]

The over is dying fast

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I'm not really rooting tonight...just an interested observer. I have a lot of buddies who bleed purple. I've just seen what Snyder has done with 2 and 3 star guys over the past two years. His guys are always in the right place. When they get beat, it's because the other team is just more talented or athletic.

I can't deny that they overachieve.

 

[palinurus]

Yeah, though these guys can both score in a hurry. I wondered about the over because Arky has a pretty good D, I thought.

 

[palinurus]

I'm not really rooting tonight...just an interested observer. I have a lot of buddies who bleed purple. I've just seen what Snyder has done with 2 and 3 star guys over the past two years. His guys are always in the right place. When they get beat, it's because the other team is just more talented or athletic.

I can't deny that they overachieve.

I agree with this. He does a lot with guys that aren't that good.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

But....when they turn the ball over, they are toast.

 

[palinurus]

well, they are definitely hanging tough....but making way too many mistakes against a talented opponent.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

well, they are definitely hanging tough....but making way too many mistakes against a talented opponent.

A turnover and a special teams TD....K-State is in trouble.

 

[JadeBrecks]

+10 got to love it!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

K-State won't fold, but this could get ugly.

 

[palinurus]

K State is doing all the dumb things you don't expect -- dumb penalties, dropped passes, bad decisions on special teams.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Field goals leave k-state in this

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Field goals leave k-state in this

Not sure they can score 2 TDs though. AK looks tough on D.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Not really. They are playing russia roulette with the pass. One of these plays k-state will catch the ball for the first. They have open receivers. They just need to catch the ball.